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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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OCCULTISM....the ancient Shaman male who took drugs ..changed his chemical mind imagery and took his mind into a review of holographic memory by use of plant matter....chemicals at times poisonous to his person. He was able to review spirit information that had been kept secreted from his new spirit.

He reviewed his spirit in origin atmospheric attacks and gained information about converting of matter by his own organic life cell interaction. He was present in the atmosphere as his angelic light self...shrank into a smaller version of his own higher self.

Combustion of the self demonstrates shrinkage of the presence of life occurs......the body becomes smaller as the water evaporates from the cells and then combusts by the oxygen. Why combustion of the self is a blue light, that causes no pain. Witnesses to combustion state this fact is true.

A brotherhood of our ancient occult brother....a level of spirit consciousness existed on Earth and as a brotherhood chose to change our life.

This is how we know that evil is owned by our brothers....a level of spiritual consciousness that affects ALL MALES on Earth, no matter what culture they live in.

The brotherhood of humanity left the tribal community of their family and decided as groups to form a new advice for self gain...self status...self power. Shamanic occultism and the building of civilization. This was why he gained information for levitating stone and to alter the gravitational forces on Planet Earth.

He incinerated our life and our higher selves found as this evidence inside of coal beds....along with his scientific implements.

When the Earth regained a new atmosphere millions of years later....our new spirit emerged out of the origin light again. Nature was mutated. Yet our brother, still persisted to do science. As his spirit consciousness evolved....each time his person regained his memory to do science....he attacked our life.

We were overtaken by our ancient brother's evil occult practices and enforced to live his life of slavery and brutality as he inherited what he considered were his personal riches....for he advised us that he valued glittering stones and shining stones and told us that they were valuable. He covered his body in gold and said that he was the higher Gods....and yet he never was.

For thousands of years of his indoctrinated occult practices our family and our innocent lives were subject to all of his own personal intents and if we did not heed to his occult teachings, he simply murdered us. And this is still his unholy practice today.

Science therefore became an indoctrinated self belief of our brother who advised us all how unintelligent we all were, whilst he was all powerful and all knowing and told us so. He spoke about his greatness and about his wisdom and how he knew everything...and we had to believe because he said so.

We were therefore indoctrinated by his occultism belief ourselves and were never allowed to be natural and spiritual.

He always found ways of dealing with his family if they usurped his occultist beliefs.

Science was simply another of his personal beliefs and ownerships.

When our spiritual advice advised him....his occult possessed self argued and ignored.....and he murdered us.

He has always maintained personal control of our spiritual life.....and his practice of indoctrination once again has our spiritual family arguing against his occult theories.

His new theory is cold fusion and he built a collider and his collider failed.

But our brother....possessed by his own egotism blames his theory and says his theory is wrong....yet his theory told him the theory was for cold fusion.

His own mind therefore demonstrated that there is no cold fusion....yet he still collides...he still expderiments and he is opening holes in the cooled magma stone of Earth.

He says that one day he will gain cold fusion.....and yet his occultist practice states....that transformation of a higher power is how he receives the transformed energy for his use to imply he is all knowing and all powerful.

Yet he has no power.

As he collides he witnesses the nuclear orbitals inside of Earth stone...being released and the spirits of Satan...the deceased burnt light are removed.

Satan's O angels, instead of God's angels sing in our atmosphere....as he releases them from their dead tombs.

Our occult brother says that he is a Satanist and said that his Illumination will occur. He waits to be illuminated from the burnt light of the dead.

He says that he wants to witness the beginning and he says that in the beginning there was the VOID.

The VOID says.....but once there was light....and it is now gone.

He watched as the Satanic spirits left Earth...and they went into out of space.

So he waits for the darkness.

Darkness does not come....he waits for the sky to turn red...but the red does not come.

He says he is waiting and what is he waiting for.....occult brother....what do you want to be returned to the Earth?

His science says he wants the cold of fusion to return to Earth.

But his science states fusion happens in a heated act....and the evolution of cold allows the heated act of change and fusion to occur.

Evolution allows him to be a scientist...but he waits for the cold.

We are a human life.....at the level of living...the cold of our organic life is ICE...snap freeze is our cold.

He is only a human...he is not the powers of creation and yet he believes he is Satan himself, for he told us he believed he was the fallen Angel.

But we tell him...brother...your human bones are in the Earth....you are not Satan, the stone.

But we tell him...brother.......your human life as an organic being lives in the atmosphere...you are not Satan...the falling angel.

