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The 62 richest people have as much wealth as half the world

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posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: TheBandit795

How is the QoL looking for their middle class/poor?




posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: saadad

The day that happens is the day I intimately acquaint myself with a sniper rifle.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Bill Gates has earned every cent of his wealth based on the immense value he has delivered to us all.


Don't get me started there, as we'd need to move this thread to the "rant" forum otherwise. If Bill had been payed for the effort he has put into building software, he would have made a few hundred thousands of dollars at best. He actually programmed for just a few years, between his 13th and 18th. If Bill had been payed for the effort he put in his formal education, he'd gotten nothing (he was a Harvard drop out at best). He did work hard for about 10 years, but in those years he was mainly checking other programmers work and initiating business deals to get hold of other companies code (and sell it as his own). How did Bill "make" all that money then? Simple: by cleverly stealing other folks ideas, selling stuff he did not have yet, buying other folks ideas and reselling them.

Graphical user interfaces? Xerox invented these. DOS? Bought. Mouse? Xerox again. Internet? Oh, come on, Gates did not even see the potential. Unix? Well, - yes actually, they were quite succesful with that - until they decided to go for the DOS market, with ignorant users that weren't able to judge the quality of the junk sold to them.

Microsoft alone was the main reason computer users dumbed down (and are mostly still dumbed down) by the masses. By lowering standards from multi-user, multi-tasking (Unix in 1980!) to single-user, single-program, single-tasking (DOS in 1983), they set back the norm to the stone age. The only reason was they did not want to pay AT&T the money, and had been able to buy PC-DOS for just 100K$, hence they simply made more money by selling a backwards stupid product than a half decent OS.

Actually, Microsoft is quite a good example of pigs, monkeys and apes running a company. They are very good at making money and living proof that the system is flawed, including mandatory sales of their junk on each system.

(Nope, not running it here, and never will).



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 07:20 AM
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That's sickening. I've known for sometime that there's plenty of ultra rich people out there, but that just illuminates it even more.

Sure, if you own a large company, should you be granted a higher salary? I'd say yes. If you have worked long and hard, and invested a lot of time and work into a company/business, you should be given more perks and wealth. People should be awarded for hard work and determination. And I'm all for that. I won't deny that.

But, it's inexcusable to be paid insanely larger amounts than your fellow man. These guys make hundreds of millions, even billions a year, when some people live off of a few bucks a day. There's no excuse for this to happen whatsoever. I hear people say "Well, they worked hard and long, went to college, and did very well in the process, et cetera, et cetera." I don't give a damn frankly. You'd better be literally working yourself to the brink of near death daily for me to consider someone being paid large amounts like that. And not amounts of that enormous magnitude either.

It has nothing to do with how hard they work, or how educated they may be. Hell, even the most brilliant mathematicians, scholars, and scientists aren't paid anywhere close to these people. And they've devoted their lives to education and hard work. While typically doing so in a not so selfish manner.

Something needs to be done about these people one way or the other. Excessive compulsive hoarding of money, and the acceptance of ultra greed has been one of the most devastating things to have ever plagued humanity.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: Staroth
a reply to: theantediluvian

And they are what keeps us all going. Without them and their money there would be no us. No food, no business, no cloths, no health care, nothing!


This is not uncommon to hear, but it is beyond the stupidest thing that is ever said about the have's and have not's.

Without money, we would still afford food, health care, clothes, etc., because we would still have the resources to attain that quality of life. Especially NOW in terms of what technology already exists. Everyone seems to forget about the fact that yes, perhaps money does, or DID, play a role in pushing human ingenuity to the level we now see, but it will not take us any further into the future we want. Which is I assume a future where everyone has the ability and choice to at least obtain a modern living standard, that equal to the middle class of a developed nation.

Money is NOT real, in terms of it actually being something of true value. Can you sustain life without it? YES. At the very least it's paper/ binary digits. And at best it's gold, which is still quite useless in terms of providing what is needed for life to be sustained.

Much like inches or Celsius, money is a man made system of measurement used to measure the purchasing power of the individual.

So, in terms of what an economic depression (not enough money for everyone) of the 1920's looks like relating to inches, is that everyone showed up to the construction site with their tools and supplies, but the house couldn't be built because they didn't have enough inches.

I'm not saying the monetary economic system doesn't work. It clearly does. But it clearly consolidates half of the worlds purchasing power to 62 people.

If you would rather live in a society ruled by, in all likelihood; criminals, thugs and money-men...then be my guest. Personally I'd rather be truly free and not bonded to false idols though.

edit on thpamTue, 19 Jan 2016 07:53:53 -0600k1601America/Chicago1953 by Sparkymedic because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

I read somewhere, maybe from a thread here on ats, that the serfs, as far as hours worked per year, had it way better than us. The gist as far as I remember being that they were only required to work the land during farming season and having the rest of the time off to do whatever. Of course they would probably have no financial ability to do much, and a noble could come along and take your wife or daughter as his own wife or mistress. So its hard to argue that they had it better than us, but apparently they had at least about half the year off to do as they pleased and didn't have to worry about becoming homeless or starving...

