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I’m a Christian first, American second

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posted on Jan, 23 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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Ted Cruz says that he's a Christian first, and American second.

Now, the Founding Fathers wanted complete separation of Church and State, which if Ted Cruz puts God's law above American law, he won't be able to fulfill.

With this statement, he may have just negated his eligibility to be President.




posted on Jan, 23 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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He claims to be a Christian first, but his actions are completely the reverse of what would be considered Christian.

If Ted Cruz were to take a look a his own policies, and his record in the Senate over the last four years, and compare them to the teachings of Jesus Christ, he'd realize that there isn't a single one that correlate.



posted on Jan, 23 2016 @ 03:50 PM
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Of course, its all cool to hate on the Cruz supporters..........if you can find any.


Wow. You mean, if you can find them here on ATS? Or "find them" in the Bible Belt? There are some. Probably more of them than there are Hillary supporters.

It will be Sanders, and I'm really, really glad, Tony, that you have opened your mind to other than wherever it was before.
AWESOME SAUCE!!!!!







posted on Jan, 23 2016 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Skid Mark
Or Utah



posted on Jan, 23 2016 @ 06:12 PM
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Christians are a huge part of the voting population, hes just kissing ass. No politicians are REALLY Christian. Bohemian grove? Cremation of care, Moloch. Not very Christian. Hillary and Bill are in a pagan coven. GWB skull and bones. Freemasonry. Christians will vote for anyone who says they are Christian. They pretty much do what they are told to do in life.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: links234

Its been my experience that conservative republicans are CAPITALISTS above everything else, Christianity definitely comes second to profit and money. They are Christians when it's convenient, then its their version of Christianity, and their Christianity is nowhere to be found when it comes for compassion for the poor, or the hungry, treating workers like human beings, or seeking peace instead of war. They use Christianity as a front to hoodwink the 23 percent of evangelicals who vote republican, and in effect repeatedly vote against their own interests. Their God is MONEY, not much to do with Christ. You got to kind of laugh when one of them claims to be a Christian and then praises Atlas Shrugged. You can't be both a Christian and a follower of Ayn Rand, whose beliefs are the OPPOSITE of Christianity.
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posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 08:14 AM
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An incredibly silly assessment on you're part. You vote for the less evil of the two. They claim they will change the corruption in Washington to tolerable levels yet they do the opposite. In fact, they are powerless once in office. They do not work for you nor are they accountable to you. Although there is stupidity among voters, to assume it's the fault of the public is asinine. The fact is America is governed by a shadow govt. of un-elected officials and psychopaths of the ruling elite. They decide who will be your candidates only after they are satisfied they will work within their influence. If the American was to really change things for the better they would "DEMAND" reforms in election policies. Do away with big money donations and limit lobbying practices. DEMAND full accounting of all public policies and force strict methods among the justice dept. to fully investigate and charge those guilty of crimes. Once convicted, hefty prison terms await and those guilty of treason be executed.

There are ways to bring the nation back to honorable conditions. However it requires a massive societal movement of people who are incensed with the status-quo. Wall St. and the CIA needs to be put on a leech and to do so requires change from the bottom up. Local communities, State and Federal entities should be expected to follow the leading policies set in stone hundreds of years ago and monitored by watch dog committees. Only then will this country be ran by the people for the people.

Until you understand we are not "full blown AIDS" but victims of criminals will things get back on the right track.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 08:21 AM
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I am an individual beliefs before I am an American.

Is this really an issue? I am confused.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: muse7
So this religious nutcase wants to transform the U.S. into the Christian version of Saudi Arabia.....

This guy is also 2nd in most Republican polls for President.

Trailing only to a fascist.



That does not follow. Christians believe that everything else in the world has to take a second seat to Christ and God. If not then according to Christ you will not be saved. But this in no way means he has to be for theocracy instead of secular government. It does mean that his Christian values will inform his decisions as well they should. just like anyone's values should be first and foremost on their minds when they decide their positions on issues. To suggest otherwise is to be valueless, without integrity, personal courage and conviction, or honor. When he decides whether to support abortion or not he will likely be influenced by his belief that a fetus has a human soul and therefore killing it is wrong. so what? if it was another person they too would evaluate where they stand on that issue based on their ethics and beliefs. like they would any other dilemma they face.

This is what you fear; but you create a strawman that that you label theocracy. if that is the case then every president that has ever been has claimed to be a Christian to my knowledge. Did they install a theocracy? The fact is no Christian president and by accounts that is all of them; has ever installed a theocracy just by virtue of making decisions informed by their belief system.