What do you wait for brother....indoctrinated self?

The cold of fusion he states.

But fusion brother is evolution.....and burnt light brother cools and evolves matter...and matter evolves into a cooled fusion by being allowed to cool.

What do you wait for brother?

Cold he says.

But brother, the ICE on Earth is melting.....cold is not coming...cold is being removed.

I want cold he says...I want evolution he says....I want it now he says.

But brother, evolution of fusion takes millions of years to cool....it is not instant.

I want the returns our brother says....I want what I changed to return.

But brother.....what you changed was the stone of Earth...how can it return.

It should return he says...I factored it to return when I tried to change my organic spirit back into light....I thought about converting all things.

But brother....you were converted...you were incinerated.....you died.

I want the returns of cold he says.

But brother, you changed the cold of Earth........it floats in out of space brother.....you changed the face of earth and it was removed by gravitational forces.

I want the return of cold he says.

And so the stone floating in out of space returns....the cold, the oldest cold in the Universe...stone.

There never was the state for cold fusion to exist. Cold is an evolution, not a reaction.

Our brother, possessed by his singular reasoning, placed single strands of information together to form a theory that does not exist.

His theory is fake....he manifests fake spirits....he says that he is the next greatest spirit to our Father...an occultist.

He says that he can create...he says invention is creating....but invention is change...invention is converting...invention
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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:28 PM
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I really wish you would write more clearly.

And stick to a single topic at a time.

I feel you may have something reasonable to say, but you don't communicate it well.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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i'll have what he's having... drugs apparently



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: beenharmed

INVENTION.

The WORD OF GOD.....his own spiritual occult advice.

IN VENT ION.

To VENT = the action of escaping or passing out....passage, release.....a small hole or opening....a discharge..an emission, to give release.

ION = an electrically charged atom

Our brother, occultist, who created the naming of all things, the values of all things from his own egotistical mind/brain.

To INVENT....states that to act as if you are GOD...when you are not GOD, but a human occultist is to be a Satanist.

You reviewed all conditions and considered to alter the natural states by converting SATAN.

You consider SATAN to be the Creator...for you review the body of SATAN as processes of conversion/alchemy.

You consider GOD created the cell life of a human.

You say GOD is holy.....but you decided to change holiness by being Satanic.

You believe yourself a creator....but you are only by purpose an INVENTOR.

An INVENTOR by your own self review states that you take the natural ION from inside of the Earth stone and cause it to be released.

HUGE HOLES in Planet Earth demonstrate that you made the spirit of the dead inside the tombs of Earth stone...be released. These spirits are Satanic...the spirits of the dead.

The O satanic UFO fallen angel...arises from out of the dead stone tombs....it then sings in the atmosphere and converts life.

Life gets converted by the holding of the constant....the experiment of the Collider trying to force collisions in cold.

Cold is evolution.....cold evolved from millions of years of cooling radiation.

You hold the Satanic constant in the O atmosphere trying to remove the cooling by increase radiation and human life is attacked...you are trying to incinerate us all.

You say you wait for the cold fusion reaction to occur....the gases at the pole for instant snap freeze was the removal of natural inside Earth gases...milllions of years ago...the sky went black.

The meteor nearly hit Earth....as its gases melted...a gas not on Earth...the gases from the meteor snap froze the atmosphere.

This is how you had a memory about the sky going dark....for memory can only remember what happened before by holographic imagery allowing the memory to remember.

This happened before.

GOD....failing as a cold light sound of radiation in our atmosphere cannot fend off the Satanic evil O UFO spirits that you are releasing from the lower cold stone fusion of much older Earth stone.

You are only causing the rise of SATAN and the incineration of Earth.

These orbitals are much larger than the younger colder orbitals formed in a light cooler evolution...magma's fusion.

This is why huge holes are opening as much larger colder orbitals are being released...as the Earth heats its magma.

The Earth magma heats because crystal liquifies...and the fusion of stone lost inside of Earth's hollows.

Magma also then arises...and allows volcanoes to erupt at the same time that meteors approach Earth...for the 2 conditions are linked by circumstance.

OCCULTISM...SCIENCE....INVENTION......the destruction of Earth's own holy fuSION....SION



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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Let me just read this through, there's a lot to respond to, will edit.

Looks.... 'questionable' and inaccurate to say the least

EDIT:


originally posted by: beenharmed
This is how we know that evil is owned by our brothers....a level of spiritual consciousness that affects ALL MALES on Earth, no matter what culture they live in.


