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A Very Mysterious suicide in Brazil maybe connected to Demons

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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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This is a very sad news, a young 15 year-old girl disappeared and was found in the place she worked. It would be a regular suicide caused by depression, if it wasn’t by a strange letter written in Latin that mentions demons.

This is a very big discussion the subject, and if you have enough patient to go trough the end, you will be intrigued as me:

I won’t post pictures of a dead body for respect. I translated the research for you guys and take your own conclusions:


A young woman in São Carlos, who allegedly committed suicide left a very strange letter written in Latin.

The story began last Friday (15) when the family started getting worried and posted a request for support on Facebook since the daughter had not returned from work and was missing. The request for assistance was placed on other social networks. Unfortunately, on Sunday night, the girl's body was found in the archive section of the company she worked, in downtown St. Charles.

It’s unknown who found the body, sources say it was a woman, who went to the headquarters after finding out about the disapearence. However, some other city websites speak that would have been the watchman of the company. Let's assume that it was the alleged 39 year old woman who found her body, whose name was not disclosed. She found the girl with a piece of cloth tied around her neck, hanging in the window, on top of a ladder.

The SAMU (Mobile Emergency Service) went to the scene and found her death. Apparently the cause of death would have been suicide, she was found hanged with the curtain, but there are many strange things about her death.


Let's review some of them:

The letter written in lattin



The girl was found with a handwritten letter, written in Latin, considered a dead language, but still taught in many colleges. L. was 15 and they were astonished at her sudden and untimely death. At first, many believed that the letter was not written by the young girl, and many people believed it was written using Google translator (like this translation I’m using for you guys lol, sorry, but i'm lazy)

To date, there is no official translation of it, but some people were able to understand some things. The letter has a series of mystical elements, a mixture of religious interpretations, outbursts, relationship and family. The letter begins with a title that draws attention: Sent. She also points out that it was not heard by those who she "loved."

The letter mentions some sort of prophecy, troubled mind speeches, seeking explanations and still references the need for love, family principles and the obligation to obey the gospel.

Elsewhere in the letter there are references to some sort of rejection, which may possibly be related to a particular emotional young relationship. Another point that stands out in an "analysis provided by the letter" is that the girl mentions "a tired and weak mind, a passion undisturbed (...) prepared for us." The letter ends talking about the “beautiful heart delinquent” or whatever this means and again, cites the word gospel.

The letter fully translated



An user named "dogpupe" made a translation of the text. He confirmed that it was not made in the google translator due to the complexity of the content. It’s unknown where the girl learned Latin.


I was studing the letter last night. I studied Latin in college, and what the the girl wrote in the letter is advanced ecclesiastical Latin. Google translator only translates words, and can not translate syntactic rules. The Latin is a language that syntactic rules are very complicated, and the letter of the girl is perfectly in line with the rules. It is impossible for a common translator of the Internet to have produced the text of this letter, because of the complexity of the content. Below I'll let my free translation of the letter (error-prone)



"She agreed. The attacks have to be stronger, it will fight.
While we are close, the heart is gray. He said "no" and asked about the way to go, since he will rule.
And yet to hear my voice, sometimes she looks up at him.
Remember, only a disturbed mind clings to those they love.
A year ago, he had a dream. Saw all be yours, since to send a gift, life. Something innocent, could be a disaster.
She had the need for an agreement to save the head of the family, the one who obeyed the gospel. But all the earth shall die.
Nothing is done for free and debts back sailing in awhile.
So the choice must be made by yourself, from there I did.
For the family, the gift of a girl is to see and hear and feel.
Fortunately we managed. This soul was weak, the troubled mind did not sustain a passion for heaven.
So it was easier to bring it to our side. When they attack, they go to the last remnant of the soul.
I leave the letter as a form of explanation.

GAAP
(below, written with a shaky hand, in Portuguese)
I LOVE YOU"


I Love "yous"



At the end of the letter, you can see the written words "Eu Amo Voceis" or “I Love Yous” in Portuguese (yes, it’s written that way). The first thing that stands out is the gross error of Portuguese as it was written "yous" instead of "you."

