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George Soros says Europe on verge of collapse

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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
George Soros (Mr. NWO), big money manipulator, international bandit, former Nazi collaborator


While i dont like the man, saying he's a Nazi collaborator just shows how easily manipulated you are as a poster. He was born in 1930. He was 13/14 when the Nazi's hit Hungary and many people did what ever they had to, to survive.

back to the article.. Europe wont collapse because of migrants.. People will get angry, a few will be killed, some will leave and some will stay. Laws will change and politicians will be voted out!




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

But certainly he must know all about something or he wouldn't be "investing" millions of dollars during these staggering events before they are over with.

He MUST have "pre-influences" from paid operatives "ahead" of a profitable crisis.




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: NihilistSanta

Looks like Soros Inc. is indeed active in "pre-propaganda" (pre-profit) efforts !!!




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

He's a gambler of the world. Surely you don't believe all his bets are profitable. He's had many failed actions. I have no doubt he does his homework and has "pre-influences"... isn't that what the open society institute is about?
edit on 20-1-2016 by pl3bscheese because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: xuenchen


George Soros says Europe on verge of collapse


This is exactly what he wanted.

He is happy as a clam at high tide.

All you here who claim to want the NWO, Soros is your man. enjoy



I don't see the collapse of the EU as being a step towards NWO simply because ex Nato members will never get the votes to join yet another coalition.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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Also, after reading the article, he isn't saying its on the verge of collapse. He is referring to Merkel's opinion that it is on the verge of collapse.


She was perhaps even more farsighted when she recognized that the migration crisis had the potential to destroy the European Union



As she correctly predicted, the EU is on the verge of collapse. The Greek crisis taught the European authorities the art of muddling through one crisis after another. This practice is popularly known as kicking the can down the road, although it would be more accurate to describe it as kicking a ball uphill so that it keeps rolling back down. The EU now is confronted with not one but five or six crises at the same time.



Merkel correctly foresaw the potential of the migration crisis to destroy the European Union.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

George Soros is on the verge of arrest along with the rest of the cabal.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

He is correct but was this engineered by his clique or competitors or was it the inevitable outcome, either way he and those like him will gain only more power from the chaos while the poorest suffer even more, still this may see a rebirth of internal socialist values as the penduluum has now swung too extremely far to the right with the bankers and hedge fund managers being the criminals behind this corruption of our economy's far more than any external influence.

One can only wonder as well if the wars in the Middle and near east were actually engineered along with the influx of migrants in order to deliberately destabilise the EU as they are a major national factor in growing stress driven by public opinon becoming more and more xenophobic in the EU member states along with the inevitable fracturing of ties that is now likely between them as they begin the scramble to restore border control on the edges of there country's.

Europe also went with the begging bowl to china and that also has a knock on catastrophic effect on europe as China now faces it's own downturn which will see it lose economic power while it trys to compensate by increasing it's military power with the inevitable likelyhood of an eventual east west face off and even regional conflicts as the nations whom they are seizing territory from will likely join forces before much longer has passed and take there own action creating yet another power block behind the chinese and indian's back's in the region, a power block in time may then come to rival both india and china but which will likely lead to an inevitable war as china has no intention of stopping it's agressive expansion thinking itself unstoppable, a war which may drag the west into it in one way or another though Vietnam is the wild card which may yet swap sides if it yet decides that it's interests lie with China as this would then throw this potential new allied block into the realms of hypothetical oblivion.

If europe goes then china will be emboldened, conflict with Japan and Vietnam (whom may or may not form a tacit alliance) will become more likely, the philipines will side with Japan as it has the current strongest navy in the region and without the US is the only hope they have of facing off against the chinese territorial expanion and seizure, south Korea will remain in stalemate with north Korea as the chinese try to keep there rabid fat dog on a leash but let him bark now and then, India will likely avoid conflict unless directly attacked, the economic and social collapse of western europe speeded up by the growing power of police state's and right wing politicians with there idiotic run away free market idiology's will have a knock on effect on the US whom will probably withdraw from the middle east in order to secure there own national boundarys under the potential president trump with his own growingly popular anti immigration, America first stance (which if I was a US citizen I would likely be enticed by as well, how can he be an idiot when he is a self made billionare though that hair is awful and he may be too right wing).

