Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: Peeple

No I dont posture or model I simply sit here and watch the entire world change around me... and some times give it a poke.

a reply to: Peeple

Oooooh! "Reflection" is a grand idea! As is "echo". Those are good methaphors for many different and strange ideas. Also like the "confirmation bias" on people wanting to hear "demons" instead of the more prosaic "sounds like noise". "You stare long enough into the Abyss and the Abyss stare back" or the much funnier, "The menu is not the meal"! They say if you go looking for something scientifically you will find it. So go in with the expectation that there be demons and the trickster-invisible entities say, "wish granted" and the "gate" opens and all this negative energy begins to feed--as in possession. Very interesting line of thought.

Tyger, tyger, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What fearful hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry
Now didn't Blake have some paintings with the All Seeing Eye (the all seeing I?) in them? Hum...

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Ooooo Blake ... my fav!

I noticed earlier you mentioned Hobbs ...and I thought , huh, didn't know Thomas Hobbes said that?! Then I saw Calvin, and thought "didn't know Calvin had said that, either.. .I thought he was ...duller. Then I realized the source was the cartoon Calvin and Hobbs ... oh!

Anyway, that's what happens in my brain before coffee properly jump starts it...

Happy Solstice All (even the hardcore xtians)... smile!

a reply to: Baddogma

Ah yes, yet another human trait. To over complicate the simple. I like how you thought of Calvin the theologian! LOL. I think that Bill Watterson would love the small reaffirmation in choosing his character's names widely. You added the other dimension and dragged us kicking and screaming from Flatland.

Read in another thread (poet and didn't know it!) another member swimming in synchronicity. So it is not a single one off type event but is a nice group manic rush and more people are feeling it. And now we have our mascot, Tigger (or any tiger! Except maybe one Mr. Woods, imo). Power to the people I say!

[ETA: Writing this up we tripped a fire alarm and all had to evacuate the building! Told ya'll before about AK not having air conditioning so when ours died twice it tripped the fire alarm. AC is still down. Nice random 30 minute break. And it has not even reached the hot part of the day. Currently it is about 65 °F and we expected to climb another 10 degree by day's end. lol]

Let there be slack!

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Evolutionary dead ends without intervention of some sort it seems... when one is so biased to or in experience to everything else.

Remember Days of Future Past, broken Charles who lost too much and lost hope and lost his power? And Wolverine was sent back in time via consciousness to try to restore his power and sense of hope. The scene where broke Charles contacts his future self. Broken Charles said that humanity did this to them. The pineal gland calcifying pharmaceuticals, the religious conflicts etc and so on. It derails and short-circuits. Circle-spinning and rumination is the net result. Charles shooting heroin in a darkened bedroom in chronic solace.


It ain't pretty, but dead ends DO happen...

a reply to: corsair00

Oh I dunno that pineal can be a maggot a grain or rice or a crystal seed depending on ones level of self mastery. Easy to see which clearly is driving anothers vehicle when ones own eye has seen all 3 worlds of past present and future wrap back around... realizing the hungered, the dead, and the source in all ones past present and future emminations.

It's like being back stage at look a like contest youve no interest in participating in.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
Tyger, tyger, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What fearful hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry
Now didn't Blake have some paintings with the All Seeing Eye (the all seeing I?) in them? Hum...

On another tangent, I don't know whether you have read Red Dragon by Thomas Harris, but the killer, has a fixation with The Woman clothed in Sun (by Blake). The current painting that I am working on has a working title of The Man clothed in Moon. It also has a tiger and this is what links it to Blake and Thomas Harris. The painting is meant as an exploration of the masculine, it is nothing like The Garden of Many Delights by Bosch, but I was kind of using that, following a chat with Brotherman on "Postmodernist Feminism", as a framework. Which brings us back to Harris. In Red Dragon my favourite passage is when Dolarhyde arranges for his girlfriend, who is blind, to touch a tiger who has been put to sleep for an operation. The description of him watching her "cup" the tiger's testicles is brilliantly evocative. Great writing. My painting is all about testicles, esoterically.

a reply to: Anaana

(*looks one way, then looks the other*)

Spectacle, testicles, wallet, and watch!

(hehehe...)

a reply to: Anaana

Sounds an interesting menagery... do you see such visually, then develop it over time methodically using various sources to invoke the tone or mood visualised? Or is it compiled from abstract sources, then various themes chosen to fit? Or some other process... if you dont want to share your process I understand, and hope you share the finished piece with us.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

I couldn't help but substitute the tiger in Red Dragon with the kitten in your avatar... and how that would've taken the "oomph" outta that scene...

