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Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

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posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: Mousygretchen

Thanks lady, I was about to comment on your wrist a doodle there's a hardcore version that is actually an implant some body modifiers have done.

The body rejects foreign objects for a reason; there's a rule of thumb that went before dermal anchors that went "if it protrudes pierce it" as there's less chance of rejection. Those anchors don't look like they would ever heal very well as skin is apt to move around and anchored to the bone E.T. says ouch.
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posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness


Lol yeah,

just a warning. At what point do people wake up and realize how much technology they cant live without?


Have you ever asked, "when does it end?", I believe the answer is that it does not. I don't wanna let go of my humanity just yet. I like being in this body.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness



I've been curious about getting a brow piercing, not sure but maybe.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 02:15 AM
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Ok then...IM going to bed now, I never stay up this late.

If it were earlier id be happy to chat, its complicated.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: Mousygretchen

Least painful one than none even less so than ears... the conundrum is which one is the "gateway" piercing lol proving the theory is a myth just occurred there is no order to physical experience except head crowing and that last breath.

That's a good question about what's enough, and i think it is or should be individually determined... some laws prevent homesteading etc. I don't agree with that intrusion on private property rights... public would at first look like a Halloween parade but after awhile it would just become normalcy like school uniforms at the other societal extreme. It's public though and ethically and constitutionally it isn't our say... despite those objecting to what's "proper in their own hangup or belief to what that is.

I'm sort of torn between times periods and culture as far as what I like architecturally and design wise, I'm doing a sort of gypsy caravan post modern 1920-30's feel thing with my RV in the main part and bathroom... the electronic situation to that has been a what to do what to do the front or the drive it around part is going to the futuristic cheese of the 60's.

So it's a clash between both and the outside paint plan is to look modern and elegant but not overstated.

If I inherit the parents property already have from what I've been told though who knows... I'd be especially torn to the exterior designing facade and landscaping... because there's so many I like, from a chateau or villa with stone work and wood beams to Victorian and even traditional Asian temple styles which is the landscaping type I personally prefer for that as it is very serene.

That means drawing several mockups but that would be presumptive thinking and like a bird of prey hanging around dead bodies not yet dead... disrespectful.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
Anyone can be just as dumb as I am.


What is 'dumb' is relative to what is 'smart' in any given situation. Stick me in a room with a load of number crunching types and I am little more than an air-headed bimbo. Likewise, I am smart enough to know when it is time to call an electrician or a plumber. We all have different kinds of intelligences, some based upon skills, some on knowledge. Nurtured and mentored inclusively, we are all capable of excelling in bringing to the fore our own personal brand of brilliance, and in doing so contributing to the whole. Sadly, we seem to be too inclined to value the mediocre and mundane, success is based on the readiness to say 'yes' to the status quo and therefore the rewards of this society go to the ignorantly tame. But, if you don't value those types of rewards, it is easy to walk away and cut you own swathe.




posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 04:54 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

I haven't seen Shutter Island I am afraid, the spoiler doesn't matter should I watch it because I forget such things very easily and will only remember again when it gets to that point...should I get around to watch it...I have a huge pile of DVDs that I have to get through, at some point...

...but the lobotomy thing in general, I kind of get what you mean...may be. Like in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, when Jack gets his brain professionally mushed...in a way, you're relieved because ignorance has set him free from his struggle against the system...kind of. Not really. not for me anyway, I remember watching the film Frances when I was a kid. Jessica Lange playing Frances Farmer, who was lobotomised to control her 'wild' streak. Wild in those days meaning she was a woman who was politically outspoken, and believed in something other than marriage, home and 2.5 children. Scared the bejesus out of me. I spent most of my youth and into my twenties worried that I would end up strapped into jacket in a padded room. In retrospect, it might not have been such a bad idea, but the fear kept me keeping my thoughts to myself.

There is an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where she is presented with a choice. In one reality she is with her friends, fighting the good fight, living with her Mum, her Dad having fled the coop. In the other she is catatonic in a mental asylum, her parents still together and begging her to snap out of it and come back to them so that they can be a family again. Buffy chooses not what she wants; a family. She chooses where she is needed; her friends and lone mother under siege from vampires and the forces of evil, she can risk the former not being real, where everyone is 'safe' but she can't risk the latter.

The mind is capable of all kinds of 'magic' tricks. Crowley's vanity and Hitler's moldibility, are what made them such perfect puppets. That people want to believe in miracles is what makes puppets necessary, Hitler was a consequence of one set of people knowing that another, much larger set of people, will believe anything that they are told so long as it fits into their worldview. Telling people what they want to hear is not magic.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 05:06 AM
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originally posted by: Mousygretchen
just a warning. At what point do people wake up and realize how much technology they cant live without?