Also, I was finishing reading Behold A Pale Horse by Bill Cooper, and in the Appendix is the full version of the "Protocols of Zion" which I had never seen before. (I had only ever seen the list with a short one or two sentence summary of each "Protocol", but in reality each one is several large paragraphs) Yes, I know its supposedly debunked, but nevertheless it seems to paint an accurate picture of our world today, whoever is behind it... (Cooper says to replace "Zion" with "Sion", "Jews" with "Illuminati", and "Goyim" with "Cattle", claiming that the Jews were used as a scapegoat for misdirection when the document was first released. I'm not sure what to think about that, it makes sense in a way, but in some ways which I won't go into here for the sake of brevity, it does not make sense to me, but anyway...)

The point is, the author/narrator of the document, in one of the 1st four Protocols I believe, claims an enormous victory for their side when they successfully destroyed the aristocracy class, claiming that, when the nobles were in charge, they had a vested interest in making sure that the working class were strong, well fed, and healthy, while the "Elders of Zion", who were now apparently in charge, wanted the exact opposite. The example of the French Revolution was specifically mentioned in the "Protocols" as being an act devised by the "Elders".

Just remembered that extra little tidbit while pondering the situation of the Serfs and the Feudal System. I guess we don't really know what it was like because we were not there, and all we have from that time are the writings available to us, which could very well be just the ones "they" want us to see. The victor writes the history books and all...



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: Sparkymedic

Hey!

I love your construction site analogy. Did you make that up on your own? Just curious.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: 3n19m470

At least one history text says that the serfs worked an average of 4 hours per day.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: Honcho




Something needs to be done about these people one way or the other. Excessive compulsive hoarding of money, and the acceptance of ultra greed has been one of the most devastating things to have ever plagued humanity.


Absolutely. I'm right there with you my friend. Can't these people see that they are self cannibalizing the very civilization which they enjoy? If this keeps up any longer we will have a total system collapse, and a full scale worldwide rebellion. And not necessarily in that order.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: saadad

The day that happens is the day I intimately acquaint myself with a sniper rifle.


But by then it might be too late. "God" will likely have the ultimate surveillance system on all us proletariats, 1984 style, and firearms in the hands of citizens will be a thing of the past.

I guess what I'm saying, albeit in a roundabout way, is...

Why wait?

My suggestion is merely to "intimately acquaint" yourself with one, just as you yourself said. As far as whether or not you use it, or how you use it, afterwards, well, that, is of course, entirely up to you...



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: 3n19m470

As much as the notion interests me, I am Australian. Obtaining one would be impossible. At best, a Vietnam War-era Bolt-Action is what I could strive for.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Sparkymedic

Hey!

I love your construction site analogy. Did you make that up on your own? Just curious.




Hell no I didn't! I'm no that smart! Alan Watts did. And he'd probably admit he got that from somewhere too.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

There is still inequality, but that is changing according to this pdf. (page 17)

www.imf.org...



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: Sparkymedic

originally posted by: Staroth
a reply to: theantediluvian

And they are what keeps us all going. Without them and their money there would be no us. No food, no business, no cloths, no health care, nothing!



I'm not saying the monetary economic system doesn't work. It clearly does. But it clearly consolidates half of the worlds purchasing power to 62 people.

If you would rather live in a society ruled by, in all likelihood; criminals, thugs and money-men...then be my guest. Personally I'd rather be truly free and not bonded to false idols though.


And this is how it does it.




posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:14 AM
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If you took all the money from the 62, and gave it to the lazy fools around the world, it would be back in the hands of the 62 in 5-10 years.

The lottery proves it every day. As do the NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB.

There's a reason that the 1% has all the money....they earned it, and they aren't idiots, lazy, or more into the booze, dope, and flesh than being productive.... like the majority of people on the globe.

That would be about it. Socialism and communism were invented out of pure jealousy and overriding laziness, people (marx) who needed an excuse for their sloth and a method to steal something back from the ambitious and smart.

I'm not one of the 1%, but I have worked for 40 years to build a comfy retirement and happy family. So as soon as the flotsam and jetsam of society steal everything from the truly rich, they'll be looking for me next.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Honcho

Isn't this how socialism starts?



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:23 AM
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Marxism and it's variants would have the same overall control in the hands of 62 uber-czars who run the communism / UN / Agenda 21 game.

Who would you rather have running things.....people who have actually proven that they can create, manage, and grow something.....or a bunch of fascist bureaucrats who got their positions & power by violence, nepotism, and dictatorial govt-power for life ?

For the latter, you have the sterling examples of USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, various hellholes in Africa, Venezuela, etc.

haha, best of luck with all that.



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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Although humans only need basic water food and shelter. You seem very dependent on other humans for your survival...?a reply to: Staroth



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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That would be about it. Socialism and communism were invented out of pure jealousy and overriding laziness, people (marx) who needed an excuse for their sloth and a method to steal something back from the ambitious and smart.


Yea he kind of had a history of being a moocher. LOL

"During the first half of the 1850s the Marx family lived in poverty in a three room flat in the Soho quarter of London. Marx and Jenny already had four children and two more were to follow. Of these only three survived. Marx's major source of income at this time was Engels who was trying a steadily increasing income from the family business in Manchester."



posted on Jan, 19 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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Yeah last I heard people like me, ems worker, and the rest of the world keep everyday life going. The elite? Trust me, we'd still function and perform without them. a reply to: CharlieSpeirs



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