You are saying that Evil only exists in Males?


originally posted by: beenharmed
He incinerated our life and our higher selves found as this evidence inside of coal beds....along with his scientific implements.


What you've described thus far has nothing to do with Science.


originally posted by: beenharmed
When the Earth regained a new atmosphere millions of years later....our new spirit emerged out of the origin light again. Nature was mutated.


What?

Since Humans existed, the Earth has always had an atmosphere. Nor did Homo sapiens exist millions of years ago. Not only that, but the Earth has had at atmosphere for nearly 4.6 billions years. It didn't come and go, but it was made of different elements than it is now.


originally posted by: beenharmed
For thousands of years of his indoctrinated occult practices our family and our innocent lives were subject to all of his own personal intents and if we did not heed to his occult teachings, he simply murdered us. And this is still his unholy practice today.


Modern science has only existed for the past couple hundred years, not thousands. Before the advent of Modern science there was no Scientific method, so many of the practices done by earlier scientists would not be considered Scientific now


originally posted by: beenharmed
Science therefore became an indoctrinated self belief of our brother who advised us all how unintelligent we all were, whilst he was all powerful and all knowing and told us so. He spoke about his greatness and about his wisdom and how he knew everything...and we had to believe because he said so.


Science isn't a belief system, it's a method of study and evaluation of the natural world around us. No scientist would claim anything with absolute certainty because absolutes do not exist in Science. Scientific hypotheses and theories deal with likelihoods, not absolutes; although, those likelihoods can be extremely accurate, and we can test and confirm those conclusions.


originally posted by: beenharmed
Science was simply another of his personal beliefs and ownerships.


Except anyone can perform science. The scientific method requires that cross examination and objective reasoning be applied because subjective reasoning is inherently flawed by the level in which variables come in to play at an individualistic scale.


originally posted by: beenharmed
But his science states fusion happens in a heated act....and the evolution of cold allows the heated act of change and fusion to occur.


Temperature never had a state of "evolution"


originally posted by: beenharmed
He is only a human...he is not the powers of creation and yet he believes he is Satan himself, for he told us he believed he was the fallen Angel.


Why would a scientist believe he is satan? Scientists can be of any religion, or completely without religion. So long as a scientist is properly applying the scientific method, a scientist can have any personal beliefs they want.


Sorry, but virtually none of what you've claimed is at all factual.
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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: beenharmed

You really have no idea how evolution, science, the human body or dreams work.

All you are doing is rambling about dreams.

Some guy a long time ago had a smoke of some MJ and saw stuff. Then you had a dream about it. Sounds convincing.

Humans evolved over millions of years.

Science evolved over a long time from the discovery of fire to everything we have today.

Dreams are dreams. They're not real. Dreams are imagination.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147
Looks.... 'questionable' and inaccurate to say the least


Diggin' the new avatar, Ghost.

As to the OP and follow-up ... there's a LOT of accuracy in there too.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Ghost147
Looks.... 'questionable' and inaccurate to say the least


Diggin' the new avatar, Ghost.

As to the OP and follow-up ... there's a LOT of accuracy in there too.


Thanks!

May I ask what you found in the OP to be accurate?
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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: beenharmed

You really have no idea how evolution, science, the human body or dreams work.

All you are doing is rambling about dreams.

Some guy a long time ago had a smoke of some MJ and saw stuff. Then you had a dream about it. Sounds convincing.

Humans evolved over millions of years.

Science evolved over a long time from the discovery of fire to everything we have today.

Dreams are dreams. They're not real. Dreams are imagination.


Talking to your own occult scientific person.....you have no realization yourself.

You study single concepts as a theory....yet we own our own spirit as a instant manifested presence.

The reason you believe as an organic being in instant manifestation, is only because your own presence was instant.....nothing else is.

You lie to your own person...your own self.

You make reviews of information, and give a status...to invent a machine to follow an act of creating and then emulate it.

Dust in star systems already created nuclear fuel.....you gained the radio receipt of the imagery of how to convert.

This conversion process is not instantaneous....yet your machine allows it to be an instant process.

You lie to your own person about processes of evolution and gain of energy.

Don't advise me about what your own person has not considered...you are wrong as a male consciousness and you always were.

You were the spirit who considered to change your own presence even after the data....a higher spiritual self advised you from your considerations of your higher spirits that if you converted...your spirit would be changed/and become a lesser self.

You ignored the information and did it anyway...and you were converted.

You regained your converted status...when Earth healed/cooled from the attack you caused...and you still are as egotistical as ever.

