originally posted by: UniFinity
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
I discovered that the kundalini 'cult' that I was in and 5000 years of secret kundalini knowledge was a 'conspiracy' basically.
I didn't read whole thread yet, just last few pages and OP.
but I wander why did you state that this is a "conspiracy"? What do you think exactly regarding kundalini. I would like to hear it from you/shaman :
maybe later I will share some of my views on some subjects, but not now as it is getting late for me and I don't have the energy to write. But as a
spiritual guy who mingles with this stuff in depth I am very interested in this thread and all of yours opinions. From my knowledge I like the most
what Buddhism (mahamudra and mahayana) teaches but I am not affiliated with any religion and I am open to all opinions. Learning is the key and not
affiliations with some organizations or groups of people in my opinion...
And also so far you all are doing an amazing job at posting. Thanks all for sharing and please share some more!
I spent something like 25 years on the edge of the "cult" and something like "15 years" actively participating, including studying all the modern and
ancient texts on the subject. Researching the process. Being quizzed (HARD) by the head of the organization in the USA... groomed for more.. told that
I was expected to "help save the world" (never believe that kind of talk).
Had (as expected) many "out of control" episodes.. and many "good ones"; until finally, the "process broke through my skull plate sutures and
That last line there really creeps out the religious folks... but it's completely consistent with Hatha Kundalini lore accounts from ancient times.
You almost never hear about it in modern times.
I won't go into the conspiracy aspect in any detail in this post, but the 'reality' of what had happened had no connection to all the wonderful
stories about 'enlightenment'; in fact I was shattered by the loss of what I had considered "my soul".
All the old stories make it sound like it's YOU that suddenly "ascends" and "leaves the body" to go to some wonderful paradise of enlightened beings
which lecture the deities who are in awe of them (these are the old cultural stories of India).
What they neglect to tell you, is who YOU really ARE, and who becomes and does not become "Enlightened".
The whole thing is the most disillusioning thing imaginable.. it crushes flat all the theosophy and new age nonsense in two seconds flat. (which is
its purpose I'd imagine, at least in part).
I thought I was going to die.. to go from so "full" and "radiant" to so empty and discarded...
I had no teacher for had happened.. no written reference materials. Nothing.
I had to figure it out on my own what had happened, and whether it was a good or an evil thing.
It was neither actually.
I like to say that the very basis of "enlightenment" for the human host, is to learn the actual nature of the human being and their relationship to
the larger Universe around them.
But its rather like "Hitchhikers Guide and the "Total Perspective Vortex". Does one REALLY want to discover what the Universe thinks about them, and
their place in it.
People think that humans are the pinnacle of everything.. and that there is some secret get out of jail card that they can attain..
That's the "conspiracy" -- to cause humans to want to do this procedure.. or at least part of it.. I really don't know how many people are insane
enough to go "all the way". So I can't imagine that the "final stage" is common at all.. or necessary.. but for near-immortal beings across
near-infinite universes, I guess that once in a blue moon might be enough.
I'm not saying that's ALL humans are good for.. to birth a "divine child"... and maybe the human is "supposed to die afterwards" .. maybe i'm too mean
to die.. or maybe I wanted to "stay behind" and do service.
Hard to say with 100% certainty.
But I'm certain that this tale has never been told before.. not this openly.. that it would typically NEVER be told to anyone.
Or I'm terribly mistaken.
There you go.
5 years ago now..
And my background is in computer and nuclear technology.. every time i open my mouth about anything "unusual" I don't help my case for being a
self-professed skeptic of UFOs, Aliens and most facets of the so-called paranormal, which I still am..