Hillary & Bernie VS. A Republican Congress & 2/3 Majority Governorships!

originally posted by: Brotherman
I wonder if the way I feel about our government and our politics in not only America but globally is how roman citizens felt shortly before the world plunged into the dark ages?

More like how the Roman citizens felt just before the Republic fell into the Empire.

a reply to: xuenchen

Sour grapes? LOL. Yes, if your mentality is no more evolved than the elementary school playground, perhaps ... "we won, we won ... nyah nyah."

REDMAP (and the Republican Party that supports it) is in favor of undermining the Constitution of the United States (which says nothing about political parties, by the way) in favor of one set of political preferences.

REDMAP (and the Republican Party that supports it) is in favor of States being in the control of a political party (organized and ran by an elite political few) rather than in the hands of the People.

REDMAP (and the Republians, et. al. ) are in favor of local satraps and special interests over our traditional American Republic and the balance of power enshrined in the US Constution.

You're returning to ignore, Xuenchen.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

The Democrats are likely to win the Senate. It's 53-47 right now, with 16 Democrats and 18 Republicans up for election, all the Democrats need to do hold a majority is win 14 out of 34 seats which they can probably do.

It's unlikely they'll get the House, but that's because of the way districting is done and when Bernie wins (I have no doubt he will), I think people will naturally vote for some Republicans as a hedge against socialism.

When Bernie wins though, I promise you that it will be another 4 years of obstruction. The Republicans have decided that they're going to make sure absolutely nothing gets done and that isn't going to change until we get a super majority in one direction or the other, and considering the last two super majorities created our worst foreign policy disaster in the last 100 years with Iraq and then Obamacare... I don't think people will be doing that any time soon.

Edit: And on the subject of super majorities, such a thing isn't even possible for the Republicans. If they win every single Senate seat they'll have 63 seats and 67 are required. On the other hand, it is theoretically possible for the Democrats, they can in theory go all the way up to 71 seats though that's extremely unlikely to happen.

originally posted by: Aazadan
When Bernie wins though, I promise you that it will be another 4 years of obstruction. The Republicans have decided that they're going to make sure absolutely nothing gets done and that isn't going to change until we get a super majority in one direction or the other...

Ya know, I don't think the GOP is going to go for that. I think they will if Hillary wins. The GOP has been so sure of a Hillary win for years...even Hillary is running on an Obama third term. She's promising more obstruction from the opposition if she wins. If Bernie wins we'll probably get some opposition from the more conservative members on principal alone but I think the establishment is pretty sick of nothing getting done.

a reply to: links234

I don't think the establishment will have much say in the matter. People like Ted Cruz are pretty good at shutting everything down. The only way they'll be able to make some deals is if the TP wing loses a lot of power with the election.

a reply to: Aazadan

Makes me think Republicans will get 68 Senate seats.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Aazadan

Makes me think Republicans will get 68 Senate seats.

That's not possible, they currently hold 47 and can win a maximum of 16 more.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Aazadan

Makes me think Republicans will get 68 Senate seats.

originally posted by: Aazadan

That's not possible, they currently hold 47 and can win a maximum of 16 more.

common core math

Hitlery will be the next president:

- Husband was former president
- State of Secretary
- 1st female president

You have the 1st black president & now 1st woman president - and I'll go out on a limb and say afterwards 1st openly gay president.

originally posted by: SurrenderingIsBack

Hitlery will be the next president:

- Husband was former president
- State of Secretary
- 1st female president

You have the 1st black president & now 1st woman president - and I'll go out on a limb and say afterwards 1st openly gay president.

FABULOUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

originally posted by: xuenchen
common core math

Sorry, I'm a low information voter.

en.wikipedia.org...

I read going into the election not coming out. So it's 54 R to what is effectively 46 D. Republicans have 24 seats up for election to 10 for Democrats, which is fallout from 2010 when they had big wins (means there's a lot more to defend 6 years later). So Republicans can get to a maximum of 64 while Democrats can get to a maximum of 70. If they split and go 50/50 it will change the Senate to 47 R 53 D

a reply to: Aazadan

But this years slaughterhouse election might force Democrats to switch parties !!!

Watch for it.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: derfreebie
a reply to: links234

I'd respectfully refute only one of your statements, being that
the major urban areas are Democratic strongholds-- surrounded
most times with a red sea. Illinois and Texas are a couple of
examples that spring up, like Chicago/Cook Co. and Austin
respectively. The result I concede is the state's still blue.

Only issue I have is at the mid-terms, most of the blue voters
don't bother showing up for some reason... this next general
election could elicit a mighty big turnout all around.

When it comes to a battle of will and might, I think Trump voters are way more enthusiastic about him than the Bernie voters are about Bernie.

I think the 'show up' crowd will be huge for Republicans this time. HUGE

NOW you're talking. The turnout during our last mid terms were
anemic at best for the Democrats-- but even some old close friends
who will likely die blue dogs are worried about the father of the F-35.
The turnout, regrettably, may not reflect the popular vote. I DO be-
lieve Trump will get the GOP nod just from pure chutzpah.