Under the current system, my base line is an automatic washing machine. And, probably, depending upon circumstances, a flush toilet and running water.

I think it is important to understand that technology will always emerge from human society, it is what we do, find ways to make survival 'easier' (I put the quotes in because the consequence of developing technology has been greater complexity which to an extent negates the 'ease'). How many of us could make a fire from scratch? Or to obtain potable water? Without those two technologies, even food is moot.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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Went digging a bit. Echelon as feeder for the Military AI both ATS threads and slightly creeping me out.
Ah reality, right? Take a pill, shut up.

2004! 11 years before Snowden. Moore's Law says holy hell that thing would be thousands of years ahead of us by now!


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posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Reverbs

I am curious about those threads you mention never saw them sounds like interesting reading like a psyops experiment... people wanting labels; yes Ima crystal so in so! it's cute someone wanting to be more special than they already are. But now that I am a crystal so and so opps I mean already was one just what exactly does this entail? lol


You sound sneaky what other sneaky things do you do trying to catch other people being sneaky? Sounds like a game of out sneak the sneaker.



I'm really not that sneaky just thoughtful..
You want some rope?
Here have some more..

LOL

and no not a psy ops experiment, just a psy op.

I havn't gotten into all of it, but it involved manipulating people's psychology to unbalance them..

I surmise it's a Russian plot to make homegrown terrorists in the US. or it could be FBI types making patsies.. either way, I know what it looks like now to create a psychopath/schizophrenia patient.

it's not exactly lost on me that right as I was posting on ATS about psychological operations, and posting Army handbooks on said psychological operations that I seemed to have entered one targeted at me. Lots of death threats.. The weird Russian accounts I was talking about earlier..

the thing is I let it happen.. It's not so much sneaky as it is "in too deep" the only way out was deeper in.

I'm still alive so...

Winning!




posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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Hi ya'll! We are getting slammed at work as budget money runs out at the end of the year. Not much time to even lurk.


Have thrown up a couple threads but those are long term projects so they can fend for themselves for a while.

 


a reply to: Peeple

Then check out this ATS thread on FPGA, which are 'field programmable gate arrays' which are a type of chip (the thread is about AI but the tech is what I find interesting). You choose to do what you want the chip to do, program it in, then it is that chip's only purpose. But lets say you need it to do something else in addition to what it is doing, you can add on top of it or even erase the thing and start over in a more stream lined manner.

And these things are only getting into people's grubby hands now. Imagine what they were doing with these 20 years ago!

How's that for some serious heebie geebies?!



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 06:51 PM
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As we move beyond the pale...

Just remember one thing.

it all pales in comparison.






Oh and HELLO TEOT!!

Nice to see you my brother.


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posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Reverbs

Now that you mentioned it...




posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I'll give it a go
after returning from the sto
I'm at,
the devil you know.




posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Anaana

Since I was an unwanted child(failed abortion) and had to learn on my own dependent on monsters called parents that only looked out for themselves their wants and needs... all I have done is cut a swathe, trying to not be infected with their unresolved issues or keep myself.

Yes unwanted lobotomy that can be other peoples ideals and idologies vying for control of anyone other than themselves is why I continually meditate. What went from less than an hour to a constant took time to develop.

As mentally disturbed and opiated by their chosen belief out of fear for all of their transgressions but really not as they haven't changed since I have ever known them except in a facade expression to others. Their other side stays firmly hidden in the closet... the abuser side. Denying that side and not resolving it, put me in the system instead as self protection.

He's crazy not us... that's how it's been growing up and living with fundamentalists in a cult religion that has given them shelter in their extreme belief and cognitive dissonant bubble that allows such things and advise such things to keep continuing on and spreading that virus instead of seeing they are the one's that need the mental help. Extreme self denial and narcisim is what I have had to cope with other than mental, physical, sexual abuse as well as threats.

Of course, time is limited for them and I'm a patient fellow and not one prone to violent outburts etc. just have been trying to live and achieve normalcy in that loony bin called family tree my entire life as that toxic hook continually dragged me back round after round with every last possible avenue and sheme to do it... but the posion is and always was theirs not mine so what began well will end well having avoided infection to continue on such a legacy of insanity that gets a secret pass in public as normalcy as sociopaths are prone to operate.

I am always myself public and private there's no secrets nothing hidden nothing to be ashamed of... I have strugged 44 years and continue to struggle due to it and that's ok... the advantage is my youth and it is also my strength against these physical "captors" but fortunately not mental captors... as I have been over it for decades and as they drift on into the abyss not much different than they've created except not having any power to control anything? I won't bat an eye nor shed a tear, as they never were family as family goes.

