Sanders vs. Trump the Election of the Century

originally posted by: AlienView

And who do you think will win ? I say it will be close - What do you think

I think it will be Cruz vs. Clinton.

a reply to: schuyler

Can we write in M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction) then? Cause if that happens then it appears we either really did learn nothing or really don't have any control. Either way, stick a fork in me cause I'm done.

Well no... I'll give that scenario one thing, it could have been Jeb and Hillary which make us even more in need of annihilation...

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: xuenchen


If someone claims these multi-generational tit-suckers exist, then we need to know where.

So - yes, if you can pinpoint the "specific partisan voting pockets", please do so. Then we'll know which communities need the first aid......

Any Democrat controlled inner city to start. And they've been getting "first aid" since the war on poverty began. We spend one trillion dollars a year on anti-poverty programs of one sort or another at the federal and state levels, which is more than we spend on the military.....and it doesn't work. Instead, it perpetuates and exacerbates the problem.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: schuyler

Can we write in M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction) then? Cause if that happens then it appears we either really did learn nothing or really don't have any control. Either way, stick a fork in me cause I'm done.

Well no... I'll give that scenario one thing, it could have been Jeb and Hillary which make us even more in need of annihilation...

Agreed. It's just that I think the majority of the electorate really do not want a maverick of either stripe. Compared to either Bernie or Donald Hillary and Cruz are considered much more middle-road candidates. The electorate really doesn't want to rock the boat that much though it may sound like fun at first. I think that's what we are seeing right now in the polls--people having fun with the system for the time being.

Nobody for President 2016!

Seriously.

On another note, its not even set in stone that they will win their respective parties nomination.

It feel like a lot of people are jumping on the Bernie wagon just to spite Trump, much like how people jump on the Trump wagon just to spite to establishment, including myself.

I like some of what Sanders has said, but he is still a career politician. He will be forced to act according to party lines or he will be railroaded the same way Ron Paul was. In the end I think a vote for Sanders would be a vote for the Democratic establishment, a few new gimmicks but still the same product.

I don't agree with everything Trump has said but at least he doesn't sugar coat his words, doesn't fund his campaign through special interests and is getting just as much hate from the Republican establishment as he is from the Democrats. This is why I think he's the only candidate who will actually shake up politics in America.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: AlienView

And who do you think will win ? I say it will be close - What do you think

I think it will be Cruz vs. Clinton.

that is the TPTB ticket

Lol if that is the case I will need to vote for the sniveling little socialist...

a reply to: Konduit

Bernie doesn't accept superpac money, at this point that's good enough for me.

I'm never voting for anyone who accepts it again. The more people that make this commitment, the sooner we can take back our government. First step is taking away the super-pac golden goose.

I don't care if he's a career politician, this very fact alone makes a vote for Bernie a vote for real change.

originally posted by: schuyler

I think it will be Cruz vs. Clinton.

Cruz is actually the smartest of the bunch, but I hope he can keep his religion in check.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: schuyler

I think it will be Cruz vs. Clinton.

Cruz is actually the smartest of the bunch, but I hope he can keep his religion in check.

I don't know, Cruz's attempts at impersonating JFK reminds me more of Mayor Quimby from the Simpsons.

originally posted by: Konduit
It feel like a lot of people are jumping on the Bernie wagon just to spite Trump, much like how people jump on the Trump wagon just to spite to establishment, including myself.

I like some of what Sanders has said, but he is a career politician. He will be forced to act according to party lines or he will be railroaded the same way Ron Paul was. In the end I think a vote for Sanders would be a vote for the Democratic establishment, a few new upgrades and gimmicks but still the same product.

I don't agree with everything Trump has said but at least he doesn't sugar coat his words, doesn't fund his campaign through special interests and is getting just as much hate from the establishment Republicans as he is from the Democrats. This is why I think he's the only candidate who will actually shake up politics in America.

Nope at-least I was with the Burn waay before media outlets even acknowledged his presence , I never liked Trump even before he threw his hat in the ring, the fact that he have no filter maybe appealing , but some who are on his wagon beat up his opponents just because they felt empowered or as he put it "Enthusiastic" nor am I thrilled that White Nationalists Among Donald Trump's Most Enthusiastic Supporters
www.ibtimes.com...

