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I had an interesting day dream a few weeks ago living in whomevers dream bubble this is... without ego not mine of course.

So I was just laying on my couch towards my left side looking at the door about midway up... and the entire world bounced lifting myself about an inch up all sound ceased and I landed back and things were exactly the same as before.

Interesting phenomina to observe... I suppose whomevers dream or though bubble I exist in had one of those falling dreams and I saw it bounce.

Such an interesting thing to observe having such a dream several times myself in the past. Since it all normalized? I suppose they woke up.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Cool! Usually I get the "feeling" that "something" has changed. Had the feeling of the ground dropping a few feet below where it was. And to answer those, no it is not a blood pressure thing. Just a moment when everything seems to shift.

Am I sensing an ME?! Don't know, just wondering.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Since the Buddha historically has said life is like a bubble or dream or phantasm when simply observed and Sartre if memory recall is correct? Who knows right? :p Said it was a dream within a dream. Awake in one having popped the other? What is quantum foam? Alex...

Thanks to Socrates... I wagered nothing but my heart.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: Anaana

Anaana, if it was a “black” triangle we are all doomed!

Or simply susceptible to certain types of light polarisation.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
I was going on to BD about simile and methaphors and said (a reconstruction but not by much): Besides myths and religon the best we can do is make up new words (neologisms). But that tends to add more ambiguity to the conversation instead of a clearer understanding. It becomes like Bugs Bunny, “abracapocus” and “pocuscadabra” and you never know what you’re gonna end up with!

This is a fundamental issue because we "live in language". No avoiding it.

originally posted by: Anaana

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: Anaana

Anaana, if it was a “black” triangle we are all doomed!

Or simply susceptible to certain types of light polarisation.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
I was going on to BD about simile and methaphors and said (a reconstruction but not by much): Besides myths and religon the best we can do is make up new words (neologisms). But that tends to add more ambiguity to the conversation instead of a clearer understanding. It becomes like Bugs Bunny, “abracapocus” and “pocuscadabra” and you never know what you’re gonna end up with!

This is a fundamental issue because we "live in language". No avoiding it.

Id say it ads a little comedy to what is otherwise a tradegy by people taking things a bit too seriously, somethings yes seriousness is required but why as some joker pointed out should be asked first but it situational and no one ever calls a situation anything but comedy in entertainment except seriousness waiting for something funny to happen... so riding the rails in and out of such theme parks eventually not only gets amusing but histerial no matter what happens... but then starving and slave children, no clean water, and environmental hogwash ruining such a beautiful future clinging to a script written 1000s of years ago as best friggin movie ever is rather absurd... and thats how I treat such notions.

People cant just be... even in the movies the extras just dont stand there unless asked too... they are acting naturally or being in ones nature... the worst actors when told to act likely do that very thing in real life... ok sociopaths walk, how should I walk? Ok sheep strut, Um whats a strut? Ok ignoranmous find fond soul... whats a soul? Oh $h!t here we go again cut!

The framework is here with an entire set to be anything and people are making it horrid, well I like porn movies, and I like church movies, and I like westerns pew pew pew, and I like war movies... but living them in real life and not as entertainment is why it sucks so bad.

People contstantly rehersing and rehashing in the wrong scripts for that scene called public. If someone wants to dance a jig with paper mache apricots to bah bah black sheep while having a go at a rubber horse mask wearing lady with a bedazzled trantula leg harness in the privacy of their own home who is to say nope... sorry not my kinda script unless they choose to share it? But then youre not the director idiot not my script guy youre simply a critic to someones creativity and well look at you... only one creator most high... well yes you must be high on what I dont care, but if you think you can try to control people like a god yourself while pretending its anyone but you reading a script no longer rolling film shoo fly shoo.

So yeah, hows other peoples type casted actors in their life doing? If they play off eachother well and encourage better roles I hope great... if its like some snuff film waiting to happen and both roles trying to guess or assume the other is the snuff or snuffies, I understand your pain. Just because my family in their make belief roles are horrible and expect me to stick to their predefined roles as a little branch of the same madness... doesnt mean I want to kill them and just because of that, "not gunna do it" (totally said that in a Dana Carvy doing a Bush impression) doesnt mean I wont try and show them better roles either... of these overly dramatic stick to my script serious as a heart attack characters. That are like 2D when im 3D and they deny me reality... when there is no such thing as 1 or 2 D as everything thanks some guy named Atom has depth... even though some people are too shallow and stagnant to want to wade in such nonsense.

and scene... good rant? was it believible? Cause some times this situation isnt... whew family! Thats excited for their woo cause hey chose something all yours and exasperated due to their woo at the same time cause that woo isnt what you want and they get pissed about it.

Im smiling and I dont know if thats eccentricity, madness, hysterics, the absurdity of it all and well im not taking it seriously so heres to a lovely day in whoville or screwville now thats a set up for a soap opera... whos a screwing, maybe you wondering what im doing... screwing what up? peoples lives... I dont like that word... what screwing or life? Gotta do one to make another yah know... oh thats naughty... what Im just talking about construction... what kinda screwing were you thinking of? flummuxed? Yes indeed because cause both types make things... what things? wounds or children if not so protected...

The PSA here? Children are not wounds... so stop wounding them with all that screwing around.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

The quote of the day at my local coffee shop: I suppose if we couldn't laugh at things that don't make sense, we couldn't react to a lot in life - Hobbes

The response is even better. (Calvin, after a pause to consider what Hobbes just said): I can't tell if that's funny or really scary.

We should stop calling it quote of the day and call it confirmation bias of the day!

