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originally posted by: woogleuk
a reply to: mOjOm
I was thinking more from a science standpoint, not a religious one.
The word creation isn't specifically a religious one.....to create water you still need two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: woogleuk
a reply to: mOjOm
Exactly, so where did those first energies come from? How did space as we know it come to form?
There has to be something to create something right?
You don't have to have something to create something though. That's a creationist fallacy. If you already have something it doesn't need to create something because something is already there. No Creation needed. Only if you have Nothing would something need to create something.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
If there's truly "Nothing", where did the "something" come from that "needs to create something"? Shouldn't that read "Only if you have Nothing would something need to create something else"? Or "Only if you have Nothing in a specific place would something need to create something where there was nothing before"?
Perhaps there is no need for "dark matter" but merely better imaging systems so you can see beyond 14 billion years & realize that all you can see is not all there is.
originally posted by: aethertek
Perhaps if you moved beyond the homo-centric view of creation infinity would come easier to you.
Perhaps there is no need for "dark matter" but merely better imaging systems so you can see beyond 14 billion years & realize that all you can see is not all there is.
K~
in a Universe which has limits
Just a twist in the middle.
originally posted by: aethertek
Limits? Are you suggesting that the universe ends at some point?
Space isn't a Mobius Strip & even if it folded back over itself that would necessitate an inside & an outside.
So what would be outside?
K~
Well again I believe one major error that science makes is assuming that all they can see is all there is.