So just tired and spent... 44 years is a long time and it won't be over until nature takes it's course and I am finally free from them despite already being free within myself.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 10:16 PM
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originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Reverbs

I am curious about those threads you mention never saw them sounds like interesting reading like a psyops experiment... people wanting labels; yes Ima crystal so in so! it's cute someone wanting to be more special than they already are. But now that I am a crystal so and so opps I mean already was one just what exactly does this entail? lol


You sound sneaky what other sneaky things do you do trying to catch other people being sneaky? Sounds like a game of out sneak the sneaker.



I'm really not that sneaky just thoughtful..
You want some rope?
Here have some more..

LOL

and no not a psy ops experiment, just a psy op.

I havn't gotten into all of it, but it involved manipulating people's psychology to unbalance them..

I surmise it's a Russian plot to make homegrown terrorists in the US. or it could be FBI types making patsies.. either way, I know what it looks like now to create a psychopath/schizophrenia patient.

it's not exactly lost on me that right as I was posting on ATS about psychological operations, and posting Army handbooks on said psychological operations that I seemed to have entered one targeted at me. Lots of death threats.. The weird Russian accounts I was talking about earlier..

the thing is I let it happen.. It's not so much sneaky as it is "in too deep" the only way out was deeper in.

I'm still alive so...

Winning!



I suppose it goes without saying that yes the experiement phase was over and it was time to move it into the public sector... same with the monarch nonsense... that ended in 1972 my birth year being someone that grew up with a high ranking military fellow at the helm which wikipedia says died two years ago but hasn't? Let's just say I'm no longer a victim and their crap can be deprogrammed but it takes extreme effort... their entire home is a monarch trap.

Once the programming is breaking or broken and the fractured self becomes whole... the triggers they lay out and psychological mind games they play just so pathetic it's pitiable but not really, imagine your captors being Mengele personalities how could you have empathy for such unfeeling and uncaring people?

Stockholm syndrome? Ha they can rot for all I care, worst people I've ever known in my entire life.
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posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 10:29 PM
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Well, the old ways were to be born out of the earth, but life had to care about you from smallest to largest... to endow immortality.

Nano? Well, it is thought to be the way around that so people can be the sociopathic robot overlords in an immortal form and be just as unfeeling and uncaring as they are in a mortal decaying form.

Lets just say I'm friends with both sides...




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posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 11:22 PM
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exactly..

well,

thanks for understanding.



posted on Nov, 3 2016 @ 11:49 PM
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It'll be interesting to see what design decisions you make for your RV
You could put stars on the ceiling.


I don't think psych manipulation would work on me. I'm too stubborn. If I know someone is trying to drive me crazy, I will make myself look like the image of normal. Psy-ops are ineffective in my experience.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: Reverbs
I surmise it's a Russian plot to make homegrown terrorists in the US. or it could be FBI types making patsies.. either way, I know what it looks like now to create a psychopath/schizophrenia patient.



Hmmm? Clarity. Are you banding psychopaths and schizophrenics together to be succinct or because you see a correlation between the two? The establishment, elites, whatever certainly feed from schizophrenia, exploit and profit from it on multiple layers, psychopaths play their part in that but have greater utilitarian applications...but it requires different processes, including natural (in-born) predispositions...wouldn't you say? Although, I do lean towards the paranoid schizophrenics sometimes emerging from collapsed psychopathy and narcissistic conditions.

I'd say that the vast majority of 'high art' is the product of more febrile minds which is then lifted by the media and whored out to the highest bidders who turn it into entertainment completely missing the underlying reality that it expresses. Often, with the really popular stuff, I can't tell whether they are trying to push my buttons, or if they have no real idea of the buttons actually existing. A little of both perhaps? But there is a reason Hollywood is mill rather than a well-spring.

Netflix is somewhat interesting, on another level but same jist, I am absolutely convinced that their production side is funded by Big Tobacco. Quite apart from most productions having at least one chain smoker, it seems almost compulsory, but, the whole Luke Cage thing is so revisionist, as is their attitude to African-Americans in general under the guise of 'raising up.' It comes across far more in playing to the lowest common denominator, on both sides of the race divide. No one is more responsible for the racial division in the US than Big Tobacco. No one treated slaves worse than Big Tobacco, or encouraged segregation, both racial and sexual, than Big Tobacco. They are making TV which programmes us to think differently and not see Golden Virginia when we see slaves depicted, just anonymous Southern American farmers mistreating some slaves for their personal profit.

So I don't know. Perhaps 'they're' trying to send us mad, or may be seeing what the 'normals' seem incapable of seeing is making us mad. I know that making psychopaths works for the establishment, someone has to do the wet work that the Western way requires, and I know that historically schizophrenics have been found to be more astute at seeing through the bull#...so, not sure whether they would want more...but they would want them to be ignored, so want them to be madder, or appear more irrational.






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