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I’m a Christian first, American second

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posted on Jan, 25 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

You are right it is personal, and that personal belief that she admitted to means god is #1.

You are now just being purposefully obtuse.
It's OK if one does it but not the other.

You have no leg to stand on hense the ignore status.




posted on Jan, 25 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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Returning to the topic of the thread ...

As pointed out Cruz is a Dominionist.

He believes that God's laws are superior to American laws.

That is what makes him "dangerous" not his Christian faith.

Every President that has served (as well as 97% of the current Congress and Supreme Court) are Christian.

... but they do not officially put their religious beliefs above the laws of the United States.



posted on Jan, 25 2016 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Yep and if she had just said she was a Christian I wouldn't have posted anything.
The quote she used is the same doctrine cruze believes sorry you don't see it but it is true.



posted on Jan, 25 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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And back once again to the source in the OP ...



Rubio’s campaign answered Cruz.
“This is more evidence that Ted Cruz is willing to say and do anything if he thinks it’ll help him politically,” Rubio communications director Alex Conant said. “If he turned on the TV in Iowa or New Hampshire, he’d see the real alliance in this race is the Bush and Cruz super PACs attacking Marco.”

Read more: www.politico.com...


Now, I would argue that Mr. Rubio is doing his best to "out Christian" Mr. Cruz ... but I am saddened what both are doing as representatives of their Christian faith; they should be acting as brothers in Christ ... shouldn't they?



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: links234

would install a system aligned to a Theocracy but bankrolled by the Banksters.



From the Vatican to Saudi Arabia...."a system aligned to a Theocracy but bankrolled by the Banksters."
Is there any other kind?....Has history even shown us a non-bankster funded theocracy? Hell the Royal Family in SA is faithful to the church of OPEC and the holy river of $$$$, Islam is just a tool to manage the peasants.

Religion plus government is corrupt by definition. Insert any religion, same truth.
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posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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“I’m a Christian first, American second, conservative third and Republican fourth,” said Cruz, who is currently a distant second place, behind Trump, for the GOP nomination in several national polls. “I’ll tell ya, there are a whole lot of people in this country that feel exactly the same way.”



Being a Christian and being an American are not contradictory...as most of the population understands someone can be both without contradiction.

What disturbs me here is that he wanted to make sure that he ranked them in competition to one another..

Christian first? American second?...He is clearly selling theocracy.
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posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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Too many chiefs and not enough Indians! It is ridiculous to think that religion is the cure all to gain peace and love. Then as we llok back at history we have religious wars that are thousands of years old. Religion is the cause of war as well as the desire to have ultimate control. Everyone wants to be hearn but nobody will listen to the next. There is no compromise in the human mind. What America and such allies think is complete contrast to Saudi ideas ...and Chinese ...and Russia! Our government is too large and sometimes corrupt and overly abusive in power. Logic has left the building. We have a PR stuntman running beside a crazy, religious nut! There is no win. Lets speed up the Midnight Clock to Midnight and be done with the inevitable... the end of the world! Then peace will ensue as there will be no more humanity to fight themselves... and we can all meet this God.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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Yeah, it clearly looks like he is going for the evangelical vote. That much is certain. Someone's got to do it right? Even if they're completely full of it. And I get the feeling Cruz is a bit of a panderist.

That statement is in bad taste. The fact you proclaim your religious/personal beliefs come before the values of the country you're hoping to take charge of, is facepalm worthy. I don't care what your faith is, my president better say he's an American first compared to any other classification 100% of the time. No if, ands, buts, or periods.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: RumPirate


Yeah, it clearly looks like he is going for the evangelical vote.

He has admitted as much.


That much is certain. Someone's got to do it right? Even if they're completely full of it. And I get the feeling Cruz is a bit of a panderist.


Naahhh! You think?
/sarc


That statement is in bad taste.

Everything he says is in 'bad taste' (not only tacky, but leaves a bad taste in my mouth).....


The fact you proclaim your religious/personal beliefs come before the values of the country you're hoping to take charge of, is facepalm worthy.

Indeed. And I STILL want to know where "father" fits in.

As a parent, whose youngest is turning 25 in 8 days - there is NOTHING more important than being a parent.
But, I guess, for him, there is.




posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 06:49 PM
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As an outside observer, I think the fundamentalist Christian/Evangelical/Dominionist movement is possibly the single largest threat to the United States today. They've openly infiltrated every level of the political system to a level Scientology could only have dreamed of, pushing their theocratic agenda every inch of the way, to the point where it's a mainstream element of the Republican platform. Add to that unwavering dedication to "God's holy plan", millions of dollars in untouchable "charity" funding and megachurch tithes, and the inability of law enforcement to do anything about their activities, and you've got what amounts to a hostile takeover in progress of the US.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: ShadeWolf

I think the fundamentalist Christian/Evangelical/Dominionist movement is possibly the single largest threat to the United States today.


Yes.
I think so, too.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 07:39 PM
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Right, he's not Human first though, he is a "Christian".

Oh, because you know, the wonderful Christians aren't really "Human" first, they're "Christian" first and American second and being a Human is really not on the list.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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While I do understand that for any speech, there is "CONTEXT" which is the most important part of it.

Even so, in my opinion, anyone who bring in Religion into Politics should be kicked off the running team, like immediately.

You can and should practice any religious believes on your own, but don't bring religion into politics, it doesn't work that way.

I don't ever want a President that does something and say, "Oh, that's what any good Christian would do!" or something akin to "Because GOD etc. etc." No thank you....



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: ShadeWolf
As an outside observer, I think the fundamentalist Christian/Evangelical/Dominionist movement is possibly the single largest threat to the United States today. They've openly infiltrated every level of the political system to a level Scientology could only have dreamed of, pushing their theocratic agenda every inch of the way, to the point where it's a mainstream element of the Republican platform. Add to that unwavering dedication to "God's holy plan", millions of dollars in untouchable "charity" funding and megachurch tithes, and the inability of law enforcement to do anything about their activities, and you've got what amounts to a hostile takeover in progress of the US.


Oh brother, couldn't have said it better.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: links234

Interesting his family is not on the list?

He is obviously trying to get on the anti-establishment ride. I guess he is still going after his ASSpiration
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posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
This guy Cruz is a Christian?


Imagine Jesus trying to take basic health care from children and poor people.


I can totally see Jesus making rifle barrel bacon.



posted on Jan, 26 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
a reply to: links234


“I’m a Christian first, American second, conservative third and Republican fourth,”


Technically he's a Canadian first.


Well, technically he is still North American second.



posted on Jan, 30 2016 @ 04:48 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

It wasn't a long time ago you conservatives insisted we should vote the NAZI Bush clan to the Oval Office. Also, America's involvement in atrocities are not according to the left, but according to the truth. You're little comment said volumes of silly assumptions that seems to be the symptoms of a illness shared by most of you conservatives.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

It's easy for these people. After many years of studying friends, family and associates, the people who claim allegiance to the "higher power" often use their position on abortion to get sanctimonious. Yet, rarely say anything about CIA drug running or toppling a foreign govt. led by elected officials. Many feel no need to "fund" programs benefiting unwanted children nor show any interest in many areas of family values. They often claim otherwise yet divorce is at a all time high level. You are right, Kennedy was a President first and Catholic second. Of course his sex life was controversial and he caught a lot of heat for it, but I'm often witnessing many of his critics I know personally that are guilty of the same. It may be more of a problem with younger people who's life experiences are the result of raging hormones, but hypocrisy stains the atmosphere.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 11:20 AM
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Human being first, family second, Friends third, Myself and my spirituality fourth, Merica 5th. That's the way it should be.



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