PS - The eejit I am picked up my baritone, strummed a song, and only then realized... it has P-90s on it!! D'oh!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Hey even if its just one string strung high and low its not monotone... just too loose or too tight til you tune it then choke it at various points to make something out of it... the other strings hanging out going yeah cant have a chorus without chords... which simply allows more to choke it at various points so it plays a decent tune worth listening too.

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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

You've rendered me quite confused.

Did I say something to offend? Or, perhaps that too is just a trick of the light.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I have all the Calvin and Hobbes anthologies, at random, pulled out The Days are Just Packed. Page 66 is the strip you refer to, to match BD's thread flag count.



And, if you read the whole strip, it gets all the more "absurdly" lovely.

Also, succumbed to the lure of the Oxfam bookshop at lunchtime and walked away with both volumes of The House of Rothschild by Naill Ferguson, for £3.99 a pop. I've been after them for ages, I borrowed them from the library once, but it ended up costing me twenty odd quid in fines so had decided it was cheaper to buy, until now though, the opportunity has not arisen.

Today must be a good book day!

a reply to: Anaana

It is summer Solstice so good finds!

Oh, it is also a strawberry moon (or, "full rose" or "honey" moon for the Europeans). Both haven't happened since 1967. So in some ways we are directly connected with our pasts. Even as it is being erased or "stained". ME and the me generation and the '60s... hum.

And "page 66", that is priceless! How could you ever make this stuff up?

a reply to: Anaana

I tend to do that a lot to people... my apologies not intentional. The only thing I twist on purpose is the tie on a bead bag.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Full moon tonight? I thought that happened Sunday... hmmm guess two nights of sitting meditation through it wont hurt, better get the coffee or tea ready. Still tired from last nights sit through... donated last nights merit of sitting to the whole world today, so I guess I'm accidentally ahead of the other full moon sitters... sounds like a nude meditation group now that I think about it more and ouch my sides giggling so much is quite the ab work out.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

doesnt mean I wont try and show them better roles either... of these overly dramatic stick to my script serious as a heart attack characters. That are like 2D when im 3D and they deny me reality... when there is no such thing as 1 or 2 D as everything thanks some guy named Atom has depth... even though some people are too shallow and stagnant to want to wade in such nonsense.

I don't know, personally I like to do my own thing based off how I am currently feeling. I live a pretty boring and simple life. I don't expect magical transformations ala Terence McKenna and shamanism any longer. I just work and listen to music and I don't really care about fulfilling anybody's fantastic ideas of roleplaying etc. I don't think it's healthy for people to try to "live THROUGH other people" necessarily. Because it is far too easy to become entirely dissatisfied and frustrated by their life not going according to how YOU would like it to. That's a weird power struggle - not healthy.


There's a lot of fish in the sea - many of which love to roleplay.... However, other roles that you wish for others would be interesting to read. LOL

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Are you a yoga person? international yoga day

"You cannot transform the world without changing the individual. The world is a larger manifestation of who we are."


a reply to: corsair00

No. The world has to change to fit my expectations. I am a game master nobody wants to play with. THAT is frustrating.

a reply to: Peeple


Define the game parameters and what is exactly you expect out of the players etc? Is this just a discordian hodge-podge of general insanity, or is there something more noble and specific that you want out of the game? Because if you don't even know WTF you want out of the game, the game itself is going to be frustrating.


So... do tell - what do you want, really? Out of life, out of games....

a reply to: corsair00

No, I was just trying to be funny. RPG and such.
I like unexpected twists, but weird.
Go for weird. The only thing which would be frustrating, would be if you don't play at all. But Leary was interesting. You're here, so you are already playing.
We here have a few nice neurons of the world's brain, most with a shadow and strong opinions and fresh ideas.
Unexpected, pretty cool.
Your contribution is welcome. That's why I invited you.

I want to find the one answer and a save and sound recipe how to access it without nasty critter abuse (from both sides). How else can you raise awareness to the fundamental interconnectedness of all things, if not by making it controllable, or at least containable and save to experience.
The one to end all religious wars, once and for all.
I will never achieve that, but I try.
Sorry if my bad attempt of humour did upset you.

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Anaana

I tend to do that a lot to people... my apologies not intentional. The only thing I twist on purpose is the tie on a bead bag.

It happens to me a lot too. If not totally ignored, I am invariably completely misunderstood and entirely misrepresented.

So, no worries, somewhat used to it, got me a thick hide.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

And "page 66", that is priceless! How could you ever make this stuff up?

I think that Beanie was right about the Tigers. They are the fairies.

I would also like to know, what is behind this EVP stuff? What's the story behind the story in this thread?

Is it that people want it to be demons? Is it their thoughts they have about themselves reflected? Is it a riddle at a gate?
Why did I never hear voices? One could say I tried hard.

a reply to: corsair00

congratulations on becoming shaman enough to not need the label... some eat the label over and oover again like cows for slaughter eating nothing but the same grass ruminating on it over and over so much so it evolved a four chambered stomach just to be able to digest that same sort of thing and yet still chews the cud... not working out so well with picky panda... maybe over time it could evolve 4 chambered stomachs as well since to does ruminate the bamboo in a similar fashion until it needs a different type of bamaboo.

Evolutionary dead ends without intervention of some sort it seems... when one is so biased to or in experience to everything else.

Still choice I suppose but its a separation of humanity and not part of it by those very labels in which to draw lines.

I think you focusing on your life that you enjoy and the parts of it you enjoy as some people call a bubble is just fine... whoever I do sincerely hope if life as its apt to do when one tries to keep such things from changing in a permanent state pops... you still maintain balance.

Thats the art of living in my opinion. No matter what arises it passes and the reaction or non reaction is always a choice in the body speech or mind in which it arises to such things not oneself that would remove that personal happiness.

Being lost in the forrest of who we are happens, lost in a clearing also happens... but always some road towards a future in the ever present arising formed in the past.