America Needs A Third Major Political Party----How About The Independent Moderate Party

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: rickymouse

I'm with you. We'll both run for president on the new "Independent Moderate Centrist Party."

Such a long name. Maybe we should call it the ODD party. For Oppositional Defiance Disorder. Well, I guess that is what Trump is doing, scrap that idea. Maybe the CLP (compulsive liar party)...Oh we would have to get Clinton to run for that.

Nobody is going to believe any party that tells the truth, we have been living a lie for so long that the truth is almost unrecognizable.

How about a Representative Party in which the platform recognizes that their job is to represent their constituents? Given the modern technology of the Internet, access of opinion can be easily be reached and the official votes according to the people rather than a party or personal position.

I know, I know... pipe dream.

a reply to: rickymouse

Unfortunately, there are far too many out there who are simply afraid of the truth!

a reply to: Informer1958

However, I would like to see a third Party that is not allowed to except any Corporate, A Packs, or big lobbying money period.

You are right about why Trump and Sanders are soaring - neither is accepting big lobbying money -
both are more "Independent" than anything.

I'm not sure I understand your statement above, however - are you thinking the Dems and Reps would still be allowed to be sold to the highest bidders?

I think we should do away with lobbying, superPACs, and private campaign funding altogether. All taxpayers pledge the $3 to Presidential Election Fund (which is already in the tax code - you can choose to do so or not) - so - we all do it, and whatever money that adds up to gets split evenly between all candidates.

That's all they get. They also get a pre-determined allotment of air-time to speak their piece (donated by the media outlets) - and maybe a free website. That's all.

Sink or swim, just like all the rest of us have to do.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Lobbying money or not, either Trump or Sanders would make a situation for America too awful to contemplate. The road to Hell is the same whether it winds to the far right or to the far left!

a triumvirate of parties. i can dig it.

a reply to: kendix1960

It's already too awful to stand. People are fed up with the status quo. Establishment types are being told, "Talk to the hand, I'm listening to this guy over here. ANY plan is better than this mess."

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: rickymouse

Unfortunately, there are far too many out there who are simply afraid of the truth!

Unfortunately, there are far too many out there that wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass.

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
Marcus Aurelius

a reply to: olaru12

Marcus Aurelius was a great Roman leader and emperor far ahead of his time. It seems we never listen until its too late. That has to stop!

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: olaru12

Marcus Aurelius was a great Roman leader and emperor far ahead of his time. It seems we never listen until its too late. That has to stop!

I used that quote to illustrate that you don't have anymore perception of the TRUTH than anyone else; with your arrogant,know it all, right wing slant on things.

Nor do I.... perception from our environment isn't always accurate.

I kind of like the Bernie Party. The "establishment" of both democrats and republicans can keep their party.

a reply to: olaru12

I have a centrist slant on things, arrogance is something I never relate to , and like all of us, I have much to learn and try to keep my mind open to new ideas whenever and however I can. Truth is a many sided prism and no one has a corner on that market. Not you and not me.

a reply to: MOMof3

We simply don't agree regarding Bernie, but I respect opinions that differ from my own as long as those opinions are well considered and contemplated. Thanks for your participation The more the merrier.

What we need is an extreme party. A party that recognizes the extreme stances of both the right and the left. We have so much down the middle that nothing can be done. huge compromises to placate both sides is the current paradigm. The problems the country face are extreme. The proper solutions generally consist of the extreme points of both parties. We need to be very socialistic when it comes to the fundamental needs of the citizens. Utilities, communication, energy, healthcare, highway infrastructure, basic education should all be dealt with from a very left stance. Everything else should be governed by a very right stance methodology. You want things you don't necessarily need? You better be willing to work and compete for those.

The last thing we need is more moderates.

a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

We've had far too much extremism. Nothing good has ever come from it, whether the extremism comes from the far left or from the far right. History has taught that lesson countless times.

While I agree with the OP that the labels designated to candidates or particular parties is not helpful and counterproductive to the overall debate that we should be having, I don't think that creating a new party with the name "Independent" "Moderate" does much to eliminate the perception of these labels. It actually convolutes things even more as most critically thinking adult humans do not subscribe to every single "liberal" position , "conservative" position, or even "moderate" position.

I consider myself to be fairly moderate in nature when it comes to most issues we face today. However, when it comes to issues of sociology and domestic policies I tend to lean more to the liberal spectrum but when dealing with economic or global security standpoint I believe in a more conservative approach. I do not vote for candidates along a particular party line but instead assess the reliability of each candidate based on their past merits and stated position on an issue.

I think if people were to stop using these labels as a crutch to help them decide which direction they want to see society move, and instead do some reading and research, that the labels we speak of will become obsolete.

So how about we create a new party called the "American Critical Thinkers" party?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I think we should do away with lobbying, superPACs, and private campaign funding altogether. All taxpayers pledge the $3 to Presidential Election Fund (which is already in the tax code - you can choose to do so or not) - so - we all do it, and whatever money that adds up to gets split evenly between all candidates.

That's all they get. They also get a pre-determined allotment of air-time to speak their piece (donated by the media outlets) - and maybe a free website. That's all.

Sink or swim, just like all the rest of us have to do.

I agree.

I love your idea. This is the way our elections should be.

a reply to: beyondtruth

I agree with you in principle, but until more people try critical thinking for themselves, I think we need to do something to eliminate the false labels. At this point in time, I believe my proposal would help in this effort, and reduce some of the confusion.

a reply to: kendix1960


How about "The refugee for president party"

Veterans party of America is one of the fastest growing third party in the country, and instead of fighting a useless battle in the courts they are just focusing on getting the 5% in a presidential election that will lock them in as a party on equal footing with the 2 that have wrecked our nation.