You sought information for conversion....we never were harmed until you harmed us...you believe you are allowed to harm us...if this were not true, you would not consider the murder of your equal family.

Get real evil occultists.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: beenharmed

So now it's all my fault because I'm a male and know about science, evolution, the human body, dreams, astronomy and a whole list of other things?

Have you once considered it might be you that is wrong? Maybe those dreams of yours were just dreams and not your mystical holographic memory.

Try thinking about what you're typing so we can at the very least make some sense of it.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: beenharmed

INVENTION.

The WORD OF GOD.....his own spiritual occult advice.

IN VENT ION.

To VENT = the action of escaping or passing out....passage, release.....a small hole or opening....a discharge..an emission, to give release.

ION = an electrically charged atom


You do realize that the word "Invention" was not created in the English Language, but rather durived from Old French, and before that directly from Latin:

c.1400, "devised method of organization," from Old French invencion (13c.) and directly from Latin inventionem (nominative inventio) "faculty of invention; a finding, discovery," noun of action from past participle stem of invenire "devise, discover, find," from in- "in, on" (see in- (2)) + venire "to come" (see venue ).

You're also breaking the word apart incorrectly. it's not "ion" it's "tion". "-tion" is a suffix occurring in words of Latin origin, used to form abstract nouns from verbs or stems not identical with verbs, whether as expressing action ( revolution; commendation), or a state ( contrition; starvation), or associated meanings ( relation; temptation).


originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: beenharmed
To INVENT....states that to act as if you are GOD...when you are not GOD, but a human occultist is to be a Satanist.


No. Please read the correct history of the word "Invent" above.

All your following claims are based off of a False Premise



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: beenharmed
You study single concepts as a theory....yet we own our own spirit as a instant manifested presence.


Scientific Theories and the word "theory" are two dramatically different things.

The word theory, in the context of science, does not imply uncertainty. It means "a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena" (Barnhart 1948).


originally posted by: beenharmed
The reason you believe as an organic being in instant manifestation, is only because your own presence was instant.....nothing else is.


This makes no sense.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Ghost147
Looks.... 'questionable' and inaccurate to say the least


Diggin' the new avatar, Ghost.

As to the OP and follow-up ... there's a LOT of accuracy in there too.


Thanks!

May I ask what you found in the OP to be accurate?


I could type for days and no one would 'get it' ... unless they've had some measure of first-hand experience.

This:

A brotherhood of our ancient occult brother....a level of spirit consciousness existed on Earth and as a brotherhood chose to change our life.

This is how we know that evil is owned by our brothers....a level of spiritual consciousness that affects ALL MALES on Earth, no matter what culture they live in.


Damn near blew me away.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147
Let me just read this through, there's a lot to respond to, will edit.

Looks.... 'questionable' and inaccurate to say the least

EDIT:


originally posted by: beenharmed
This is how we know that evil is owned by our brothers....a level of spiritual consciousness that affects ALL MALES on Earth, no matter what culture they live in.


You are saying that Evil only exists in Males?


originally posted by: beenharmed
He incinerated our life and our higher selves found as this evidence inside of coal beds....along with his scientific implements.


What you've described thus far has nothing to do with Science.


originally posted by: beenharmed
When the Earth regained a new atmosphere millions of years later....our new spirit emerged out of the origin light again. Nature was mutated.


What?

Since Humans existed, the Earth has always had an atmosphere. Nor did Homo sapiens exist millions of years ago. Not only that, but the Earth has had at atmosphere for nearly 4.6 billions years. It didn't come and go, but it was made of different elements than it is now.


originally posted by: beenharmed
For thousands of years of his indoctrinated occult practices our family and our innocent lives were subject to all of his own personal intents and if we did not heed to his occult teachings, he simply murdered us. And this is still his unholy practice today.


Modern science has only existed for the past couple hundred years, not thousands. Before the advent of Modern science there was no Scientific method, so many of the practices done by earlier scientists would not be considered Scientific now


originally posted by: beenharmed
Science therefore became an indoctrinated self belief of our brother who advised us all how unintelligent we all were, whilst he was all powerful and all knowing and told us so. He spoke about his greatness and about his wisdom and how he knew everything...and we had to believe because he said so.


Science isn't a belief system, it's a method of study and evaluation of the natural world around us. No scientist would claim anything with absolute certainty because absolutes do not exist in Science. Scientific hypotheses and theories deal with likelihoods, not absolutes; although, those likelihoods can be extremely accurate, and we can test and confirm those conclusions.


originally posted by: beenharmed
Science was simply another of his personal beliefs and ownerships.


