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19.6 Trillion Dollars in Tax Increases...Can you feel the "Bern" now?

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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I don't like to say anything good on behalf of Obama, but I must acknowledge that Bernie Sanders is even to the left of the president with the Sanders brand of rank socialism. We would no longer be the America of our founding fathers if somehow this fellow gets to the White House.




posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: KawRider9

We certainly are. Doesn't Sanders realize that small business is vital to the overall economy? Over tax and over regulate our entrepreneurs and the result is increased unemployment. It is the businessmen and the corporations that provide the jobs necessary to allow people to earn wages and support their families.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: eXia7

More taxes stifles investment, research and development, and, worst of all, it stifles ambition and incentive. Hey Bernie, wake up!



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

You bet. Tax and spend as an approach to governing just doesn't work in a society that values free enterprise and opportunity. All it does is strangle the economy and buries the country in a staggering debt cycle that will be passed along to our children and grandchildren for generations to come.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: kendix1960

This is a talking point I have heard verbatim a thousand times. If low taxes work, then what is the problem. Why is our infrastructure a global embarrassment and wages too low to live? They are not too damn high for years now. Our family writes a check to IRS every year and still live good. I did not live so good when I was working my butt off. I dont like paying taxes either, but I don't want to become the ME, where the only option for the young is to go to war. Who is going to pay for more bombs? Everyone with children need to remember Flint,MI and how far tax cutters will go to give to the rich.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: kendix1960

This is a talking point I have heard verbatim a thousand times. If low taxes work, then what is the problem. Why is our infrastructure a global embarrassment and wages too low to live? They are not too damn high for years now. Our family writes a check to IRS every year and still live good. I did not live so good when I was working my butt off. I dont like paying taxes either, but I don't want to become the ME, where the only option for the young is to go to war. Who is going to pay for more bombs? Everyone with children need to remember Flint,MI and how far tax cutters will go to give to the rich.


The problem is we have a congress that is pissing away the tax revenue on things that are outside the scope of the federal government. We also are spending too much money playing global cop policing savages around the world.

Wages are not too low to live.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

"Wages are not too low to live." Our friend who lost his retirement in 08, works 2 jobs, my daughter works two full time jobs. She starts at 6 in the morning and does not stop til 1130 at night. I am sure there are many on ATS experiencing the same thing. People like you keep telling us that what we live every day is either not true or we don't work hard enough. More talking points without solutions.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Where is it the job of the Govt to sustain people?

I am up at 6am, network engineer. Home at 5. Dinner, bath for the kids and then into my shop till around 1am.

You know what happens to about 30% of MY money??? Taxes. To give to people that either don't want to work, or don't do anything to improve their work life or career. ..

Stop complaining.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: macman

There are other ways of helping working people other than welfare. They need an even tax structure. Since the Reagan tax restructure, all the tax savings went to low income and the high income. They need access to education, not free, but not locked out just because of money. My son went to college is trying to start his own business because he knows what to do. Rent should not be dictated by the highest bidder. I wish capitalists would invest in affordable housing and see it as a community improvement. I think there is a tax deduction for that.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Yes, we all know. More Progressive and Socialist ideals and programs to be lumped onto the existing failing crap.

Hey, how about this. Either a flat tax, you know, EVERYONE pays a flat percentage. Or a consumption tax.

Progressive ideals have worked to "lock" people out of college. Colleges right now, most being run by Progressives and Democrat friendly people are collecting record high tuition along with raking in huge profits from hedge funds.

And why should rent NOT be to the highest bidder? You claim your son is trying to start a business, but bemoan business. Should your son's business have price regulations just to be fair?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: macman

Show me where I said price regulations?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
Rent should not be dictated by the highest bidder.



How else do you arrive to this?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: macman
That is where investors come in. Like those people who are starting Tiny House villages. Ideas to help get off streets,tent cities,affordable rent for young families on the low end wages. I believe they could find some good tax deductions with such investments. I see where NY gives tax free zones to corps for starting a business,same principle could apply with housing.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: macman
You need better tax advice.



posted on Feb, 5 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

So long as the Govt is not involved, I am all for people doing these kind of things.

And don't you worry about my taxes. 30% is at the start.
I still pay too much in taxes.



posted on Feb, 5 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: macman

Yeah. maybe there is a Utopia out there where the citizens don't pay taxes cause there is no war, or poverty, and people fly, pee in the rivers.



posted on Feb, 5 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Utopia??? Not needed. All that is needed is a return back to the Constitution.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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19.6 Trillion Dollars in Tax Increases...Can you feel the "Bern" now?

So at the end of Sanders term(s).

The national debt would be over 40 trillion dollars?

I pass.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Under Sanders, we would no longer recognize America! Did this fellow ever even hear about something called the American Dream or the Land of free enterprise and opportunity? As Margaret Thatcher once said, what will he do after he spends all of our money and and then there is nothing left to spend ?



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: macman

You bet!!



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