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Yosemite National Park to change names of iconic structures

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posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 05:36 AM
What PC correctness? Nope. Alleged Trade Mark issues.

A few of the iconic structures and sites at Yosemite National Park are being renamed due to a legal battle over trademarks, the National Park Service said.

In one move, The Ahwahnee Hotel, built in 1927 and a National Historic Landmark in the Yosemite Valley, will have its exotic-sounding name changed to The Majestic Yosemite Hotel
The Park Service says Delaware North claims ownership of some of the park's tradenames and trademarks, and is demanding more than $50 million in compensation for the rights to those names.
Delaware North said in a statement that the Park Service "is trying to use them (beloved names of places in Yosemite) as a bargaining chip in a legal dispute involving basic contract rights.
Yosemite spokesman Scott Gediman told CNN affiliate KFSN, "the names of the structures belong to the American people... and Delaware North is not entitled to any compensation."


What can be said. The insanity of greed has reached another level. I would have thought either the mark would not be issued or would have no bearing in this usage. Who controls the marks, oh right, the US government.

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 05:40 AM
a reply to: roadgravel

Wow and I thought I had heard some stupid stuff but this takes the prize! That's just silly??

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 05:53 AM
a reply to: roadgravel

I don't think it's greed when you read the other article about DNCY

Yosemite Concessionaire has offered National Park Service free use of Yosemite trademark names during legal dispute

The NPS in 1993 required DNCY, as the new concessionaire at Yosemite, to purchase the assets of the previous concessionaire, including its intellectual property, at a cost of $115 million in today's dollars along with the assumption of $40 million in liabilities. That included several valuable trademarked names such as The Ahwahnee. In turn, the DNCY contract requires the NPS to have the new concessionaire buy all of DNCY's property, including its intellectual property. The NPS recently reaffirmed this in a December 29, 2015 letter from the U.S. Department of the Interior (retracting NPS's earlier position that intellectual property was not included).

Seems like they're applying the "fairness" that was applied to them

And it seems like the Park Service is at fault here

The National Park Service has repeatedly flip-flopped on the issue of intellectual property. During the RFP process, it at first completely ignored the issue. Then in December 2014 NPS notified all potential bidders that the new concessionaire would be required to purchase the intangible assets of the existing concessionaire, DNCY. Then, after more than eight months and after selecting Aramark for the award, in August 2015 NPS sent a letter to DNCY stating that it had decided that it wouldn't require the winning bidder to purchase the intangible assets. Four months later on December 29, 2015 (and after DNCY commenced litigation over the issue), NPS retracted its August, 2015 letter and reaffirmed that the winning bidder must purchase intangible assets such as trademarks, customer database, and domain names from DNCY.

All sounds stupid really though, why does the park service need a concessionaire and just do that job itself ?

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 05:56 AM
a reply to: roadgravel
This reminds me of the earlier dispute between Victoria Beckham and Peterborough United Football Club over ownership of the nickname "Posh".

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 05:58 AM
That there's any dispute at all reflects poorly upon the entirety of both parties...


posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 06:13 AM
The government has become a pawn in the private business money making adventure at the park.

Time for the USA USA chant.

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 07:06 AM
When I first heard about this, I almost spilled the coffee in my Ahwahnee mug! I thought, The new names sound like some Chinese company just bought Yosemite!

Ok, this is all about a court dispute, with the NPS declaring the value of the names has been vastly over inflated by DNC, which DNC denies.

Although the name change may increase the government's leverage by slashing the value of the disputed marks, it certainly won't help the businesses that have already printed guides and souvenirs, nor mollify angry visitors caught in a commercial war over the landmarks they love. But the National Park Service sees it as only a temporary adjustment, and hopes to restore the original names once the lawsuit is resolved.

The principle here is clear. Trademarks over the names and other intrinsic features of iconic destinations such as The Ahwahnee should benefit the owners of those destinations — the taxpayers. Ideally, the government would own these marks, and it could license them to concessions operators for the duration of their contracts. That's the direction the Park Service is heading in its new contract with Aramark, but sadly not the path the government followed in its dealings with Delaware North.


but, as indicated in the above second paragraph, it's also more....

In its response filed Monday, the Justice Department said Delaware North, beginning in 2002, quietly has attempted to trademark the phrase “Yosemite National Park” and several names of the venues at the park, saying it is part of an apparent “business model” of the company to collect trademarks of notable United States properties where Delaware North holds the concessions.


I guess arrangements that used to work decades ago with park names no longer work in this day and age of everything having a price for sale. Big names, big data ..... all to own and sell

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 07:51 AM

Who controls the marks

the attorneys love this sort of stuff, win or lose they get rich , in other words, expect the mockery of the rule of law too continue as long as attorneys make up the majority of the elected officials ..

Copyright trolls

Patent trolls

opportunistic (individuals/companys/attorneys) that aggressively pursue potential trademark/copyright/patent violations for purposes of making money through litigation, generally without any intension of producing or licensing those materials.

edit on 18-1-2016 by AttitudeProblem because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 08:00 AM
a reply to: desert

Privatizing public parks… fair game for exploitation by mega corp., USA.

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 03:08 PM
a reply to: intrptr

Yes. And wait till other countries are caught up in intellectual property claims. China loses "The Great Wall of China", India the "Taj Majal", Egypt its pyramid names, Israel all those names of sites of religious significance, Mecca the Ka'aba. Hmmmmm, I wonder how much the name "God" is worth and who owns it?

posted on Jan, 18 2016 @ 03:19 PM
a reply to: desert

Can't sell tourist tickets to God, he's not marketable.

Further: Who would buy a ticket to see God?

You have reservations on flight 227 out of LA to see "God". Your flight leaves in 30 minutes.
That will be 1700.00 for three days and nights.
edit on 18-1-2016 by intrptr because: Further:

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