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Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
This is the saddest and darkest chapters in our history, and continues to this day in how they are disparaged. For all the benefits bestowed upon the natives of this land, they have not been given their due. If it were not for their exemplary efforts in aiding the British, the Union Jack may not be flying in Canada, and I happen to love Britain's flag flying alongside our own.
Originally posted by rayzor11
the main problem in Canada is the absence of any alternative viewpoint or voice in our mainstream media....
we're all force-fed the same left wing drivel day after day by cocktail swinging, intellectual/elitist wanna-be's that have no concept of how anyone can possibly live outside the Beaches (Toronto for non-Ontarians)
the author of this thread shares alot of the same frustrations that the SILENT MAJORITY of Canadians are feeling coast to coast
unfortunately, to disagree with the "blue state" Beaches mentality makes all of us uneducated, redneck hicks
Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
If it were not for their exemplary efforts in aiding the British, the Union Jack may not be flying in Canada, and I happen to love Britain's flag flying alongside our own.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Elite liberals attack anyone who lives in the country and opposes them as ignorant fascist rednecks. The nut case right wingers call us freaks, perverts, moral degenerates.
In the army, one thing I learned, is that the US is not the same country wherever you go. I have learned one big divide is the Rocky Mountains. I have nothing in common with southerners, midwesterners, Northerners, ect. Yet it seems that all the political figures that run the show come from the old east. They impose their either left or right wing views on people 3000 miles away. They simply do not realize nor care that out here, things are VERY different, we have a different society out here. Out here, its funny that you will often find liberals and conservatives in the same camps: less govornment intervention from the feds.
Conservsatives out west tend to be alot more lax, being less religous, and even supporting things like abortion and such, and liberals tend to be relaxed towards things like gun control.
It seems the Canada is as guilty of free press supression as the US. Just the opposite of Bush tho, up there, many Canadian visitors have told me conservatives are silenced and neutered agressively, and liberal thought it crammed down their throats, without regard to the local "flavor."
Seems both countries have a lot of unhappy people who wish to leave their perspective unions and go out their own way.
This should be a clear message to the snotty liberals in Ottowa and the tight assed right wing nutcases in DC to wake the hell up and deal with such grievances.
I say go for it, seperation from the two unions seems like the smartest thing to do.
Originally posted by Otts
AlwaysLearning - Yep, I don't know how Ste.Croix island is called these days... and very good call on Champlain and Du Gua... I didn't know it was the Passaquomoddy tribe.
And yes, learning is very fun
Originally posted by Realist05
By all means, fracture the confederation and become a EU-like entity.
Question is, where does the fracturing stop? My relatives north of the Soo have nothing but contempt for "Torontarions" telling people in the Algoma region how they should live, from gun registration to, yes, French language printed on everything.
Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
How wide is that brush of yours? Such statements are nothing but typical stereotyping of a group of people which seem to get your goat. In other words rayzor, it is a motherhood statement, levied because you have the need to place blame on others for your obvious feelings of inferiority. You would have a better chance at making your statements seem warranted if only you would support same with a reasoned analysis as to what it is these ”trendy left-wing elitists” of the beaches have done to provoke you so into spewing your guile in their direction.
You are Kreskin now and can get into my mind and know what I think of America? When you attempt such statements like that with me know I am going to lob them right back at you, for what is worse rayzor, to hate another country or to hate your own, as you portray yourself?
I am well aware that some in the West feel frustration, this is a far cry from your earlier contention of “"blue state" Beaches mentality”” and your deliberate attempt at Americanizing this country called Canada by your myopic efforts at reducing our parties to colour code, and employing no less, a revision of the pallet. Your view of your west must also be seen through colour blind eyes, for the last time I checked, British Columbia was way out west represented in Ottawa by 22 conservatives and 14 of those metropolitan blues as you put it. Even Manitoba in the midst holds a 7-7 split. And how on earth can you suggest that small pockets rule when Ontario alone holds a higher population than all provinces to her west? So no, I do not see the similarity from any of your failed analogies, including that of the hypothetical with France, because as you can see, your little blue vs red stereotyping does not fit with this country which votes for riding representation in parliament and not the person chosen to represent that party.
You pinned that on yourself my friend, and set out to prove it over and over as you do with: "talk about "painting with a brush shy of a few bristles" lol...a new twist to "the uneducated, redneck masses"...now we have an inferiority complex, are uneducated about the history of Canada, and use false/irrelevant logic. Thanks for the update! Now you can put the blinders back on...." Obviously, had I been incorrect you would have told me to take the blinders off, n’est pas?
What are you having issues now with Americans? Please make up your mind as to whether I hate them, see them as evil or am one of them, for that very statement when put into perspective with your sweeping generalizations suggests you see them as evil.
Change it to any area that you wish, until you have actual facts to offer, you're doing nothing more than trying to paint a Picasso on a paint by numbers canvas.
Originally posted by rayzor11Motherhood? Damn - we've got a psych major in our midst LOL. I really struck a nerve with the whole beaches reference...how about we change it to another trendy left area that prides itself in setting the moral/cultural bar for the rest of Canada...lets say Niagara on the Lake...hopefully I can paint them with the same brush w/o somehow hurting your feelings.
If you do, it is certainly not Canada that you love, nor the U.S, for in your zeal to support your motherhood statements, you have done nothing but insult both countries.
I love my country and I do not have a hatred for the US..call me crazy...
What debate? I am still awaiting your stepping up to the podium with facts.
Anyway, back to our little debate...
Goodness boy, this country that I live in is called Canada, not the United states of America, and if you feel that my referring to America as being Americanized is condescending then you prove my point that you hold nothing but disdain for America. You live here supposedly, so comport accordingly, speak to Canada in Canadian and British terms, for that is what our political system is about, and if you don't understand it just say so. For it matters not about your little blobs of blue and red when it is evident that a riding votes for the MP that represents it best in Ottawa. And your weak point on colour scheme has already been blown to bits by just the mere mention of of the 22-14 and the 7-7 splits I provided, and you duck.
I am well aware that some in the West feel frustration, this is a far cry from your earlier contention of “"blue state" Beaches mentality”” and your deliberate attempt at Americanizing this country called Canada by your myopic efforts at reducing our parties to colour code, and employing no less, a revision of the pallet.
See...there's the anti-US condescending tone again...
Striving? Why I barely have to put any effort into it, you make it all too easy for me.
Funny - in your striving to prove your intellectual supremecy, you forgot to look up sarcasm in your handy thesaurus. Not sure the purpose of your posts other than to try to justify your elitist, pompous existence in some trivial way... I imagine your voice as a cross somewhere between Fraser and Thurston Howell the 3rd...and it sure makes em fun to read!
Who says there is such tranquility rayzor, and how confused are you really? Have you ever known any political system to not have any friction within it? Are you sure you are Canadian rayzor? Never a referendum? You have been babbling about and lambasting everything outside of your little conservative utopia then because you just happen to think that the Québécois just don't like you personally and want to separate from you and you alone? I strongly suggest to you that you acquaint yourself with; The Charter of Hudson's Bay; Royal proclamation 1763; the Quebec Act of 1774 and The Constutution Act, 1867. Your historical background is obviously lacking any perspective.
Bottom line - if there really is political/moral/cultural tranquility across Canada - why is there never a referendum held on ANY major issue? Let Canadian citizens voice their opinion!
Originally posted by BattleofBatoche
We are embarrassed of all the anti - american rhetoric coming out of The East.
This post wasn't for you Easterner's & French speakers.
The whole world knows about how the East & Central Canada is raping the west.
We are the most valuable