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Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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I don't know where you people stand on ancient aliens, I was watching quite a bit, now I got a few issues with all of that. In archeology we study religious places and then assume who the people living there were, except for a few abandoned cities.
It is proven by now, that except for wrong names sometimes, the places and Kings and events happened/existed, bible wise.
Did you know Noah like Jesus and Horus was a product of "birth without sex"?
Then the Piri Reis map and other strange stuff, like the coc aine mummies and the Peruvian elongated skulls with the northern European DNA...

Also did you know people describing the figures they meet during a NDE basically saw grey aliens? The blue faces with the big eyes on the pictures of the Scole Experiment.
And all of the above combined seems like disturbing evidence that humans had a lot more culture a lot earlier than we think.
And the biggest mistake of the AAT is to assume extraterrestrials. Because why would they show up after death and at a mystical/telepathic experiment? Maybe abductions are NDE while sleeping, horrible sleep apnea?
What I can't figure out is the hindi texts with their flying cities or Ezechiel. What do you think?




posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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Where are you cafeteers?
Weekend, weird talk at Baddogma's!
Or do you have suddenly a life?


Which is funny because I just thought about how it really were the quiet ones who allowed Hitler to happen.
In an afterthought of the previous post and as I was wondering about secret and semi-secret clubs and why it seems everyone denies their existence and how many members they really have.
Do you know the picture of Adolf and Alistair?

What if there is a true mystic secret from the time of the Templar?
Because what stuck with me the most from Giorgio Tsoukalos is the conclusion there seems to be a concerted effort to destroy the relicts of bc. Is that the real reason behind Arabic Spring? ...and Syria and ISIS destroying Palmyra etc?

Doesn't the fact those motherf*ers call themselves ISIS scream weird? Paradox. Paranormal foul play?



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 02:28 PM
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What I suggest is that magic is about calling upon archetypes, in a psychological sense, if you prefer you might say "possession", I prefer one aspect of the "soul", if you subscribe to that line of thought, or shadow people, all playing out in this weird woo, BT, synchronicity, all of that, following us in a different type of physical make-up (pure energy, quantum dark whatever) all the gangstalking, ghosts, really all of that, is the world we create for our beings, not we are simulated, our imagination is effecting these beings directly, because what we perceive as reality is like our dreams and feelings to them.
Siamnese twins.
If it were true and every positive has a negative, which seems to be true for all nine energies of the universe.
May I present to you: the tenth the mind.

True magic is calling for beings of the other world to manifest in this or that form of an archetype. Possession. Directed thought energy opens portals, the catch is: you don't know where.
Not like demons they're by far less powerful they have to work with suggestions, emphasising coincidences to make them feel significant, feelings in general to direct etc.

Imagine in your reality this alien endorses trump found here is real news

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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
Is that the real reason behind Arabic Spring? ...and Syria and ISIS destroying Palmyra etc?



Ancient artefact or perhaps too much lead in their pencils...


‘In 2006, per capita GDP data was available for the following countries which continued to use
lead additives in their vehicular fuels: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Egypt, Iraq,
Jordan, Kazakhstan, Macedonia, Morocco, Myanmar, Serbia, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan,
Uzbekistan and Yemen. Data was not available for North Korea, [Ed’s bolding] Palestine or
Western Sahara. In 2006, the IMF provided data about per capita GDP for 179 countries
throughout the world (International Monetary Fund 2011).



‘...it was possible to conclude with confidence that a relationship existed between economic
freedom values and the elimination or non-elimination of leaded additives from vehicular fuels. ..
the relationship between lower economic freedom values and a failure to eliminate lead from
vehicular fuels (evident in the frequency histogram of the two datasets) did not emerge by
chance.’


www.lead.org.au...


Lead poisoning in infancy, even at very low levels, impairs the development of those parts of the brain (the anterior cingulate cortex and prefrontal cortex) that regulate behaviour and mood. The effect is stronger in boys than in girls. Lead poisoning is associated with attention deficit disorder, impulsiveness, aggression and, according to one paper, psychopathy. Lead is so toxic that it is unsafe at any level.



