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originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Peeple
There are a lot of examples.. "God" is a good one. As a concept, most will either accept, reject, or be indifferent but none of those options will change what is presented. Even the most fervent athiest is unlikely to seek out answers on their own terms, instead only looking at how "God" as defined by authority figures. They will determine their rejection on the basis of what is presented, rather than what may, or may not be, outside of how the "believers" define it.
If you can control the concept that is accepted or rejected, you can also direct where people will go with it to a great degree of predictability. Its not a matter of absolute control, but steering in a general direction. This minimizes the risk of a novel idea jeapordizing profits and power, essentially.
It is my opinion that the opposite (encouraging novelty) would yield better results, even though it is at the cost of predictability and control. Those that profit the most from the current methods would lose influence, but gain direct improvements in other areas that would likely advance exponentially over time.
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Serdgiam
That's just symbolic of a worldview which is not only very simplistic, but also seems to assume there is one uniform "they" agreeing about all decisions through generations.
That's just not true. My whole life I was encouraged to be creative. Think outside the box. So even inside this "they" there are parties trying to get passed the old concepts. Or I and Reverbs and others wouldn't be here, or wouldn't be the same as we are.
originally posted by: Mousygretchen
a reply to: Reverbs
I let "the force flow thru me" for selfish purposes..i know its real. it has real tangible effects on my mind and body.
I wouldn't call it a "delusion".. it serves a purpose. my visions are not hallucinations..im not hallucinating.
I would say its good that you have your brother around. sounds like yin and yang. keeping you grounded. its good to have an anchor, lest you slip away into unkown parts of the sea.
I have my own anchor that I live with, if it weren't for them I might get lost hin there.
I just looked at the clock and it said 12:13 and was surprised cause I just looked at the clock and it was like 7:30.
its like ur attaching your spirit chord to the stream of conschiousness outlet.
anyway. I think delusions are just aftershocks of problems or trauma. the altered states of consciousness are like little whispers lessons trying to teach you something about yourself. dropping hints like an easter egg hunt.
originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: Anaana
Nice to know that someone else likes hearing bout da old times!!
Even I didn't know some of the facts. Nice that I could share with you.
When William Burroughs described his ayahuasca visions as an earth-shaking metaphysical experience, Schultes famously replied, "That's funny, Bill, all I saw was colors."