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How? With what? How are Mexico going to pay for it? What happens if they don't? Who's going to built it?
Make Mexico Pay For The Wall
For many years, Mexico’s leaders have been taking advantage of the United States by using illegal immigration to export the crime and poverty in their own country (as well as in other Latin American countries). They have even published pamphlets on how to illegally immigrate to the United States. The costs for the United States have been extraordinary: U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc. Indeed, the annual cost of free tax credits alone paid to illegal immigrants quadrupled to $4.2 billion in 2011. The effects on jobseekers have also been disastrous, and black Americans have been particularly harmed.
The impact in terms of crime has been tragic. In recent weeks, the headlines have been covered with cases of criminals who crossed our border illegally only to go on to commit horrific crimes against Americans. Most recently, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, with a long arrest record, is charged with breaking into a 64 year-old woman’s home, crushing her skull and eye sockets with a hammer, raping her, and murdering her. The Police Chief in Santa Maria says the “blood trail” leads straight to Washington.
In 2011, the Government Accountability Office found that there were a shocking 3 million arrests attached to the incarcerated alien population, including tens of thousands of violent beatings, rapes and murders.
Meanwhile, Mexico continues to make billions on not only our bad trade deals but also relies heavily on the billions of dollars in remittances sent from illegal immigrants in the United States back to Mexico ($22 billion in 2013 alone).
In short, the Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners. They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.
The cost of building a permanent border wall pales mightily in comparison to what American taxpayers spend every single year on dealing with the fallout of illegal immigration on their communities, schools and unemployment offices.
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.
originally posted by: xuenchen
The NWO crowd is laughing on the outside and scared listless on the inside.
And historically, the big bank scams all originated in England and Europe.
Why do you assume I have an argument? I'm asking questions to find answers, so the substance can come out, discussion points can form and we can talk politics - instead of the kindergarten insult trading posts that have been so prevalent in this thread.
How quickly do you think those policies can be enacted? How long would it take to build such a wall and what type would be effective? Do you think that building walls is effective social/economic policy and what kind of a signal does it send out given the negative connotations of, say, the Berlin Wall and the barriers around Palestine? Would it alienate a trading partner and have repercussions elsewhere if Mexico aligned with a different political block? Do you think the democrats might stonewall anything Trump puts forward in the same way the Republicans have done with Obama, effectively hamstringing such plans?
What about the illegal immigrants who come through other ports/areas, and specifically - those who come by airplane?
Again - I'm personally stoked to see a wall being built straight up into the stratosphere... and what about underground tunnel complexes? Well - I suppose the wall must also be built into the ground to prevent this, yes?
I don't think anyone is questioning the illegal immigration problem - it's just that many would rather see actual solutions as opposed to "A Great Wall."
Again - how is this wall going to prevent airplane immigration, and those who come from the East and/or West and/or North Coast?
Having a bigoted reality tv personality as president would be like a noose the American people used to hang their reputation with. The US would become the laughing stock of the world. ..... Just saying.
This is rather tricky I know, but you do realize that there would be no way to respect an electorate, if they selected such a fantastical moron as Trump to represent them?
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: DanDanDat
Well, not to knock anyone or anything, but the simple fact is that the rest of the world contains people whose intellect and awareness of international affairs is such, that they understand that what happens on one side of the planet, affects what happens on the other.
We pay attention, because it is worth doing. It prepares us for the worst, which is just as well from the looks of things. What you said about most folks in the US not giving a fig about what happens outside it...I should not really need to tell you how that sounds, should I? What it sounds like, just so we are absolutely clear, is a bloody good reason to keep a close eye on matters in the US. For all that our members here on ATS who happen to be from the States, are rather a worldly bunch, we KNOW how little many in the States consider the plight of other nations and peoples.
That is why it is concerning that you have a xenophobic lackwit about to potentially take power there. It does not take much for casual disregard to become cold dispassion, and that is a very dangerous mix, a dispassionate populous only interested in their own lives, and a leader who enjoys manipulating and destroying people. Its a cluster bang waiting to happen.
originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: donktheclown
Congratulations for being the stereotypical "American", now can you please stop using the term "we".
Unless you have a mouse in your pocket you speak only for yourself & not the rest of America.
Oh & just to make you aware, it's not just the Europeans or just the rest of the world, a plurality of Americans also think trump & his supporters are a joke.
Respect is never given, it is earned.
originally posted by: samson3od3lana
Donald Trump is a human thermometer sent by his master's to test the temperature of ignorance in America so the next administration and congress know how difficult it would be to get support for a religious based(Islam) law even though it violates the constitution. You can't decide what rights a person has based on religion. If it ever happened, precedent setting cases like that make it easier to make more laws like it until we all accept the beast religion of solomon II. We all got the Mark of the beast with our ss# and microchipping isn't necessary because we have smart phones. Trump is a reality tv star not worth as much as everyone thinks. P
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
If Trump got elected, I could see the international community having to form a sit-down "intervention" for Americans. LOL