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CitiGroup: The End of Pax Americana, With No Replacement in Sight.

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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Yes I agree, US is not longer the sole power player in the global world of finances, the 2008 market collapse told the story very well, when US went down so the rest of the countries that were tied to our economy and the markets.

Now with emerging economies propped by the US due to the greed of those that believe US tentacles should be every where, things are not going to be easily controlled, after all emerging economies do have a mind of their own, the more money in the hands of their emerging elites the more they can play around.

But I got the feeling that they still need US markets support for them to thrive.




posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: yesyesyes

There is nothing captalist about these banks.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Things ought to cost what they cost, and that cost should never change. Gas should be the same price everywhere, no one ought to be getting a better or worse deal on it. Bread and milk, all foodstuffs, drinks, everything should have a worth which is decided on, clad in iron, and prevented from ever changing so that we can get USED to it and have some ability to plan our lives decades ahead of time.



Whilst I understand the sentiment of your post, how could you recognise the scarcity or depletion of a given resource if it's value was static? It's just not going to happen?



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

If this analysis is correct, then we are in for a great deal of upheaval that hasn't been seen since the collapse of Rome. Someone else may fill in those shoes and we would see something similar to the collapse of Pax Britannica--bad but not complete global turmoil. I'm not entirely sure I would count out the Leviathan that is The United States just yet though. It may get bumpy and scary, but with the military might the U.S. can bring to the table this may just be a reset, but we'll see if the U.S. can adapt; so far we haven't been very good at it.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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it's high time the rest of the world grew up and wiped its own ass


a reply to: thebeanofbeans



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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Pax Americana should be read more like Pax - those guys, you know .. *all those guys*, the world government (not just the U.S.).

Strong arming the world will likely be met with an appropriate response.


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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: CranialSponge

The problem is that the "new and improved system" the elites have in mind will be nothing but a global socialist/fascist regime in control of everything. It will be nothing good for us plebeians.

Gerald Celente, one of the American trend forecasters has this to say.


...
“Rarely do I ever put a date on market crashes. I did it in 1987 when I forecast the 1987 stock market crash — that was in the Wall Street Journal. I also forecast the ‘Panic of 2008,’ and the ‘dot-com bust’ in October of 1999, when I said it (the dot-com mania) would fail in the second quarter of 2000.

Eric, I’m now predicting that we are going to see a global stock market crash before the end of the year. It’s not only going to be the Dow, its going to be the DAX, the FTSE, the CAC, Shanghai, and the Nikkei. There’s going to be panic on the streets from Wall Street to Shanghai and from the UK down to Brazil. You are going to see one market after another begin to collapse.”

Eric King: “Gerald, this is unfolding in waves. The Dow immediately plunged 2,500 points right after you made that prediction. We then saw a failed rally and now the global stock market carnage is picking up steam to the downside, exactly as you predicted.”

Gerald Celente: “That’s right, Eric, and the mainstream media is downplaying this by blaming the carnage on China and commodities. This financial crisis is much bigger than that. This is a global meltdown and it’s just getting started. It will bring some countries to their knees before this is over. The global stress is beyond comprehension for most people and those who dont prepare for the worst risk losing everything…
...


kingworldnews.com...


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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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So, no need to fear what's up with the global fundamentals....when we left the gold standard completely in 70-80......we had 10 years before the fall.....somehow computers let it go longer.....computers in the market.....Greenspan did a program back in the 60's, that's how he got noticed as a fit for the falsework to be done....My mom the artist....she did oils even like real....she had a drawing on the wall framed since day one....everywhere we moved it followed......said keep smiling ...have faith

edit on 20-1-2016 by GBP/JPY because: our new King.....He comes right after a nicely done fake one

edit on 20-1-2016 by GBP/JPY because: last minute thought there....yezz



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Willtell

Before that it was the UK. The world wars were basically born out of the collapse of the British Empire and the power vacuum that left.

Consider that before you sound off.

The next global conflicts are likely to be nuclear.



With all due respect I would disagree that the World wars were fought over the collapse, or as you say born out of the collapse of the British Empire

WWI actually had more to do with the collapse of the Austrian Hungry Empire or what is known as the central powers and of course other issues but not the collapse necessarily of the BE.


WWII was fought over the decline of Germany through the reparations that were forced on them over WWI, as well the aggression of Hitler, according to conventional history.


The US was the great benefactor of the decline of the British Empire after WWII since the other powers were beaten down so bad after WWII.

America filled that vacuum

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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

To me it honestly reads as if to say, "Our Globalist Con Game of Super Monopoly is about to collapse and it's going to be Game Over for Everyone. This will be Chaos as everyone then will be out of our control and will start creating their own Games to play instead. At the same time, the disruption in our plans of World Order will create anger and dismay in many who will then look for someone to blame which will fall upon us banksters and rightfully so. Having lost our control we will also lose the power to stop these vengeful mobs and what they may have in plan for us and others."

While I agree that this will be a very messy, violent and destructive future for us all should it happen. All I can say to these "Banksters" turned "Doom Prophets" is "Yeah, well you made the game and set the rules. What did you think was going to happen??? Maybe next time you decide to control the world with you're BS you should come up with some BS that doesn't end so horribly. Either that, or make the rules so that the game continues indefinitely with a more even distribution of "shoots and ladders" so the game isn't so one sided. Welcome to the Reality you created. Game Over."