There is only one remaining manufacturer of tetraethyl lead on earth. It's based in Ellesmere Port in Britain, and it's called Innospec. The product has long been banned from general sale in the UK, but the company admits on its website that it's still selling this poison to other countries. Innospec refuses to talk to me, but other reports claim that tetraethyl lead is being exported to Afghanistan, Algeria, Burma, Iraq, North Korea, Sierra Leone and Yemen, countries afflicted either by chaos or by governments who don't give a damn about their people.


www.theguardian.com...




posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Talking of Germany and Nazism gives perfect introduction to this...


In November 2011, more than a decade after the first murder, DVDs containing a curious recording were dropped off at the offices of several German newspapers. They featured a doctored episode of the 1960s cartoon series, the Pink Panther, which appeared to be a message from the killers. For the first few minutes, the Pink Panther strolls around a city, where he sees a poster calling on citizens to “Stand with your country” and “Stand with your people”. Accompanied by the jaunty chords of Henry Mancini’s theme song, the character bombs a grocery store – then the video cuts to news footage of a shop that had been similarly attacked in Cologne in 2001.

The Pink Panther lounges on his couch and watches television news clips about the so-called Dönermorde. The clips flickering on his cartoon television are of real news reports from the murder scenes, with gruesome photographs of the victims. The Pink Panther’s eyes glaze over with boredom at how long it takes the German public to realise who is behind them. With a huff of impatience, the narrator indicates a sign on the screen: the murders, the video suggests, are the work of a group calling itself the National Socialist Underground (NSU).


www.theguardian.com...

Folie a trois?

Either way, seems the German secret service has, through over-paying their informers, built up the Neo-Nazis movement over the last couple of decades to effective proportions, without making a single inroad into the chain of command...seems to be the jist of it...but also fascinating in terms of relationship dynamics and how important that validatory network is, however tight. I watched a documentary about Fred and Rose West the other night too. Same applies...





Aleister Crowley and his missus, also, springs to mind...obviously there's a spectrum.


edit on 17-12-2016 by Anaana because: correcting my # French paraphrasing

edit on 17-12-2016 by Anaana because: yet again correcting my # French paraphrasing because I still hadn't managed to get it right.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Sorry Peeps! Drinking beers and watching BPL. Showered and at the pub for barleywine.

My problems with AA (besides being a lush, LOL) is they try to prove one with evidence from another (perhaps the answer can be found two thousand miles away...)

I'm like, "choose one and stick with it"! I think that the answer has more to do with magic shrooms than AA. That is the real source of the woo. And religion too. It is found everywhere.

But it is a fun show to watch! Beats reality TV.

Anyway, my busy day of beer calls!




posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: AgneseBMarshall

In my mind live three spirits,
one resting after work is done,
one in the middle contains and directs
the third an eternally exploring child

In my heart rest two
playing me like a flute
the music of live so enchanting
when compassion is a virtue

These five give me my name
four are hidden in another realm
where I melt into the bigger ocean
where I dissolve into the flow

I am Astarte
I am Diana
I am Athene
I am Aphrodite

We are nine



A cat of 9 tales... Have you ever stuck your tongue on a 9 volt battery? Shocking or acidic?

Body, speech, and mind.

Child like in wonder becomes a sponge of poison without wringing it out.
Speech is silent unless a need is expressed, of course inquistiveness buzzes choas in the un-named attached to whatever matters not as that is their own mortal coil hanging themselves. A smile of the eyes translates countless inifities lost in the deep blue sea with one drop of distinction.

Mind? Hmm depends on which ends are puckering up.

When a 1000 arms hugs itself



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: Anaana

The man and the mummy... dreidel dreidel dreidel his wife spun as he molded the clay did he or I come from a dimension stuck in a 3rd, his or her cannbis wasn't as good as claimed but still kind as it was free... a lifesaver as it didn't cause a buzz and I had to drive so I managed to avoid the fuzz, the peach went in the pie and clouds were formed in some other sky.

Funny how these 4 doors never lead to anyone else's funeral. Senselessness? Bah humbug with a humdinger that Etta James died as a wedding Singer, sowing and sewing seeds and blankets as the bubbles continue to burst a pop was a soda and the effervescence depends on the altittude.

I once was a cat... and she walked a mile in those old shoes; as I called France for peace.