Look at the chaos, right wing idiological driven governments are becoming more popular in spite of the suffering they cause there own poor, this is the age of the anti christ, the kali yuga and it show's as the world is slipping into the darkness before war.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Rothchild influenced Dick Cheney was the power behind the wars in the ME and taking down Syria and Gaddafi.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

In Afghanistan there was plan to build a piple line through helmand taking oil and gase from the former soviet republic Azerbaijan and it's gas fields to western china as these money men wanted to make a killing (financially) by doing this but of course they failed to bring the peace they wanted or impose and simply wasted young lives and the lives of both innocent and guilty afghans, there pretext for the invasion was of course under bush whom almost rubbed his hands together in gless as the plan took off, it is not about money but power and they were playing to try to gain power over china in a card game which backfired, china may have been content for a time if they had succeeded but now has to secure it's resources by it's own agressive expansion and they did not want china in Afghanistan despite the fact they are best placed to do what the soviet failed as then the chinese would have been helping themselves and these money men would not have had there power surge and to further complicate matters Russia started to get strong again as well making there plan even more shaky.

Iraq and Syria were also about oil and nothing else, human lives do not matter to these men and if you could analyze them you would find they fall into the sociopath/psychopath catagory as they lack empathy with human being's.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:22 PM
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America trots around the globe bringing "American style freedom and Walmart!"...

Aren't we kind of complicit in helping bring about a new world order in the shape and design of America? We kind of invade and go to war with anyone who doesn't behave how we want them to.

National sovereignty my butt...we've never respected that! Act American-like or be invaded!



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I don't think it was about oil I think there are other interests involved.

You know what's weird is the Rothchild family has massive holding and a large presence in the mining industries in Africa and South America.

I find this to be odd. It's almost as if they are hoarding all of the gold, and other precious metals on earth.

Why's that?

That's the real question...



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 02:04 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

He says nationalism is a problem and countries are selfish and mired in self-interests.



well, he says that for 2 reasons, 1. is because he has no pride in his own country, the US, unless he does not see himself as a citizen of the US but of Israel. Someone should ask him if believes Israel should have open borders.

2. He is effectively, like Trump and a few others; is a super citizen which means he unofficially has diplomatic immunity from the laws of any country he visits and has the automatic right and entry and exit and cannot be arrested for anything less than a capital offense.

To him, borders and immigration points are just a pain the arse.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
George Soros (Mr. NWO), big money manipulator, international bandit, former Nazi collaborator and master of NGO trickery and infiltrator of banks and governments, and backer of worldwide politicians is claiming Europe is on the verge of collapse !!



Any evidence other than the right-wing blogosphere that Soros was a Nazi collaborator.

mediamatters.org...



Columnist claimed Soros "collaborated with the Nazis" to survive Holocaust. In a September 5 Toronto Sun column (accessed via Nexis), Ezra Levant wrote of Soros:

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When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

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Levant distorted the conduct of Soros, who was 14 years old at the time. As Media Matters has noted, Soros, who discussed his childhood in Nazi-occupied Hungary in a 1998 interview on CBS' 60 Minutes, was only a young teen during the Holocaust and was under the care of a Hungarian Agriculture Ministry employee, posing as his godson. On 60 Minutes, Soros said that he accompanied his "godfather" as he went to oversee the confiscation of property from Hungarian Jews.

As biographer Michael Kaufman wrote in Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire (page 37):

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This is what actually happened. Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his "godson" behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld's staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss.

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Sun issues correction, apologizes to Soros. In a September 18 correction, the Toronto Sun, Sun Media, and Levant retracted the false Nazi collaborator claim and apologized:



originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: xuenchen

George Soros is on the verge of arrest along with the rest of the cabal.


Any proof of this, or did you just make it up?



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:53 AM
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Is Soros a Nazi?



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:02 AM
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And it just goes on and on ,...



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: stonerwilliam
Soros is a piece of work a reverse Robbin Hood

What is it with these old guys who like to hang on to power well into their 80s at any cost

Soros / Berlusconi /kissinger /Blatter etc etc , can they not just go away with all their money and retire happy and leave the rest of us be .

Maybe their should be a law about it





I don't know if there's a law, but I heard a rule that rings pretty
true in poleticks. There are two kinds of people in the world:
those that want to be left alone, and those that were born to
mess with you. I think Soros is the latter... may have been born
that way.
Wonder how hard it was to not smile and say "Look what I DID."



