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William Thomas' Chemtrail Lie Exposed

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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TerryDon79


You do know there's a difference between jet exhaust and what people think are chemtrails?

You do realize the compounds in jet exhaust are comprised of… chemicals?


If you're going to reply to my post at least read all of it.

I did.


"Chemtrails" are supposed to be some other weird and wonderful chemicals that our governments are supposed to be spraying on it citizens

Thats manufactured BS to put people off the real pollution problem.

"Mystery" spraying? The components of jet exhaust are well understood by the Airlines, Aircraft and Jet Fuel industry.

Every time someone questions what they are seeing 'up there', they get "chem trailed" or "con trailed". The result of which makes people shrug and go do something else, the desired result.

Don't question or you'll get hammered.

See?




posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: intrptr


Lemmee get this straight it is 'invisible', and is pollution.

YES! Unless the water freezes with sufficient humidity already in the area to be seen.

What else do you *think* you would see?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation


The expected exhaust components from the combustion of hydrocarbons is not what the "chemtrail" theory is about.

Then why bring it up?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TerryDon79


You do know there's a difference between jet exhaust and what people think are chemtrails?

You do realize the compounds in jet exhaust are comprised of… chemicals?


If you're going to reply to my post at least read all of it.

I did.


"Chemtrails" are supposed to be some other weird and wonderful chemicals that our governments are supposed to be spraying on it citizens

Thats manufactured BS to put people off the real pollution problem.

"Mystery" spraying? The components of jet exhaust are well understood by the Airlines, Aircraft and Jet Fuel industry.

Every time someone questions what they are seeing 'up there', they get "chem trailed" or "con trailed". The result of which makes people shrug and go do something else, the desired result.

Don't question or you'll get hammered.

See?





What I find funny is what you have done TWICE. You have completely missed the middle part of my post. Here it is again.

The exhaust would be the chemicals and water particles after combustion has happened coming out of the exhaust.

No one is denying the pollution. Same as cars, ship, motorbikes etc. Anything that has a combustion engine.

What "chemtrail" believers think goes beyond simple pollution and you know it.

"Chemtrails" are supposed to contain OTHER chemicals NOT found in jet exhaust. Yet there is no proof of it, never has been any proof of it and never will be any proof of it as it's not happening.

Now Weather Manipulation is a whole other thing that "chemtrail" believers think are to do with "chemtrails", but that is just plain wrong as weather manipulation is well known and well documented and accepted as fact by EVERYONE.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Water vapor only becomes visible because it condenses on particulates sufficiently enough to become visible to the naked eye. Thats how visible clouds form.

If there was no particulates in jet exhaust we wouldn't see persistency in the vapor trails behind jet engines in the stratosphere.

edit on 19-1-2016 by intrptr because: spelling as ususal



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79


The exhaust would be the chemicals and water particles after combustion has happened coming out of the exhaust.

Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Water vapor only becomes visible because it condenses on particulates sufficiently enough to become visible to the naked eye. Thats how visible clouds form.

If there was no particulates in jet exhaust we wouldn't see persistency in the vapor trails behind jet engines in the stratosphere.


Contrails can form without jet exhaust too. You know what they're called? Clouds.

You can get them coming from wing tips of unpowered gliders and parachutes (doesn't happen often though).

I'm pretty sure clouds formed way before man was ever around to create pollution too.

The whole "chemtrail" argument is flawed in so many ways it is laughable.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


Once the water condenses on particles it freezes at altitude, yes.
At the core of every ice particle is a chemical compound from jet exhaust.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


Once the water condenses on particles it freezes at altitude, yes.
At the core of every ice particle is a chemical compound from jet exhaust.


Damn.

I'm never having ice in my drinks again.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


Once the water condenses on particles it freezes at altitude, yes.
At the core of every ice particle is a chemical compound from jet exhaust.


Damn.

I'm never having ice in my drinks again.

Condensed from jet exhaust… whats that drink called?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


A demonstration and explanation of that point



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

Sorry, was trying to be funny. You know, HaHa?

Anyway. What exactly is it you're arguing?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: DenyObfuscation

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


A demonstration and explanation of that point


I've seen similar videos to that before. Have you seen the one where they pour the water out of a bottle and it turns into a slushy type of thing after it hit a surface?

Science!



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor only becomes visible because it condenses on particulates sufficiently enough to become visible to the naked eye. Thats how visible clouds form.

Usually. It's still only the water (ice) that's visible.

This post still fails:

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DJW001


Because you say so? You are being lied to. I just pointed one such lie out to you.

You mean jet exhaust doesn't block the suns light and pollute the Earth?

Glad thats settled.


actually no, and yes. jet exhaust is invisible. So it doesn't block jack #. But it is pollution…


Lemmee get this straight it is 'invisible', and is pollution.

The chemicals (in trail) denier dichotomy, got it.







posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


A demonstration and explanation of that point


I've seen similar videos to that before. Have you seen the one where they pour the water out of a bottle and it turns into a slushy type of thing after it hit a surface?

Science!

Yeah this one's supercool too



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: DenyObfuscation

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr


Water vapor condenses on particulates 'coming out', yes.


Particulates are not necessary for water droplets to form, just ice crystals.


A demonstration and explanation of that point


I've seen similar videos to that before. Have you seen the one where they pour the water out of a bottle and it turns into a slushy type of thing after it hit a surface?

Science!

Yeah this one's supercool too


That's the one I was on about.

Pretty cool. (pun intended)
edit on 195919/1/1616 by TerryDon79 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79


Sorry, was trying to be funny. You know, HaHa?

So was I.

My opinion is that chemtrails, like 911 rubble, like the war on terror are disinfo campaigns, both sides of which are promoted by the gubment to keep people from getting at any real truth.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TerryDon79


Sorry, was trying to be funny. You know, HaHa?

So was I.

My opinion is that chemtrails, like 911 rubble, like the war on terror are disinfo campaigns, both sides of which are promoted by the gubment to keep people from getting at any real truth.





I don't get how "chemtrails" can be a disinformation campaign to distract from pollution as everyone knows planes cause pollution. That's a thing that is never denied. So I don't quite understand your logic on that one, sorry.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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Usually. It's still only the water (ice) that's visible.

Water molecules are too tiny to see with the naked eye. Water 'vapor' only becomes visible because the molecules of H20 aggregate on a particle of something, dust, smoke, and yes, pollution from jet engines. There are no catalytic converters on jet engines. If the fans are turning, hydrocarbons are burning, exhaust is churning on the taxi way, take off and at altitude.

Jet exhaust is much more polluting on the taxi way and take off, yet the arguments presented by both sides only address jet exhaust at altitude.

Theres your sign.



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