Except anyone can perform science. The scientific method requires that cross examination and objective reasoning be applied because subjective reasoning is inherently flawed by the level in which variables come in to play at an individualistic scale.


originally posted by: beenharmed
But his science states fusion happens in a heated act....and the evolution of cold allows the heated act of change and fusion to occur.


Temperature never had a state of "evolution"


originally posted by: beenharmed
He is only a human...he is not the powers of creation and yet he believes he is Satan himself, for he told us he believed he was the fallen Angel.


Why would a scientist believe he is satan? Scientists can be of any religion, or completely without religion. So long as a scientist is properly applying the scientific method, a scientist can have any personal beliefs they want.


Sorry, but virtually none of what you've claimed is at all factual.

Since Humans existed, the Earth has always had an atmosphere. Nor did Homo sapiens exist millions of years ago. Not only that, but the Earth has had at atmosphere for nearly 4.6 billions years. It didn't come and go, but it was made of different elements than it is now.

Humans existed on Earth millions of years ago....were incinerated....found in coal beds.
Coal formation began during the Carboniferous Period - known as the first coal age - which spanned 360 million to 290 million years ago.

Human beings......gained spiritual psyche information from holographic memory.

Human beings consciousness....cell life does not exist in any form of nuclear state.....no consciousness present.

Human beings can only gain information from channeled statuses...radiation sending signals to radiation.

Ancient males were the advised spiritual review that allowed human males to be self advised about occultism...first science. Science itself evolved into a different format due to changes to occultist practices...for occultism was outlawed by the Roman Empire...why Galileo was jailed for his theories of altering forces.

You make false statements about how human males gained occult information to allow for conversions.....as an occult organization you already studied all forms of self theories about occult gain and occult powers and occult wisdoms...your organizations are based upon these precepts and you cannot suddenly argue about the conditions of your personal inheritance.

The human male channeled information stated that the male self....who called his own person a Creator converted the Heavens of Earth...and they fell. The ancient holographic spiritual memory (being atmospheric radiation light and sound that records) states the facts. Oxygen/hydrogen were created by the conversion that he activated on origin Earth.

Christ...the Holy Ox saved his spirit.....his spirit presence did not convert to destruction and was saved by oxygen and water. Our cellular life demonstrates this fact....we exist as an organic being in a separate state.... when water and oxygen exist as its own presence. Our spirit therefore told its own history of what it caused and why spirit was converted having water and oxygen inside of its own spirit body.

Atlantis the male occultists own holographic atmospheric memory in light and sound that gave advice that Earth was flooded with the atmospheric fall out....water saved Earth and Earth sunk under the water. Sand and dust demonstrate that Earth was being disintegrated by combustion....crystal filial impressions in Earth' s stone demonstrate that crystal liquefied and became lava in this attack.

Fresh water was created in the atmosphere....fell onto Earth and when the pressure of water caused the volcanic eruptions due to plate shifts....the eruptions changed the Nature of water by chemical releases.

You cannot make a historical scientific data about our atmosphere...for it evaporated and replaced itself. Your data is wrong....our memory and spirit is correct for occultism gained its advice through the process of spiritual realization....not experiments or theories...so your wrong.

Our ancient occult brother re-evolved....copied his ancient memory and applied science.

Science and conversion/attacks can only be caused by human interference with natural life. Our brother and his scientific implements found in archaeology support this evidence.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: beenharmed

And you completely fail the understanding of human biology, evolution, science, history, astronomy and so many other things.

You said all this comes from a holographic memory? That's called a DREAM to normal people.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: beenharmed

INVENTION.

The WORD OF GOD.....his own spiritual occult advice.

IN VENT ION.

To VENT = the action of escaping or passing out....passage, release.....a small hole or opening....a discharge..an emission, to give release.

ION = an electrically charged atom


You do realize that the word "Invention" was not created in the English Language, but rather durived from Old French, and before that directly from Latin:

c.1400, "devised method of organization," from Old French invencion (13c.) and directly from Latin inventionem (nominative inventio) "faculty of invention; a finding, discovery," noun of action from past participle stem of invenire "devise, discover, find," from in- "in, on" (see in- (2)) + venire "to come" (see venue ).

