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Judge rules against Justice Dept. in Fast and Furious fight

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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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The Obama Administration and former Attorney General Eric Holder were handed another defeat from a Federal Judge about the famous Fast & Furious government gun running scandal.

They claimed "Executive Privilege" when Congress asked for details about the boondoggle.

Holder was especially arrogant and conceited in front of Congress.

Now they must release all the documents.

But I think the damage is already done, and I bet the information might be heavily ""edited"" now.

Fail all the way around.

Judge rules against Justice Dept. in Fast and Furious fight


A federal judge has rejected the Justice Department's claim of executive privilege used to withhold documents tied to the Fast and Furious "gun-walking" scandal from release to a congressional committee.

House Republicans subpoenaed thousands of emails related to the operation and sued in federal court to obtain them.

In her decision on Tuesday, Judge Amy Berman Jackson rejected the department's blanket assertion of executive privilege, saying much of the withheld information had already been disclosed through other channels.


What ARE They Covering Up?






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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Expect "documents" to be lost, shredded and hard drives wiped.


Nobody gets prosecuted, goes to jail, or looses their pensions when they commit blatant criminal wrong doing so why not?
edit on 20-1-2016 by infolurker because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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Pretty sure they don't want this known either.

www.foxnews.com... tml



Rifle capable of taking down helicopter found at 'El Chapo' hideout purchased through Fast and Furious program


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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: xuenchen

Expect "documents" to be lost, shredded and hard drives wiped.


Nobody gets prosecuted, goes to jail, or looses their pensions when they commit blatant criminal wrong doing so why not?


ugh, frickin sickening. I really hope they don't "lose" any documents. losing their pensions would be OUT OF THE QUESTION... sleezeballs






posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

wow, nice find. I'm sharing the hell outta that



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:11 AM
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With a presidential pardon just waiting in the wings for Hillary or anyone else that gets convicted of wrong doing in the last 8 years I doubt anything will come of the most illegal and down right dirty happenings; just another foot note in the court records. To big to fail and to connected to jail.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:20 AM
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Obama is so arrogant, he might do some "pre-trial pardons" like the other day with a couple Iranians.

Trash Administration this is.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Those Presidential pardons are the only thing protecting Obama and Co. from Hillary and others from implicating him.


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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The dictionary definition of hypocritical ulterior motive is a US government that's caught selling assault weapons to Mexican drug cartels and then coming onto TV crying like a bitch wanting to ban assault weapons for US citizens.

But hey, you just keep thinking about Sandy Hook OK.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 08:57 AM
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Wow...watching news...FOX just mentioned this 5th F&F (helicopter-killer rifle) weapon in El Chapo's hideout.
This story could have some legs.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Wow...watching news...FOX just mentioned this 5th F&F (helicopter-killer rifle) weapon in El Chapo's hideout.
This story could have some legs.


I'll be a monkey's uncle.

Time for some ISIS style "el-chopping".




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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Damn, thanks xuenchen! S+F

Expect something to distract us in the near future.




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Remember this one,

Fast and Furious weapon used Garland terrorist attack


Lone Wolf was known at the time by gun smugglers to be a store that would sell firearms illegally, according to a report by Richard Serrano with the Chicago Tribune. Nadir Soofi, one of the two terrorists killed during the attack in Garland, had a history of misdemeanor drug and assault charges, the Tribune reported. That could have made him ineligible to legally purchase a gun. While in the Lone Wolf store, Soofi allegedly fudged some facts on the federal firearms form required for gun purchases in a licensed gun store.

Unknown to Soofi, Lone Wolf was in the middle of a federal sting operation knows as Fast and Furious. The ATF program was aimed at Mexican drug lords and traffickers who were attempting to buy guns in the United States and move them to Mexico. The program went sideways when federal officials lost track of the firearms, many of which allegedly ended up in Mexico.

One of those weapons was found at the scene of the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Agent Terry was part of a Border Patrol team responding to the possible presence of Mexican bandits in southern Arizona. He was killed in an ensuing gunfight. One of the guns found at the scene was eventually traced to the Fast and Furious program.

When Soofi submitted the required form, the store contacted the FBI for a background check, according to the Tribune report. Serrano’s article cites a Los Angeles Times article that stated a seven-day hold was placed on the pistol Soofi was attempting to purchase. For reasons that have yet to be explained, that hod was released after one day and Soofi was reported to have left the store with the pistol.


I bet is more about the Fast and furious that the government doesn't want us to know.

www.fireandreamitchell.com...



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Aren't most "center fire" rifles capable of downing a helicopter? and again, depending on the helicopter.

I think 2016 is going to be the year of enlightenment worldwide, beginning with info just like this.

Star for you.
edit on 20-1-2016 by NewzNose because: typo



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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Aren't most "center fire" rifles capable of downing a helicopter?


The rifle recovered was a .50 BMG. One of the most common round these days is the 5.56, 30.06, .270, etc. They are nothing compared to the .50.
This is a 5.56 beside a round for the .50




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

Yep. Forget that it was thousands of Mexicans killed with the very guns delivered in to the hands of the cartels courtesy of Holder and Co. 26 white folks from Connecticut are far more precious. Want to talk about racism in action? Here it is, in spades. (no pun intended)

There are some crimes that should be beyond the reach of Presidential pardons.
When did that become law because it seems to me the perfect tool for getting your criminal partners out of jail.
Why abide by the law when the tip of a pen can make everything all better?
They still get to go home and enjoy all the loot that came from "government work" which now legally includes insider trading.
The corruption and lawlessness of our Federal institutions could hardly be shown more plainly.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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All the entities and people in charge should be jailed on conspiracy charges at the very least..they are complicit in murder on both sides of the border..I doubt the truth will be discovered..Im thinking "too big to fail" type deal will happen here..or who will fall on the sword for this very clearly criminal act/s?
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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: Sublimecraft

The corruption and lawlessness of our Federal institutions could hardly be shown more plainly.



And that my friend summarizes the states of affairs in our nation in modern America.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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Just heard El Chapo was found with a weapon from Fast and Furious.

You just wonder what they were thinking.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

It's pretty damn clear what the thinking was with this:
Make sure American guns get into the hands of Mexican criminals who will...not use them to hold up liquor stores...but will use them to kill in a horrific and newsworthy manner.
Then, collect the guns from amidst the carnage...hold a Presidential press conference...and shout from the podium: "LOOK HOW EASY IT IS FOR MEXICAN DRUG LORDS TO BUY AMERICAN WEAPONS...TAKE EM ACROSS THE BORDER AND KILL ALL THESE PEOPLE!"

This was a covert 'gun control' PR operation run from the Obama White house. They wanted these guns to kill enough people to make the news...trace them back to the U.S....and use the news to call for gun control of sales of guns in the U.S.
F&F doesn't just stand for Fast & Furious...it also stands for False Flag!

THIS is why Obama didn't want to release the files of this operation...and why they had to be legally forced.




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