Another thing that stands out, is that "I love yous" is written in an entirely different content written in Latin form. It seems to be another letter, as if someone else had written. It is written diagonally. It's like is she was shaking, either out of fear or under the influence of some substance. It is also possible that it has written above a bad support or below, for example, on a cardboard or plastic box having ripples. This does not mean that the Latin text was written in the same place, but that the hand could shake a lot.

Incidentally, the Latin text is written in block letters, just to make it difficult for the author to be detected. It seems it was wrote fast, but that the person knew very well what was going to write. On at least two occasions there are corrections on words using the stylus. Assuming that this was something demonic and the devil knew Latin, he would intentionality error on the text?

However, notice the "drop" the letter "i" along the letter and then "Voceis". Noticed something? The distance of the “.”"i" regarding the letter itself seems to always be the same. However, not all the letters "i" were written in the same way (putting the "drop").

Does a person wrote the letter and the other "I love Voceis"? Does the young women wrote this in one place and as she was about to commit the act and decided to write "I love Voceis" on a bad support or any surface with irregular relief?

Also, "LOVE VOCEIS" can not be a typo because in Latin means "I LOVE HER VOICE" ...

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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:44 AM
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The letter assigned by Gaap



The letter is signed apparently by someone named "GAAP".

According to the Wikipedia site, in demonology, GAAP would be a powerful "Prince and Grand President of Hell", commanding sixty-six legions of demons. According to the grimoires of the Lesser Key of Solomon, he is the King and the Prince of southern region of hell and earth and according to Pseudomonarchia Daemonum, King of the western region and is as mighty as Beleth.


Gaap specifically control the water element and reign over the water element or "water of the demons." If this is actually consistent with what is known in demonology, would no longer be "coherent", would this means that a death by "drowning" would be the same as "hanging"?

GAAP still teach philosophy and all the Liberal Sciences, may cause love or hate and makes insensitive men, forgeting their own family, and teaching them to consecrate things that belong to the domain of their subordinates. GAAP also gives real answers relating to the matters of the past, present and future, and could lead the men and things quickly from a "nation" to another. According to some authors he could make men ignorant.

He would also be the demon responsible for conflict in the Mortal world. First there would be no disputes or rivalry, then he would have entered the battle on the ground on a whim. For GAAP, wae would be kind of fun for men, which later turned any kind of duel, strife and suffering, thus bringing many misfortunes to the whole land. Because of this, he abandoned his angel post and became a demon, finally being described as if it had a human form.


We can’t really say that her death was caused by a demon. Although it could be used as a kind of "advantage" or "simulation" if one wanted to make it appear that L. had committed suicide because of a possible demonic pact.

The Strange Photo Supposedly L. Making A " Figa " in one of her hands hands



L.'s body was found with arm that would be lifted in relation to her body and at least one hand above his shoulder. Both of her hands also were making the sign of a "fig". In Brazil, this sign with his hand symbolizes “good wishes”. Nowadays it is used as an amulet against bad people in the belief that this symbol can distract evil. It sounds strange, does not it? However,a fig, originally an Italian amulet, called "Mano Fico" was also used by the Etruscans in the Roman era. "Mano" means hand and "I am" or "Figa", which is the representation of the female genitals, and was associated with fertility and eroticism. The thumb refers to the male sexual organ.

The amulet can also be a gesture made with hands, where the middle finger and index finger intersect. This type of amulet is also used in most Western countries, as a sign of protection against diseases and bad things in general. This way of doing the "fig" emerged during the persecution that Christians were suffering at the beginning of Christianity, between Century I and IV. The gesture symbolized subtly a sign of the cross.