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:56 AM
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a reply to: Anaana

I've been called a "contrarian" in another thread I believe that is true. And I stared all your posts. But also I truly question everything. With that in mind:

Couldn't the lead exactly be what a dark arts club who thinks the georgia guidestones are a good idea would do?
Depopulation.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Anaana

Nazis are everywhere and attracts exactly the kind of people looking for self valuation, like the Arian story with hindi mysticism hints, Thule, Black Sun, etc. they love this stuff.
Nowadays it's not a Germans only thing.
Who says there are only altruistic, humanistic do-gooders forming groups with common interests?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

I dont like conglomerates of energy outside of one other... and male energy is so boring i could puke.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: Anaana

Just look at the lady in the tweet here that's a demon.
The little guy that got shot because of road rage. The woman that got kicked in the back while going down the stairs...
Wtf?
We have serious social and cultural issues. Globally.
We collectively lost our faith and trust. It's all just manipulation, lies, exploitation, suppression, egomaniacs, injustice,... If it were a concerted effort they couldn't have done a better job. People freak out and turn against eachother, there's so much hostility.
Is that maybe another victim of 9/11? Trust nobody.
That's true right? I mean "fake news" is just the peak of something that's already going on a while.
And I believe it is a consequence of Powells lie about the WMD in Iraq.

Fun side fact, did you know Saddam thought of himself as "reincarnation" of Nebukadnezar? And the stargate thing... CNN
What if it's really all connected?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

The thing is this is one of many possibilities. Right? Maybe it's KPB s plasma critters thing, but I still don't understand why he adds post singularity AI to that, because that sounds like a separate possible scenario.
Or indeed ET but wth could their interest in us be?
But I do admit that the van Allen belt is a pretty good explanation why they crashed a few times. Since we're talking UFO with crazy capabilities like right angle turns at high speeds, crazy acceleration without audible effects on the sound barrier, they'd need a hell of a stabilisation system if there are biological beings on board! I don't know, ET could be.
But the problem if they're guilty of everything they're accused of "seeding, harvesting" us in one way or another, maybe we're war clones?

Sorry I am rambling



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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I'm browsing for ideas what the other the "contact" might be.

Imagine an ancient chlorophyll based lifeform like ET (*Spielberg) would discover the earth. Like the last stop for many lightyears, plants grow much older so the time wouldn't matter as much, especially since they evolved to just cloning themselves in whatever number the "wealth of resources and situation" requires.
Just taking from the sunshine whatever quantum miracle particle it is that stimulates and nourishes them. And from time to time you have to fill the CO2 tanks.

That would be kind of a best case scenario for ET contact. Just fill your tanks guys!



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Anaana

I've been called a "contrarian" in another thread I believe that is true. And I stared all your posts. But also I truly question everything. With that in mind:

Couldn't the lead exactly be what a dark arts club who thinks the georgia guidestones are a good idea would do?
Depopulation.


I am all in favour of questioning everything but you have to make sure that you are paying attention to the answer and not just waiting to hear what you want to hear. For example...

a) What purpose would depopulation serve? And who would it serve?
b) Lead poisoning doesn't kill, well not immediately anyway. Exposure in infancy and childhood leads to developmental damage and the relationship between early exposure and violence is proven, but that violence, unless supplied with weapons as well, is not necessarily fatal. Lead, in short, is a poor way to depopulate...which, if one was the type of person who does question everything, is obvious given it's consistent use to deliver drinking water since at least Roman times.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Anaana

Nazis are everywhere and attracts exactly the kind of people looking for self valuation, like the Arian story with hindi mysticism hints, Thule, Black Sun, etc. they love this stuff.
Nowadays it's not a Germans only thing.
Who says there are only altruistic, humanistic do-gooders forming groups with common interests?


It was never just a German-thing. What interested me, in terms of the validation, was the age of initiation into the lifestyle, and how at that stage, the girl particular, was willing to swing either way. She just wanted action and excitement, politics was secondary.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

The French are best left out of peace negotiations, they have a tendency to turn coat...so a lot in common with a cat.






posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Anaana

It's a conspiracy.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Is it?




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: Anaana

That totally depends on how highly you think of the elites/gouvernments/banks. The few I know personally from a "good family" possible club heritage of some sorts, where rather smart, ambitious people.
Are they capable of more generational thinking? I say yes.

You want to go with "no", or go having a issue with "club heritage"? Surprise me.




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