'blind girl pinching kitten testicles while muscled psycho looks on with twisted eroticism' made me smile.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: Peeple

Oooooh! "Reflection" is a grand idea! As is "echo". Those are good methaphors for many different and strange ideas. Also like the "confirmation bias" on people wanting to hear "demons" instead of the more prosaic "sounds like noise". "You stare long enough into the Abyss and the Abyss stare back" or the much funnier, "The menu is not the meal"! They say if you go looking for something scientifically you will find it. So go in with the expectation that there be demons and the trickster-invisible entities say, "wish granted" and the "gate" opens and all this negative energy begins to feed--as in possession. Very interesting line of thought.

Tyger, tyger, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What fearful hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry
Now didn't Blake have some paintings with the All Seeing Eye (the all seeing I?) in them? Hum...

# is getting way to serious.
Imagine you pass away and bamm, you're stuck in the future. The future starts any minute, it's inevitable.
And what do we build? Ants are looking forward to a bright future.
I think some may adapt, live underground in ant cities.

a reply to: Peeple

One of the Native American tribes, the First Nation type, have a myth that the Ant People came to the surface and rescued them from a cataclysm where 'fire rocks' fell from the sky then it became dark and cold. They lived with the ant people for a number of years and returned to a strange and changed surface.

Our bright future should be here in one or two years! I truly believe nuclear fusion will change the world in so many ways. One of the reasons I am here on ATS is because nobody here was following the W7-X experiment very closely. I joined to post their first hydrogen plasma in February! Then I noticed in order to have that thing running all day long, every day, then you are going to need some kind of storage of all that electricity. So up goes my Flow Battery thread. I also found that nobody was posting the Graphene Mega thread so I just started posting updates in that area of research. For me, it is kind of like chess, you look around, figure out the missing pieces, then tell anyone who will listen what is up.

As ants, we are building the future right now. I see it happening. I think with abundant energy we are going to hook up devices that eat what is considered waste products right now and create something useful. We will suck CO2 from the atmosphere and make graphene and carbon nanotubes and that will be the building material of our future!

To infinity... and beyond! Warp factor weird! Brains set on stun! ENGAGE!!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Oh here

For being productive and positive.
I like "brains set on stun" but I doubt we have 20 years.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Neal Stephonson's Diamond Age has a decent look into the near future as far as how fusion and nanotech will transform us.

The doomsayers/preppers have their heart in the right place as far as corruption of those in power, but ruling is so much easier when done benevolently, and soon we will have total mastery of material sciences to a point where there will be no point in hoarding resources as where there is matter, there will be resources for all...

no "doom and gloom" necessary, except say from an errant asteroid or meteorite storm (a la antpeople tale... someone in ancient DUMBs saving the tribe isn't so very outlandish, only a little so)... and I guess the other "doom porny" point might be the grey sludge effect of out of control nanotech or a natural pest control by momma Earth, OR some ethnic bio-weapon some Nazi releases.

But, really, the future is so fusion bright, I gotta wear shades, too!

Everyone check this out!

"We use laser pulses to simulate the electromagnetic field in a vacuum. Then we are able to observe how particle pairs are created by quantum fluctuations from the energy of this field. By looking at the ion's fluorescence, we see whether particles and antiparticles were created. We are able to modify the parameters of the quantum system, which allows us to observe and study the dynamic process of pair creation."

Phys.org, June 22, 2016 - Particle zoo in a quantum computer: First experimental quantum simulation of particle physics phenomena

How is that for recursion? They are using a quantum computer to simulate quantum effects! At least now we know what happened to the Berenstein Bears! They got zapped from existence by lasers in 2016! Can I go back in time and walk up to them and say, "Come with me if you want to live" (in a really bad Arny voice)?

Particle zoo? I wonder if they have any tigers...

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Hop in and you can go back. I will join you. First I set our time to the year 6972, pack your snowboard, we are first hitting the moon for a 7 mile snowboard expedition down crater 8 in moon powder.

Ever heard of Quantum Leap, no not the tv show. Hold on tight!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

What's worse is that the virtual particles being created in the quantum computer are part of the Universe which is often modeled as a gigantic quantum computer...and on top of that, the Universe may be a computer simulation, which could not properly scale unless the simulating computer was also a quantum computer. Add to that the fact that bits of quantum computing have been shown to occur in the brains of the observers, and you wind up having created a prequel to the movie Inception.

And given us simulated quantum headaches with at least 4 layers of recursion.

Kev

a reply to: Quantum12

Last one to the bottom of the crater is a rotten egg!

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

What's worse is that the virtual particles being created in the quantum computer are part of the Universe which is often modeled as a gigantic quantum computer...and on top of that, the Universe may be a computer simulation, which could not properly scale unless the simulating computer was also a quantum computer. Add to that the fact that bits of quantum computing have been shown to occur in the brains of the observers, and you wind up having created a prequel to the movie Inception.

And given us simulated quantum headaches with at least 4 layers of recursion.

Kev

So I guess you have to be smarter than the average...

...bear

(hehe)

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Heh, I peed a little (okay, a lot)

a reply to: Baddogma

It was simulated pee.

But don't tell me that it tastes like chicken.

That would be TMI even within a simulation.

Kev