The fig arrived in Brazil through European settlement, didn’t took long to be incorporated into the african-Brazilian religions as a symbol of protection from spirits and negative energies. According to the believers of these religions, the fig is an amulet that helps "close the body" of people against the forces of evil, ensuring protection to their carriers. However, not everywhere that the amulet is seen as a symbol of protection. In Turkey the fig is interpreted as a gesture obscene and offensive, representing the sexual act of vulgar and banal way.


Experts consulted from the website "Front São Carlos" would have said that in the case of hanging, even before the person dies there is a faint and consequently a certain sagging muscles, this would make the arms fall naturally and not get raised above the shoulder. This being true, however i'm not an expert in this matter, for the young, which didn’t happen in this case.

Other strange questions

There are also some very weird facts regarding the object and how the girl got access to the room in the company she worked as a “young-apprentice.”, a common legal practice that teenagers do In Brazil to get extra money.

    -Did someone put the body of L. Alves in the place where it was found and then tried to "fix" the file room (which eventually could become a murder scene and not suicide) or she went to the place and simply hanged herself?

    -The RPS Engineering had no security cameras? They did not recorded anything?
    According to SCDN site (São Carlos Day and Night), L. was an apprentice at the central office of the company, she had no access to key office gateway and other rooms. How she got acess to the office?

    -Nobody saw her leaving the work at around 17h on Friday (15). If she returned to the office after a couple hours, how no one saw her? No light was turned on? No alarm was triggered?

    -According to a reader of the site "San Carlos Now," when a person dies abruptly, which is another name to the method of "hanging", it would be normal to the human body to release secretions such as urine and feces, which was not have been found in the death scen . There was also no traces of urine or feces. It was also not found in any location of secretion on the head region, which experts say it would be the most likely since the hanging force would "break the neck". There is a possibility of bleeding or secretions from the mouth, ear or nose when a death occurs by hanging, nothing was found.


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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:50 AM
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While this would make for a great episode on Supernatural the more likely, much more likely explanation is it was just a depressed teenager that sadly has done what so many depressed teens have done over time just with a bit more creativity.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA
While this would make for a great episode on Supernatural the more likely, much more likely explanation is it was just a depressed teenager that sadly has done what so many depressed teens have done over time just with a bit more creativity.


That's a likely explanation.

Also added pictures of the letter to the post.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:01 AM
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Was rough to read the content and ... decent translation.

Though I was able to understand everything that was being said.

Demons run a huge portion of our world. The unseen has influences on the seen.

Latin seems to be a language related to many demonic events, whether the host is being overtaken and a demonic is speaking in Latin, or writing.

Latin is also a strange language and much of English originates from it, and Latin itself originates from earlier language.

Demons are ancient and recurring in the humaname experience. They have been around forever, causing all sorts of backwards events, wars being a big one.

People would be shocked at how frequently these demonic takeovers are. It's probably because those corporately owned media outlets have agenda, and supernatural is not part of it.

Also I believe to an extent, the powers that are, take these demons by ranking, and follow their deeds, hence the soulless aspect of our leaders, bankers etc.

But these mysterious deaths happen a lot more then the masses are aware of. If people were exposed to these events more, it would be telling of the natures that exist beyond physical appearance.
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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: Frocharocha

originally posted by: opethPA
While this would make for a great episode on Supernatural the more likely, much more likely explanation is it was just a depressed teenager that sadly has done what so many depressed teens have done over time just with a bit more creativity.


That's a likely explanation.

Also added pictures of the letter to the post.


A Brazilian teenager who is depressed and randomly chose to learn fluent Latin, and use that language as a message for her relatives who don't understand Latin and would need a translator?

I think a more obvious explanation is, your ignorant.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: Elementalist


Wow, that was unnecessary. It's very possible the teen used a translation system and did not learn fluent Latin.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: Frocharocha

My first thought is, someone wrote it for her. Predators focus online because of the anonymity, isn't it possible she was chatting with someone who than taught her how to write her suicide note?



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: Frocharocha

My first thought is, someone wrote it for her. Predators focus online because of the anonymity, isn't it possible she was chatting with someone who than taught her how to write her suicide note?


