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I'm pro Trump and pro Wall...

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posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

It is scary to me that there is groups of people out there that think that is the answer, to just militarize the border and kill anyone that wants to cross it...




posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

What he is proposing is total BS. They don't need to be killed but we need to firmly establish that it's fix America time.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Puppylove

But he's bought and paid for by the Unions.

He's the other side of the same coin. Controlled opposition.


BS, he just fights for unions.
It is ironic that all the people that want the US to be how it used to be forget how many unions there used to be.
It's almost like as more unions got dissolved, more jobs got shipped out and lost.

Can you please address what Trump has said about the employers?
You know that is the problem but yet ignore that the man you want to support has said NOTHING about it??
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posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Actually a lot of Unions support Hillary, and their workers are pissed about it and pressuring them to put in their support for him instead of Hillary. The very fact that many unions need to be pressured by their workers to throw their hat in with Bernie tells me that Union Support isn't truly as strong as you think. Many are reluctant. However, Unions are in an odd place unlike corporate super pacs, Unions have to pretend to support their workers.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:52 PM
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Oh my goodness! I literally cracked up laughing at your cowboy remark! Not just because I really believe you are attempting sarcasm but in the truth of this is what my Trump supporting hubby thinks. He debates on and on how his hopes are on Trump. He really believes Trump is psycho enough to scare the world into believing he will just push a button and nuke all dissenters! He believes Trump is a Reagan. Someone who can use acting to create an illusion of a great America.

Trump is no Reagan.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Hey, his father built his own success, and he simply continued it. Now if he was like 4th generation born into wealth, maybe you can slam his prestige. But he worked his ass off as well to get to where he is today. Is that not what we all want for our children, for our bloodline??



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

By letting Sanders in office all it will do is give the people the illusion that someone cares about them and is fighting for them in the White House.

Is that what you want?

I don't I'm ready for change and it's time we start doing some things right.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: reldra
A wall of snipers? You want to shoot and kill people trying to come here ...

... illegally
In a word: Yes.

Hopefully, that word would get out and the border jumping would end before a shot was fired. If not ... the word would get back soon enough that the risk was worth nowhere near the reward.


Are you sure your not talking about the Berlin wall? I remember how Americans would criticise such tactics as despicable. Seems America has really changed.


The Berlin Wall kept people in ... not out. I do recall a myriad of incidents when the wall was mounted and shots were fired in any event. The Berlin Wall made it easier to make effective shots.

Apples and oranges from my perspective.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I agree.
I hope Trump wins. I care about the economy mostly, and nobody has done a single thing that has helped it since Ronnie boy Reagan.
Obama and Bush destroyed the economy by building up government to the point that we may never be able to tear it back down. But Trump just might be able to pull it off. I hope he wins by a landslide and kicks a lot of people off the government payrolls, and ditches the laughable and extremely embarrassing liberally enforced ACA, aka the "affordable" health care act which is an insult to every American.

A human being who was born with no brain could do a better job than what we are getting now. But we really need someone who isn't afraid to go in with both fists pummeling. Trump is the only one who fits that kind.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: onequestion




I don't I'm ready for change and it's time we start doing some things right.



And Trump is the answer?!

He wants a wall, you say you don't want one.
You address the people giving them the jobs is the biggest issue, he hasn't said a peep about that.

This is so confusing....



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: onequestion

Do you also think Mexico will be paying for said imaginary wall? To be for 'the wall' you also have to believe how Trump wants to fund the wall.



originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: onequestion

You didn't really talk about the wall in your OP so I have a question about it.

Do you actually believe that if Trump was elected he could make Mexico build a 1300 mile long wall at the border like he claimed he would?


Trump has detailed this since the beginning.
Each year we give money to Mexico, around $200,000,000 per year.

Each year we give a lot of money to a lot of different countries.

Trump is going to use that money that would have gone to Mexico and put it towards paying off the wall.


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posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Again? Invading two countries is a pretty big shake the globe still feels. I think the corp model and Trump are has beens and the times are a changing. For one, the middle class is no longer big spenders. And technology is making it easy. Once you get a comfortable base, like a housing and property, you hardly need to leave the community. New techniques of growing lots of food in small places, green energy, making money from home....the possibilities.

All we need is a little socialism for health and family.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: AmericanRealist

I don't need billions of dollars and neither does my next generation. Last thing I want is for anyone related to me to choose to waste wealth on extravagant bull# rather than help others. Not everyone wants or needs to rule the world. My god, it sickens me how many people think excess wealth is something good or positive. It's pure greed and avarice is all it is.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Except that isn't what he has said at all.

He has said Mexico is going to pay for it and if they don't he is going to raise taxes on their imports.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

Actually, wasn't the latest reports showing that more were going south than coming north? Perhaps, Trumps wall is more closely related to the Berlin wall after all?

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posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Except that isn't what he has said at all.

He has said Mexico is going to pay for it and if they don't he is going to raise taxes on their imports.


Because he negotiates contracts worth billions he understands the power of leverage in global politics and how to use it.

How the hell do you think he lost and made billions?



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I like Trump and will be voting for him!
*He's not a career politician (so he won't ALWAYS tell you what you what to hear).
*He doesn't need money, so he can't be bought.
*He definitely doesn't need a job, especially one of the hardest jobs in the world.
*He doesn't hide or sugar coat what he's really thinking.
*He doesn't seem to have a hidden agenda.
*He's giving a voice to the people. (what most of us are really thinking but can't say it or we're called racist or we're not being politically correct)
*He's straight forward - if you come at him, he will come back at you x2. (with balls the size of TX)
So what's left? Why else would he run for the job?
Maybe to make America great again - like it use to be?



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: reldra

I'm not PC.

Also I believe we need somewhat of a cowboy right now to shake things up and rattle some cages, across the globe as well.


Depends on your definition of PC. Or when being not PC is appropriate. Is it appropriate for the President to speak like Trump does? He would have to represent a diverse population and making fun of handicapped people as if he is a 6th grader really doesn't do that.

If you are looking for a more aggressive policies, IE: a cowboy, that;s fine. But you have to be sure he has the knowledge beyond Celebrity Apprentice, building hotels and gold resorts.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: xuenchen

Sure, I'll humor you there, but if you want to take that route you would have to accept it has been an issue for decades.
Even the holy man him self Reagan had the issue, he choose amnesty as his answer.

Strange how you don't have employers wanting to make the most profit possible in your list...


Reagan's attempt ultimately failed. Honest men who support Reagan are aware of it and acknowledge it.

His amnesty was betrayed. It ended up empowering even more illegals. You suggest the same 'solution' which will gain us the same...no,even worse result.



posted on Jan, 16 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

No, he said he would make Mexico build it.

Anyway, here is some figures for that wall he wants. To build an additional 1300 miles of crap wall like what is currently on the border that people jump over and tunnel under each day would cost 25 to 35 BILLION and would require an additional 750 MILLION a year to maintain not including monitoring costs.

But, he said he would have a better wall built which I am sure would cost more.


Do you believe him?
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