In my view he is destined to bring out the worst in people.
The highlighted part of your comment, No! I don't think so yes he has been at this for a very longtime but his record is one of consistency he had never wavered,plus Libs are not Republicans who roll over for the establishment we will call them out and have them pay a political price in the way Reps for Ron Paul did not...btw I am a Ron Paul fan myself...a lil less for his son.
I think Both will shake up things in America for the better or worst, I say for the better is Da Burn!!

originally posted by: Konduit

I don't know, Cruz's attempts at impersonating JFK reminds me more of Mayor Quimby from the Simpsons.

I mean as in IQ and a photographic memory smart..lol

Bernie said if we continue to allow A Pacts and big corporate lobbying to buy the elections we will never see any changes for We The People and I have to agree.

The 2016 elections are going to be a historic event unlike any we have seen before.

I believe it will get down to Bernie or Trump.

I am a Trump supporter, however after watching Bernie tonight he makes more sense then Trump and I like Bernie Healthcare plan so far.

But what Bernie has done to get my attention right now, is he is against the corrupt corporate lobbying which is one of the biggest problems in our elections.

We have not had a President for We The People in decades, and I believe that is why so many Americans have lost confidence in the voting process, knowing that the corporation already have elected our leaders.

Sanders pointed this out tonight and a I agree.

originally posted by: Konduit
I don't agree with everything Trump has said but at least he doesn't sugar coat his words, doesn't fund his campaign through special interests and is getting just as much hate from the Republican establishment as he is from the Democrats. This is why I think he's the only candidate who will actually shake up politics in America.

He's going to be as limited by party politics as Bernie. Even if he gets in virtually everyone in congress will still be a Republican or Democrat all of whom will still answer to special interests. . Despite the GOP hype about Obama, getting things done by executive order is limited unless he tries to force a constitutional crisis.

a reply to: DelMarvel

He's going to be as limited by party politics as Bernie. Even if he gets in virtually everyone in congress will still be a Republican or Democrat all of whom will still answer to special interests.

And this is where we can help, sign up for a constitutional amendment to repeal Citizen's United. if you are a Rep or Dem this should trouble you the most.

Don't misunderstans what I'm about to say - But as Bernie kept saying about facts and money controling the electoral process
- He is absoulutely right! And when he said he is going to break-up the big banks he committed political suicide! Not a
chance in hell that 'they' will allow him to become President!

This is a conspiracy forum right? And do you know why it is so popular? Right, there are a lot of conspiracies operating in
the background of world events - we often try to guess who the players are and what [besides control and power] is their
agendas. Sometimes we guess right and sometimes wrong - but make no mistake about it that MONEY that Bernie has
decided to lock horns with will never let him or his agenda rule the USA. He could have gotten away with calling himself
a Socialist and some of his socialist agendas 'IF" he didn''t declare war on the capitalist elite - LIke Ron Paul trying to audit
the Federal Reserve - it is a losing battle. Change, and more leftist agendas, he could have gotten away with - But he will
not beat the Devil at controlling the world - And ever since they invented money you know it has been controlling it.
So I watched the debate tonight and really admired Bernies willingness to challenge the world powers - but realized
that as soon as he said he was going to break up the big banks - he was through !

originally posted by: yesyesyes

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: AlienView

And who do you think will win ? I say it will be close - What do you think

I think it will be Cruz vs. Clinton.

that is the TPTB ticket

so more likley than Trump Vs Sanders.

You votes matter little to nothing if its not for one of there candidates.

Cruz is actually the smartest of the bunch, but I hope he can keep his religion in check.

I wouldn't bet on that one. I am wondering why he hasn't got a new coloring book out for the election. He should have time since he is not doing the senate work any more.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: AlienView


And who do you think will win ? I say it will be close - What do you think

I agree. Right now I would have it 52-48 Trump.
Not what I want but what it seems like the US wants.

The latest two polls show Sanders beating Trump by 13 and 15 points. Link I know it's early but surely the polls are more indicative than personal opinion?

Sanders has also consistently polled better against Trump than Hillary. I'm not directing this at you, but I don't understand why some people think the GOP would be hoping for a Sanders nomination.