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 03:23 AM
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I don't see this as 'actual' paniic at all, the banks are not worried in the slightest.

This is just all part of the plan, it is just laying the seeds for what they want to happen next. they infer that Pax Americana is failing, the terrorist threat and the migrant crisis cannot be stopped... Doom dooooom dooooooooooom, we need a solution, now. And what will be their solution? Simple really A One World Goverment, Why folks with a one world goverment they will be able to stop all of these crisis's happening, they will be able to protect the middle classes, prevent terrorist attacks and the so called black swan events, oh they are so kind to us, so thoughtful, so caring and always have our best interests at heart.... Yeah right.

There is only one real solution to these problems, that is to take all these banksters and their paid for and owned politicians and string them up from the nearest lamp post, reset the system. Not that it will happen of course, were all to entrenched, to relient on on their so called corporate world



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 09:50 AM
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Corporations have already replaced the supremacy of nation states across several countries globally. Shadowy "security companies" or mercenary groups are already fighting private wars in various hot spots.

With an unraveling financial crisis and upheaval of current geopolitical order, it seems very likely that trans-national organizations and several coalitions/groups of nations would be driving the future agenda.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

"... ending globalization in the process"

I'm not seeing the down side there.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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Our economic model is based entirely upon growth and debt. Without growth there are no new loans and no new debt. The upper crust has hoovered all the disposable income available up from the middle class which was the driver of the post-Bretton Woods economy. Now the elites have tens of trillions of $ doing nothing but sitting in bank vaults.

Had the value of the workers been recognized and raises given to keep up with inflation there would still be consumers left to buy things like cars and houses which is where the banks make their money. Now the rich are sitting on the dragon's hoard of the world's riches crying because they can't accumulate more. They sucked the golden goose dry now the whole system is ready to implode due to their greed. Their biggest worries are how can they avoid the social chaos that's due to follow an economic collapse.

I would love for nothing more than to see them all trapped in their penthouse apartments wondering why nobody comes running to serve them when they ring their bell. If anyone deserves to suffer with the rest of us it's those elites who only took and never gave back. If even half the wealth they have were released back to the public they stole and swindled it from in the first place there would an economic boom. The elites have no one to blame but themselves. The only shame is their victims will once again be the first to suffer.
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posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: 0010110011101

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Things ought to cost what they cost, and that cost should never change. Gas should be the same price everywhere, no one ought to be getting a better or worse deal on it. Bread and milk, all foodstuffs, drinks, everything should have a worth which is decided on, clad in iron, and prevented from ever changing so that we can get USED to it and have some ability to plan our lives decades ahead of time.



Whilst I understand the sentiment of your post, how could you recognise the scarcity or depletion of a given resource if it's value was static? It's just not going to happen?

lol, this is why there can't actually be a real, functional economy under the controls of socialism or communism.

They always try to make 99% of the people work for the same minimum wage, and live with all the same products, homes, and services that are crap, but of course made by the govt owned (or at least totally controlled) producers.

Valueless everything is destined to collapse into itself. Especially valueless lives and personalities, when religion and individual opinions are outlawed.

Socialism / communism can not exist without doing this. They can't / don't allow creativity, competition, winners, or profits.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse



The problem is that the "new and improved system" the elites have in mind will be nothing but a global socialist/fascist regime in control of everything. It will be nothing good for us plebeians.


Agreed.

We plebs have always gotten the crappy end of the stick since time immemorial... and paid for the whole shabang to boot.

We're the end users.

And as we all know, the end user is the one that pays all the bills.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 04:04 PM
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The only thing you can be sure of is socialism or communism being used solely to gain power and keep it forever.

Nobody's bringing perfect equality, happiness, and fairness on a global scale. Too damned much work.

All they want is global laws, global police, and global economy / labor. Traditional commies grab the first 2 items......RINO types grab the second pair.

Nobody's bringing marx's beautiful dream.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
Just a few days ago, CitiGroup released a new report that reads like an alarm klaxton sounding the end of the current geopolitical world order, with nothing but chaos to follow.......


..........and from the order becomes a New World Order.


It might be the end of Pax-Americana. But the beginning of the end for the USA was with the creation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913.

But from the rise of the British Empire, to American independence, Napoleonic wars, Two World Wars, the creation of Israel, the end of the British Empire, to begnining of American global hegemony and the end of American hegemony..... the Rothchild Banking Family has seen it alll, not only were they rich back then, but got richer and richer.



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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Good. I hope they are scared out of their minds. Let's Bern it all down and start over



posted on Jan, 21 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: stevieray
Socialism / communism can not exist without doing this. They can't / don't allow creativity, competition, winners, or profits.


Actually, throughout the 50's-80's the USSR and in particular the Germans had the highest quality of goods on the planet. This is because their supply lines were so inefficient that scarcity forced them into producing higher quality products. Capitalism on the other hand creates very robust supply lines to the point where scarcity isn't really an issue, this in turn leads to wasteful practices like planned obsolescence where we create an inferior good by design in order to generate more profit through future sales.



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