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

just go on Facebook and you'll see refugees asking people to help them get to EU too. I just saw this one:

"Hi I am Mohamed from Syria I wanna go to Europe can you help me please thanks"

I wonder how many fools are actually sending these people money



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: NihilistSanta
Sometimes you have to wonder about Putin. At times I think he is an NWO puppet other times you wonder if he is just a good nationalist being demonized by the globalist. Hard to say.


I think he used to be with the NWO plan but something made him change his mind. I don't trust him 100% but I agree with many of the thing he says and things he does...

The enemy of your enemy is your friend, so they say.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

It was as I pointed out about POWER, oil was the medium by which they would influence China in the case of the Afghanistan Travesty, the Taliban did need bringing down though as the west actually created them by training the mujahadin to fight the soviets and the training they gave to the mujahadin was passed onto the Taliban Extremist's.

Historically Afghanistan is one of the forgotten cradles of human civilization but there was nothing altruistic behind this military action, the spill over from these actions are also detrimental to the west, especially europe.

Bush Jr an oil company board member wanted the oil in Iraq as well as to outdo his father, the Cameron whose own financial link's are far more murky and his french counterpart wanted the Oil in Libya especially since despite playing a major part in acquiring the Iraqi oil fields for the US interested the British companys were almost entirely snubbed for the following massively lucrative deal's in Iraq with nealy all the contract's being dished out by the interim US controlled adminstration to US contractor's which left a bitter taste in the mouth of the British interest's though the British prime minister at the time Tony Blair the new labour 'closet' tory whose own wife cherry blair had a case of fraudulant property investment concerning flats in london brushed under the carpet was only too willing to sit on Bush knee and yap like a good little puppy at the expense of the British tax payer on an international mission which is today recognised as having been taken illegally though no prosecutions are ever likely to be brought on this matter, what is more the SECOND Iraq war did not serve the interests of either the US as a nation or it's People or indeed the West in general and only served to destabilize the region.

Colonel Gadaffi despite being a definite bad guy just like Sadam Hussein but he was growing more moderate in his old age and at least kept the more extreme elements in check, his removal in the way it took place was also a mistake for europe and north africa in General, in a smack on the face though the British and French did not get what they wanted as the region of Libya degenerated almost immediately though if you notice most of the oil fields are fairly under control.

The Turkish prime ministers son has been implicated in making deal's with and funnelling vast amounts of probably western fund's since he is likely a middle man to the Isil terrorists in Syria and Iraq while at the same time the Turk's were allowing the Extremists to butcher the Ethnic Kurd's (nothing knew there the kurd's whom are probably descendants of the regions native people as opposed to the later arab immigration which swept the region under the Islamic expansion).

But there is a saying WAR is Good for business.

Though today most weapons manufacturers are now pharmaceutical companys, after oil these are the most lucrative business in the world and have engineered as much removal of national health care in as many country's as they can in order to take over those nation's health care, today they are withholding research on broad spectrum anti biotics and broad spectrum anti viral drugs as tailored drugs make far more money for them, also a controlled pandemic which they need within the next ten years will be good to boost business for them, the Gates foundation (You know about bill gate's and his Vaccination program which was also sterilizing the third world populations were his foundation was administering it, another criminal) has been linked to this drive to remove national health care in african countrys and bring in private health care his probably notion and idiology being to kill off the poor while keeping those whom can pay alive?.

As for the gold in south america, those contracts and treatis which tie almost all country's in the world to the Rothschilds are far more extensive than even you have noted, there is probably far more gold unextracted in the region's the rothschilds hold those deed's too than is currently in circulation, especially in south america, I admire there ancestor though he was definitely a scheister but a good one as for a long time they were actually a force for good despite what we see today (and from the time of the first world war when they backed all nations financially in both the 1418 and WW2) but are they still in control or are there those for whom they are mere puppets today, I can't help but think of a much less wealthy guy whom grew too big for his legacy to be safe, Onasis whose children were murdered by the men whom were running his legacy after he died so that they could keep control and also of Howard Hughes whose empire grew so vast that it was of national interest to the states so they poisoned him - he knew they were poisoning him and kept his wardrobe full off his urine in containers but whatever they gave him made him so paranoid that he did not know who to get his samples tested by.

But yes the Rothschilds remain high up.

These two sites are highly controversial and posit singular view point's, that said I broadly agree, in the UK it is called the Hierarchy.
truththeory.com...
rasera786.blogspot.co.uk...
I preferre this site
2012patriot.wordpress.com...




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