Jan-22th-2016: Historic denunciation of Lenin by Putin, a century after the Bolshevik Revolution!

Dear Readers,

In Few occasions we can see lessons of History offered by political figures, when entire chapters of the course of Civlization are weighted and evaluated to arrive to important conclusions.

That is what today has occurred with the Public condemnation expressed by the Russian Leader Vladimir Putin against Lenin and the Bolshevik revolution respect of its responsibility in the unstability that Eastern Europe suffers today.

Pls Read:
www.pravdareport.com...


It is said that History is difficult to be corrected and that the most that can be done with it is to learn to never repeat again the same mistakes.
Today is definitively a Historic date for Russia and for the humanity in the evaluation of one of its most difficult episodes: the creation of the Soviet state with its political implications.

First time that a Russian head of State openly condemns the actions of Vladimir I. Ulianov, alias "Lenin", as a leader of a revolution that opened the door to bring political unstability, anarchy, arise of ultranationalism, crimes against religion, incredible amounts of violence and social disappointment not only for Russia but for millions of human beings in the whole Eastern Europe.

In very rare occasions somebody in position of leadership has the courage and the honesty to say what everybody know, but few dare to express openly.

Pls read:

sputniknews.com...

Vladimir Putin did correctly today to reprove Lenin role in History as potentially devastating for Russia, indeed the arrival of the Marxist state by force, not by democratic decision, literally deliver a time bomb that in the long run caused the disintegration of a community of nations that were linked harmoniously in a unique example of cooperation among really diverse cultures for about thousand years of common History.

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His body must be removed from the Red Square in respect to the millions that died brutally repressed by the communism. Lenin responsiblity can't be freed from the arrival of the terrible genocides committed by the Red army under Trotsky, the crimes against Humanity during the purges of Stalin, and all the tension that the world experiended during the cold war.

www.usatoday.com...

Lenin committed huge treason against his own nation by dealing with The German Empire in WWI a separate armistice in exchange for all the foreign aid that he got from it to impose the Soviet regime through a well planned coup d'etait. This political pact was definitive to allow him to end his exile in Switzerland to go to Russia to lead the Revolution against the Republic of Alexander Kerensky.

The Bolshevik revolution, analyzed in all its roots and implications, offer all the characteristics of one of the most machiavelian political conspiracies of History.

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Falll of Eagles: The Train decision

The Train: 1st part

The Train 2nd Part.

The secret life of Lenin

The thread is open for the discussion of this Historic reprobation of Vladmir I. Lenin in Russia, occurred at almost a centanary of the Bolshevik revolution. As always I encourage the replies of all the interested members, either in support or against these claims, but in the strict mutual respect and following the rules of decorum in the communication.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

This could be a "cleansing" effort to cover their own similar policies.

A common tactic is to always use scapegoats to hide your own guilt.

Just a wild thought.

Putin actually stated in one of his first addresses to the Russian people, that he would seek to restore the USSR, so I am somewhat surprised and a little sceptical of this statement.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978
As far as I can tell from the article, he is not criticising Lenin for establishing the U.S.S.R.
He is criticising Lenin and his friends for the campaign to spread the revolution to other countries, saying that the long-term reaction against that was responsible for the break-up of the Soviet Union itself.

a reply to: DISRAELI

So, he would still have supported the Revolution, just not the bloodshed and the expansion into neighbouring countries, which formed the USSR?

a reply to: Cobaltic1978
Yes, that's how I read the very brief report in the link.
He is quoted as saying "We did not need the international revolution", and I think the operative word is "international".
Remember that the U.S.S.R itself was not an expansion of territory. It was no larger than pre-revolutionary Russia (and had actually lost Finland, Poland, and the Baltic states).

a reply to: DISRAELI

He's probably referring to North Korea, they are not exactly the model communist regime.

I'm still sceptical though, I wonder how much blood he spilled whilst being in the employment of the KGB?

a reply to: Cobaltic1978
No, I'm not suggesting that he has any qualms about the bloodshed caused by the revolution. I'm sure he thinks it was necessary and remains necessary.
I think he is saying; The attempt to spread the revolution beyond Russia rebounded upon us, because the reaction against it not only broke up the Soviet empire in eastern Europe but went on to break up the Soviet Union itself.
That would actually be quite a plausible interpretation of the events of 1989-91.

His case is "We should have stuck to 'socialism in one country'".

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: DISRAELI

He's probably referring to North Korea, they are not exactly the model communist regime.

I'm still sceptical though, I wonder how much blood he spilled whilst being in the employment of the KGB?

He was in the KGB so what?

Anderson Cooper is CIA so is CNN admittedly.
double standard much?

originally posted by: awareness10

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: DISRAELI

He's probably referring to North Korea, they are not exactly the model communist regime.

I'm still sceptical though, I wonder how much blood he spilled whilst being in the employment of the KGB?

He was in the KGB so what?

Anderson Cooper is CIA so is CNN admittedly.
double standard much?

Yeah, but they're not mentioned in the article, so we weren't discussing them.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: awareness10

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: DISRAELI

He's probably referring to North Korea, they are not exactly the model communist regime.

I'm still sceptical though, I wonder how much blood he spilled whilst being in the employment of the KGB?

He was in the KGB so what?

Anderson Cooper is CIA so is CNN admittedly.
double standard much?

Yeah, but they're not mentioned in the article, so we weren't discussing them.

Um, you're the one that mentioned the KGB first not I.

a reply to: The angel of light

I really don't want to be a Putin fanboy but I just can't help myself. He's just so real. Thanks for posting.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Well, I think Vladimir Putin can be best described as a pragmatical leader. I don't see him really in the role of a Marxist or Communist, so it does not surprise me at all that he is turning his back to Lenin.

Putin is just pointing to the evident fact that the dissolution of the USSR left back a terrible empty space of Geopolitical power that has contributed dramatically to the instability of the world in our days.

The conflicts in between former Soviet republics are not bringing anything positive to the world, to the contrary are weakening a natural contention wall that existed to refrain the advance of the fundamentalist Islam to the north.

The only natural winner of a war in Ukraine is precisely ISIS, since they know very well that is distracting a lot of military resources that might be used against them otherwise.

The west is not gaining nothing really important of the Ukrainian crisis, in spite of all the interest that American and European Multinational companies have in the gas of that country. With a country in war for decades it is impossible to obtain benefit of those resources at all.

The only real solution for Ukraine is to be another neutral country in between Russia and the NATO, like it is Finland, Austria, or Switzerland.

With a world in course of explosion, due to the collision of nationalisms and fundamentalisms, it is madness to try to revive the cold war. The west must learn how to negotiate with Russia, it is open and constructive dialog what it is required to melt differences. Russia can't be treated in the same way than Iraq or Afghanistan, that nations with no influence at all in the world. Russia is nation that has been in its place of natural cultural moderating bridge between Far East, Europe and middle east for more than a 1000 years and believe me it is going to be there until end of times, because that role is essential to preserve the civilization.

Western Europeans have done nothing for Ukraine along all its History, the last time that Europeans entered in Ukrainian History was during the Nazi attack against the USSR, in other words was a horrendous series of massacres and devastation.

The USSR only lasted 70 years, it is true that it was a state artificially created, but Russia is a very different story, it has ten centuries of continuous unfolding and its multi-ethnic national character is well defined and strong. To think into divorce Ukraine from Russia is loss of time, they have been engaged since their corresponding birthdates.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness