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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
For the record, I don't even LIKE Ted Cruz and I know this whole thing is a waste of time.
I'd rather have Trump as our president than Ted Cruz... But I'm not going to use some lame Birther II argument to make him seem ineligible.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: Xeven
Well the founders certainly wanted to segregate by use of term "natural" so we do need to decide what they mean.
Keep in mind none of the presidents at the time of the founders could have been president if you had to be born here in the US....(including the subsequent presidents there after)
That probably held some weight when they drew this whole thing up.
Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested in Birther Suit
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: Xeven
Well the founders certainly wanted to segregate by use of term "natural" so we do need to decide what they mean.
Keep in mind none of the presidents at the time of the founders could have been president if you had to be born here in the US....(including the subsequent presidents there after)
That probably held some weight when they drew this whole thing up.
It did, hence the grandfather clause bolded below:
"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Yes yes and you were on another thread promoting Cruz as being ineligible
And just like in that thread you are wrong.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
For the record, I don't even LIKE Ted Cruz and I know this whole thing is a waste of time.
I'd rather have Trump as our president than Ted Cruz... But I'm not going to use some lame Birther II argument to make him seem ineligible.
Here's the dumbest part about the whole argument. Donald Trump SPECIFICALLY said that his citizenship wasn't in question (when Cruz wasn't a threat to Trump's polling numbers). NOW that things are different in the polls, suddenly its an issue.
I can't believe people are even entertaining this idea... I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone...
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Yes yes and you were on another thread promoting Cruz as being ineligible
And just like in that thread you are wrong.
I am pretty certain the fact that this question exists without an answer from the courts is evidence that no one can be certain who is right or wrong, at this point.
Ted Cruz finally took it to Donald Trump, and the crowd ate it up.
As the two leading contenders for the GOP nomination battled over the issue of Cruz's eligibility for the presidency, the Republican debate audience repeatedly joined in on the action -- jeering Trump while cheering on the Texas senator as he defended his ability to run for the White House.
At one point in the bizarre exchange, Trump attempted to launch into a familiar refrain and tout the latest polls showing him atop the crowded field. But the audience wasn't having it, making the real estate mogul pause after a sustained round of boos went up in the chamber.
Asked why he was questioning Cruz's U.S. citizenship at this point in the race, Trump flatly admitted that it was because of the growing threat Cruz now poses to the businessman's presidential prospects.
"Because now he’s doing a little bit better. I didn’t care before," Trump said, as the crowd made its feelings heard once more.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Once again the lowest common denominator in voters on both sides has been targeted, and both have answered the clarion call for rampant stupidity......
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Yes yes and you were on another thread promoting Cruz as being ineligible
And just like in that thread you are wrong.
I am pretty certain the fact that this question exists without an answer from the courts is evidence that no one can be certain who is right or wrong, at this point.
There have been several answers, and the majority pretty straight forward
The fact that you dont LIKE the answers or they dont fit your agenda have no consequence....
you can make up your own opinion but you cant make up your own facts
Me, too. If you can't say 'OSer' or 'Truther' on ATS, then 'birther' needs to go, too.
“Do you still think he’s ineligible to be president because he was born in Canada?” ABC’s Jon Karl asked in September.
“No, from what I understand everything is fine,” Trump said. “I hear it was checked out by every attorney and every which way and I understand Ted is in fine shape.”
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Well the Donald seemed ok with just relying on random attorneys back in September.
Donald Trump Has Now Flip-Flopped Twice on Ted Cruz’s Eligibility
“Do you still think he’s ineligible to be president because he was born in Canada?” ABC’s Jon Karl asked in September.
“No, from what I understand everything is fine,” Trump said. “I hear it was checked out by every attorney and every which way and I understand Ted is in fine shape.”
This is not the first time that a Republican presidential candidate faced such questions. As we have written before, John McCain, who was the Republican nominee in 2008, was born to U.S. citizens in the Panama Canal Zone, and Barry Goldwater, who was the party’s nominee in 1964, was born to U.S. citizens in Arizona before it was a state. George Romney, who was born to U.S. citizens in Mexico, ran for president in 1968, but did not win the nomination.