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Denying Blindness - The reality of Donald Trump in 2016 General Election - Opening Eyes

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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I think you're going to be very surprised to see how much support Trump has. I own a business and talk to a lot of people every day, and the amont of folks behind Trump is staggering.

Hell, all the guys at the Union hall across the street from me have Trump bumper stickers and they were ALL huge Obama supporters.

Being a "right winger", people feel they need to come by the shop and talk politics around election time. Usually to belittle my conservative ways. I am floored at the amount of people behind Trump.




posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: KawRider9

And that's literally the only evidence that Trump supporters ever present. Anecdotal.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t
And.........don't forget the power of the Democrat controlled political "machines" in the Metro areas.

So....I see a real bad news set up going on here and its possible the MSM is inadvertently guilty of creating this problem with their 24/7 coverage of Trump. The bad news set up is that by their nature, the Trump supporters live in a self affirming world where they and their social circles honestly belief Trump can't lose to either Hillary or Sanders. So....when the election "results" are announced in favor of Hilary its going to be like Lucy moving the football on Charlie Brown.

So.....as we know, US elections have long been supported by the idea that the "losers" respect the result even though they may not agree with it, but........with this election, I have to wonder if that principle may not be thrown out altogether creating a genuine Constitutional crises with half the voters saying "hell no!"

And.......that situation would be magnified by orders of magnitude if Trump were to win! Its the ultimate lose/lose election either way it goes.

edit on 19-1-2016 by TonyS because: specificity



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:21 AM
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The GOP has been in denial since Trump entered the race on his ability to win their nomination. Now that the GOP is having to face the reality of that possibility it's the left's turn for denial.

In my forty years I've never known a GOP primary candidate to have the support from people I know who are members of staunch democratic constituencies that Trump has. The number of black people and union members I know who have ever told me that they would vote for a Republican against the presumptive Democratic nominee in prior cycles might as well have been zero. This cycle, the number of those folks saying they would vote for Trump against Hillary has been not just greater than zero, but enough for me to be truly surprised.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

You know, that actually seems like a likely scenario... Set yourself up for failure then blame the opposition for losing by using a preexisting conspiracy theory. You never have to hold yourself accountable for your own idiotic decision making process.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: jefwane

Same here. I am absolutely stunned at the amount of support Trump has from Very staunch democrats. I'm surrounded by Union businesses and for everyone I talk to, to be in support of Trump is very telling that EVERYONE is sick of the status quo.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:33 AM
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Diebold Voting machines will determine who wins



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I'm not going to bring pie charts or easily manipulated poll results to the conversation. I'm getting my information from the people speaking their minds. Call it anecdotal if ya want, but straight from the horses mouth seems a bit more believable than silly poll results.

All the Union folks who I SWORE would be behind Sanders, want nothing to do with him and it really surprises me.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Trump has not even started his campaign and he is on pace to win the nomination. I am not sure why so many of you are so against him. He is the only non-politically controlled person in the race. Most of the comments are about his hair, or how the hell will he build a wall or he was bankrupt with some companies.

Where as on the other side of the coin there is Hillary Clinton. Holy Hell where would you start and how could you end it. There is Bernie Sanders who is a proclaimed Socialist who wants to tax the rich and give away free stuff. That is basically his platform. He is a career politician who people are trying to label as Robin Hood. I cannot imagine him handling foreign policy let alone the keys to the WHite House.

There were tons of people who thought that there was no way a junior senator from Chicago, who was black with an Islamic name could be elected. TONS. He won twice. Granted, it was against candidates that should never have been nominated but there was no 'excitement' in those campaigns. There is now.

Turn a blind eye but remember everyone on August said he would be gone by November. He is getting better and better in each debate as he learns how politicians work.

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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: raypsi13
Diebold Voting machines will determine who wins


I am afraid you are right.

The Clinton's rarely leave anything to chance.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Trump has DEFINITELY started his campaign. Stop saying that. He is definitely in campaign mode.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: KawRider9

Polling is a science that gets more accurate the closer you get to election time. Anecdotes are the most useless form of evidence you can provide.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

IMO, The one and only thing you got right in your OP is the fact that America is angry.

Both, the Trump & Sanders campaigns are clear reflections of that fact.

While Americans are indeed angry, we're NOT mean or vindictive and Trump is the personification of both.