There are not enough details. But sure, any explanation is a possibility. The main problem with that is that, like the translator confirmed, the letter was written in fluent latin, and very few people even bother to speak another language in the country at all. I also don't know why a sexual predator would spend time writing a suicide letter like that or something, if this was the case, this man would be insanely scary.


A Brazilian teenager who is depressed and randomly chose to learn fluent Latin, and use that language as a message for her relatives who don't understand Latin and would need a translator?

I think a more obvious explanation is, your ignorant.


Sorry if i offended you :/



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:30 AM
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Well, Pat Robertson on the 700 Club claims that David Bowie did not die but was instead taken to Hell by demons conjured by rock music so why not? A demon for you, a demon for you, a demon for everyone! Hahahaha this demon stuff is so stupid.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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In order to determine the particulars in this case, "demons" must be ruled out. As long as they are even considered, logic goes out the window, and superstitious fears rule the case. Fortunately, the police will likely do just that.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Antipathy17
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My first thought is, someone wrote it for her. Predators focus online because of the anonymity, isn't it possible she was chatting with someone who than taught her how to write her suicide note?

Speaking about predators, serial killers fantasize about their being the devil or killing for the devil, not a stretch to imagine killing someone and make it appear a suicide.

That note appears written by someone else, maybe he forced her to sign it (that shaky scrawl)?



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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Also, "LOVE VOCEIS" can not be a typo because in Latin means "I LOVE HER VOICE" …

Asshole enjoyed hearing her beg for her life.

You're right about bowels letting go at the moment of death, if hers didn't she was hung after she died.

Friggin weirdo. Not a demon, just a sick human being playing with peoples sentiments, 'posing' the corpse in an insulting style for detectives and family.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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The poor thing! Someone killed her, wrote the letter and aranged the scene as a distraction, gave her drugs and probably has now a big boner when he reads this one the news...
Let's hope they find him or there will be more "demon kills". Sick, crazy asshole.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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I'm not sure if I read this correctly but the way her hands were positioned according to you sounds like the pose of baphomet.

The pose being one hand raised above the shoulder while the other arm is positioned downwards with an open palm.

This whole thing would be much easier to dismiss if it wasn't for the difference in hand writing and the fact she did not have access to this part of the building.

This might be a stretch but maybe she was used as part of a satanic ritual, and the people who wrote the Latin stuff were her captors who were explaining the reason for the summoning.

The final message of "I love yous" could be her actual handwriting and it's all shaky because she is perhaps frightened by the circumstance she's in.
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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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What a very odd story. Will try and find out more on an English site.

Seems the most peculiar of things to write a suicide letter firstly in latin and secondly with such terminology at age 15 its content sounds to be of someone far older to me



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:56 AM
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What ever may have happened here, a suicide or a murder....the writing is beautiful.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: Elementalist

originally posted by: Frocharocha

originally posted by: opethPA
While this would make for a great episode on Supernatural the more likely, much more likely explanation is it was just a depressed teenager that sadly has done what so many depressed teens have done over time just with a bit more creativity.


That's a likely explanation.

Also added pictures of the letter to the post.



I think a more obvious explanation is, your ignorant.


Looks like you're possessed by a hostile demon.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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Excellent thread. S+F

Frocharocha, ignore the ATS zombies that cannot grasp the simple fact that daemons, jinn (Shaytan class) commonly communicate in their native Latin tongue.

This really happens when a daemon takes control of the host body and gets into an argument with a 30ft high, 10ft wide cloaked demon.

They are getting ready for a big event to take place during February 2016. Basically, all hell is about to break lose.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Frocharocha


Also, "LOVE VOCEIS" can not be a typo because in Latin means "I LOVE HER VOICE" …


Friggin weirdo. Not a demon, just a sick human being playing with peoples sentiments, 'posing' the corpse in an insulting style for detectives and family.



Wow, please share your obvious inside information with us since you conclude it wasn't a demon. You must have proof they don't exist.




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