You're also breaking the word apart incorrectly. it's not "ion" it's "tion". "-tion" is a suffix occurring in words of Latin origin, used to form abstract nouns from verbs or stems not identical with verbs, whether as expressing action ( revolution; commendation), or a state ( contrition; starvation), or associated meanings ( relation; temptation).


originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: beenharmed
To INVENT....states that to act as if you are GOD...when you are not GOD, but a human occultist is to be a Satanist.


No. Please read the correct history of the word "Invent" above.

All your following claims are based off of a False Premise


I am talking about the WORD OF GOD....not french.

The WORD OF GOD is factoring by using O circles....PHI = angle of a LETTER...a LETTER = a numerical value.

The REAL meanings of science/occultism.......not the spoken language version.

Occultists used SOPHISM....hidden meanings of advice.

Therefore unless you yourself know how occultists applied values, then you have no place to argue about what the WORD OF GOD stated....a spiritual prophetic advice of truths or reality....cause and effect statements.

New Science no longer applied SOPHISM....for they had to alter their narcissistic use of intelligence and secrecy and therefore equated new meanings to keep their occultism secret as a practice.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl
I could type for days and no one would 'get it' ... unless they've had some measure of first-hand experience.

This:

A brotherhood of our ancient occult brother....a level of spirit consciousness existed on Earth and as a brotherhood chose to change our life.

This is how we know that evil is owned by our brothers....a level of spiritual consciousness that affects ALL MALES on Earth, no matter what culture they live in.


Damn near blew me away.


Well, at least one person would get it (OP)

No offense to the OP or anything, but everything they have posted so far is a perfect example of the writings of someone who may be Schizophrenic. So far the OP has exhibited many common symptoms include false beliefs, delusions (often bizarre or persecutory in nature), and unclear or confused and disorganized thinking and speech.
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)

I would advise a cautionary state while contemplating the validity of the OP's claims.


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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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ive never read so much bull# in my life. Get some mental help man....im not being funny either



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: beenharmed

Firstly, shamanism is only one form of magical practice and may not necessarily be occult.

Let me make things plain by a couple of definitions:

- Magical belief relies on the existence of a supernatural realm. In that realm, there are multiple entities, but these entities are subject to the rules of the supernatural realm in which they reside. This leads to a situation where these entities may vie with each other for dominance and may also ally in their struggle. In this scenario, the Magician is one who tries to control situations through manipulation of supernatural entities or manipulation of the supernatural realm itself. Very often magical control is supposedly achieved by manipulation of a token with similarity to the thing they are trying to manipulate (think of a voodoo doll as a token of the person one wishes to control).

- The word "occult" means "hidden" and hence occult knowledge is hidden knowledge - occult practices are hidden practices - occult books are about hidden things. Magic is not necessarily occult.

Shamanism and magic may also occur without the mediation of drugs. The Dervishes used to spin around violently until they entered their trance like states. Other ascetics meditated, self-hypnotized, fasted or pushed their bodies to extremes to achieve altered states of consciousness where they could encounter the supernatural.

Your post is very unclear but seems to make assumptions without adequate corroborative information.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: beenharmed
Humans existed on Earth millions of years ago....were incinerated....found in coal beds.
Coal formation began during the Carboniferous Period - known as the first coal age - which spanned 360 million to 290 million years ago.


Your sources, please.


originally posted by: beenharmed
Human beings......gained spiritual psyche information from holographic memory.

Human beings consciousness....cell life does not exist in any form of nuclear state.....no consciousness present.

Human beings can only gain information from channeled statuses...radiation sending signals to radiation.


Your sources, please.



originally posted by: beenharmed
You make false statements about how human males gained occult information to allow for conversions


I've already shown how your view of Science as an occult is false. You are free to show how my information on the matter is inaccurate though. Until then, you're just making an invalid claim.



originally posted by: beenharmed
You cannot make a historical scientific data about our atmosphere...for it evaporated and replaced itself.


Actually, we can. We don't need to directly go up to the atmosphere and gather information, we can objectively see what made up the atmosphere through things like Ice Core Samples, for instance, as well as through Geology.


originally posted by: beenharmed
Your data is wrong....our memory and spirit is correct for occultism gained its advice through the process of spiritual realization....not experiments or theories...so your wrong.


No, you're just making claims. You haven't actually proven my information wrong. However, if you have sources to back up the claims you're making, and those sources validly counter my information, then I will be proven wrong.


originally posted by: beenharmed
Science and conversion/attacks can only be caused by human interference with natural life. Our brother and his scientific implements found in archaeology support this evidence.


One sentence you demonize Science, the next sentence you're using it as proof. You can't have both.



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