They say one of the biggest mistakes someone can make, is to underestimate their opponent and based on your post in this thread regarding the Sanders campaign, it's clear that you're doing just that.

Nobody, I repeat "NOBODY," beats Trump by bigger margins in any poll than Sanders!

There's nothing I'd like to see more than a matchup between Trump & Sanders.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: KawRider9

I'm not going to bring pie charts or easily manipulated poll results to the conversation. I'm getting my information from the people speaking their minds. Call it anecdotal if ya want, but straight from the horses mouth seems a bit more believable than silly poll results.

All the Union folks who I SWORE would be behind Sanders, want nothing to do with him and it really surprises me.


Here, let me change that up for you.

I'm a "union folk," (actually I'm 4th generation union folk) and I worked 33 yrs through one of our nation's larger multi-employer unions, (20+ yrs as a elected official/representative) and I fully support Bernie's campaign.

Now you've heard from a "union folk" who definitely want's "something to do with him."

Go Bernie!
edit on 19-1-2016 by Flatfish because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

I think your screen name is appropriate for the thread content.
Are you kidding me?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: KawRider9

And that's literally the only evidence that Trump supporters ever present. Anecdotal.


You must have an axe to grind or else have been cave-dwelling for the past 6 months. I've seen your thread activity in denying reality. The support for Donald Trump from your average American citizen is overwhelming. I'm not talking about "fringe elements", I'm talking about regular people. He strikes a chord with the heart of America. Those who would gleefully watch the destruction of this country would assassinate Trump the first chance they got. That, my friend, is the only thing that would deter Mr. Trump from being our next President.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: Flatfish
a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

IMO, The one and only thing you got right in your OP is the fact that America is angry.

Both, the Trump & Sanders campaigns are clear reflections of that fact.

While Americans are indeed angry, we're NOT mean or vindictive and Trump is the personification of both.

They say one of the biggest mistakes someone can make, is to underestimate their opponent and based on your post in this thread regarding the Sanders campaign, it's clear that you're doing just that.

Nobody, I repeat "NOBODY," beats Trump by bigger margins in any poll than Sanders!

There's nothing I'd like to see more than a matchup between Trump & Sanders.






The only one who continues to be under-estimated here is Donald Trump. He's not a Socialist lifetime politician like Sanders who has really nothing to offer unless you hate cops. That's where his anger is directed, as the spittle flies.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

He did not even spend a dime in 2015 and he polled 15-20 points over the next person. He has dribble out about 250k in ads in Iowa. GOP Big Boys have spent 200 million for a 3% return.

If you think the Trump campaign has started full on you are in for a surprise when it does....



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

Trump has no chance if he is against Sanders.

Trump will win if he is against Clinton.

Pretty simple.


That's what I thought. My analysis is changing. I now think Trump as a strong chance of winning the republican nomination. I think the top three are Trump, Cruz and Rubio, but Rubio isn't getting any exposure. He's going to sink fast, probably by design. Unless the election is rigged, and not just a little but hard, I think Sanders is going to blind side Hillary.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Flatfish

Sorry, but according to the latest Monmouth polling.

www.politico.com...



Slightly more than half—52 percent—said they backed Clinton, while 37 percent opted for Sanders, the first time that her advantage has been less than 20 points. In the university's December survey, Clinton held a substantially larger 33-point advantage over Sanders—59 percent to 26 percent. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley polled well within the margin of error, at 2 percent.
Asked who would have a better shot against Trump, 44 percent said Clinton would, while only 16 percent said the Vermont senator would have more of a chance. Meanwhile, 35 percent said they would have about an equal opportunity. In the case of Ted Cruz, 39 percent said Clinton would do better, compared to 17 percent for Sanders and 37 percent for both. Asked who would do better against Marco Rubio, 39 percent said Clinton would, 37 percent said they would have an equal shot and just 17 percent said Sanders would.
Sanders and his campaign have frequently pointed to past polls showing them performing better against Trump than Clinton to emphasize the point of electability. In contrast to the question posed in this poll, those questions have typically presented respondents with head-to-head matchups (for example, Sanders vs. Trump, Clinton vs. Trump) rather than asking which candidate would have a better shot at beating a given candidate.


Read more: www.politico.com...


Read Question #3

www.monmouth.edu...




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