The Apostle Paul, A Man Used of God

Im not this gnosis, im using his device on my own account.

Check my email info if you want.

If I had been stating just my opinion, why is everything I said backed up by scripture?

a reply to: Akragon

He just admitted to using the same IP as Gnosis but a different email. Interesting to see what the Mods will do now.

It is the same person

a reply to: Essene616

what scripture you haven't posted any.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Perhaps instead of just knocking peoples posts you could prove them wrong?

Enlightened1 has a few posts on paul... Prove your beliefs about paul via scripture

Anyone who wants to debunk anything I said try it. It's all facts. Everything I said is in the bible, I didn't make anything up. If you know the bible, you know I am telling it as it occurred, no variations. Pure facts. If you give me an instance ill getcthe verse and we can go from there.

a reply to: Akragon

there hasn't been any text presented so we can put it in context. I am waiting for that.

and as for the Apostle issue I asked a question to that one person to see if they could tell me when Jesus became an apostle and how.

Still waiting on their answer.

I haven't really got any whim to work against them unless they quote scripture.

Opinons are like the wind they blow hard but eventually die down. Once scriptures is presented then we can go to context and prove what is really being taught compared to what their opinion teaches.

I would hope they would keep it to one point at a time. It is hard to keep up.

Especially with a post bomber like Gnosisisfaith/Essense616

did you get my PM?

I am not the same person.

I have a right to use other people's stuff. Im homeless and don't have anything of my own

a reply to: ChesterJohnwhat do you want to know? Tell me and I will get you the verse

a reply to: Essene616

yeah right, you are not being forth coming now are you Gnosis/Essense and therefore your whole line about Paul will fall because your character is now in question.

a reply to: Essene616

you made claims now back them up with scripture.

I don't want to know anything.

a reply to: ChesterJohn
I offered to prove my point. Tell me what part of what I said and I will show you where it is.

Id be happy to supply scripture if you specify which of the many facts I spoke of

originally posted by: Essene616
Paul actually does lie in the new testament often. He was given a messages from the Apostles themselves to deliver to the gentiles, an easy way for them to live. 4 simple suggestions. He never delivers the message to them, and states they only said to help the poor. That's a lie.

here we have the book of acts stating that the elders in Jerusalem sent Paul out with a letter.

Acts 15:6 ¶ And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
22 ¶ Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:
31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.

here it is said that Paul delivered those decrees.

Acts 16:1 ¶ Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:
2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium.
3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.
4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Actually you made claims... Although they are general christian claims...

But the point of this thread was to show that Paul was authentic...

Your job it to defend that position... Despite oposition

a reply to: Akragon

13 books of the New Testament show Paul was Authentic.

And all most have are out of context verses and opinions to say otherwise.

a reply to: ChesterJohn
Acts 22 is the start of that story. Read until Paul returns to the gentiles and seevif he delivers the message. He doesn't. He says all they said was give to the poor. Which is a lie.

a reply to: ChesterJohn
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