When a lib shouts "theocracy" it means they fear that decisions will be made based on Christian values but also that they aren't serious or if they are they are dangerously ignorant. Heaven forefend! Lol.


The problem is with right wing Christians, is that their "Christianity" is a bit selective. It goes missing when it comes to feeding the poor, compassion for the less fortunate, loving your neighbor, or turning the other cheek. They are Christian only when it offers a political advantage to them.
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posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: links234
Cruz: 'Washington establishment' backs Trump, has abandoned Rubio


“I’m a Christian first, American second, conservative third and Republican fourth,” said Cruz, who is currently a distant second place, behind Trump, for the GOP nomination in several national polls. “I’ll tell ya, there are a whole lot of people in this country that feel exactly the same way.”


So...if you haven't guessed, Ted Cruz has basically stated that his belief would take precedence over the law. If you want a theocracy, I think I know your candidate. Oh...but watch out for that scary Sharia stuff.


Yeah, it's so funny all of the Christians who say we are heading toward Shariah, yet the only people in America trying to either KEEP laws based on a single religion or implement laws for all of us based on a single religion are fundamentalist Christians.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 08:53 AM
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Not a great move IMO. After ranting about Muslims being Muslims first then Americans second, he goes and says this? Do as I say, not as I do.

Must be feeling the need to try anything. All the other Republicans better start positioning themselves for the VP slot.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 09:00 AM
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The problem is with right wing Christians, is that their "Christianity" is a bit selective. It goes missing when it comes to feeding the poor, compassion for the less fortunate, loving your neighbor, or turning the other cheek. They are Christian only when it offers a political advantage to them.


Demonstrably Untrue

abcnews.go.com...


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posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 10:31 AM
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More like businessman first and then second is whatever is going to bring money and status.... today that happens to be a Christian Conservative, tomorrow, who knows.....



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 10:45 AM
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I’m a Christian first, American second, conservative third and Republican fourth, - Cruz”


Ready....


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Sing along Folks!!!

Mel Brooks:The Inquisition Lyrics
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When Fundamentalist Conservative Republicans ..
Run The Staged Show of Business

The World is a Business !

Didn't work out much for the UK or Spain DID it ?

Might as Well place a whole Bunch Poles and Pyres in Washington D.C.

There a Lot of Burning to DO!!!

I can foresee Evangelistic Militant Jesus Camp's all around
our Beloved Nation! mind Warping to be good Holly Soldiers ,
and being a Politicization Tool... for the All Mighty TPTB ....



People Like Bill will be on the Pyre ...




posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
So this religious nutcase wants to transform the U.S. into the Christian version of Saudi Arabia.....

This guy is also 2nd in most Republican polls for President.

Trailing only to a fascist.



Meanwhile in the democratic race we have soon to be felon and a socialist leading the way. This is quite the election, isn't it!?



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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Wait wait wait, where does being an "american" rank on the liberals list? Keep in mind that america is unfair and responsible for so many atrocities worldwide, according to the left.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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I remember when JFK was dealing with controversy that he was basically too religious for the job of president, they were worried that the pope/church would be making decisions for him since he was catholic.

He went through great lengths to ease peoples fear that although he was catholic, he would be leading as president from being an american, not a catholic..aka, constitution and such.

How the hell has it gone from a flaw to a merit to be basically admitting you are lead first by what can arguably be considered an imaginary friend before the rules and law of the land? Even religious people should worry about this..(what if its not your specific religion after all..what if we elect our first muslim president and he says that..consider precedence)



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
I remember when JFK was dealing with controversy that he was basically too religious for the job of president, they were worried that the pope/church would be making decisions for him since he was catholic.

He went through great lengths to ease peoples fear that although he was catholic, he would be leading as president from being an american, not a catholic..aka, constitution and such.

How the hell has it gone from a flaw to a merit to be basically admitting you are lead first by what can arguably be considered an imaginary friend before the rules and law of the land? Even religious people should worry about this..(what if its not your specific religion after all..what if we elect our first muslim president and he says that..consider precedence)


America has always been skeptical of catholicism. I mean, many of the pilgrims left england because of the church of england. The catholic church has a way of taking over governments, it has since is beginning. No other church (except islam) has a history of doing this on many, many occasions. That's why there was fear of Kennedy.



posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: links234

Which Christian acts does Cruz act upon?

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"


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posted on Jan, 24 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: Punisher75

The overwhelming majority of the donations are to the local church. Some of which use a substantial fraction of the money for authentic charitable acts, and others are like a communal social club, a few others like a MLM.

I do know a couple who work hard, open their home to a dozens of people, once a week, some of whom cannot afford the great meals they prepare for the many. Truly Christian, and giving. Not looking for votes or approval.
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