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Well like a lot things you believe that's total nonsense,
He's there & the rest of the rabble with him are to use your phrase, scumbags too.
we must be able to admit when we were wrong, even if our hearts were in the right place. Is that the case here? well because no one will just tell the truth out right then ..... i guess the writers of history will decide.
originally posted by: akira131
the only answers were from their supporters and it was just religious babble about how "those without ears will never hear" yadda yadda yadda.
“This armed occupation can in no way be justified on a scriptural basis. We . . . live in a nation where conflicts with government or private groups can — and should — be settled using peaceful means, according to the laws of the land.”
The Bundys’ challenge to federal authority has deep roots in the church’s history. After an angry mob lynched Mormon’s founding father Joseph Smith in 1844, every man entering the church swore an “oath of vengeance” against the United States, which refused to recognize Smith’s new religious awakening.
Like Joseph Smith, Brigham Young preached that the American Constitution was a divinely inspired document being perverted by secular politicians in Washington. In a famous speech recorded in the church’s “Journal of Discourses,” Young “said if the Constitution of the United States were saved at all it must be done by this people” — meaning the Mormons.
The Bundys likewise believe that Washington politicians have hijacked the Constitution, and Ammon thinks the Mormon church agrees with them. In a 2014 podcast, he reported that, in his Arizona church, “the majority came and showed their support for me and my family” when he and his father tangled with the BLM that year.
Bundy said that his local Mormon bishop had considered “releasing,” or expelling, him from the church, but then thought better of it. “Once I explained the Lord’s involvement” in the Bundys’ politics, Ammon said, the bishop “said he understands and has felt some of the things I have felt.”
I never told you what I believe, where do you get your information about me personally?
You want to call all the militia scumbags, then knock yourself out.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: aethertekExcuse me a moment. Does anyone know how many people now occupy the refuge? My understanding is that there were only a few at first. Are there women and children there?
Are there flocks of other 'patriots' joining them?
originally posted by: akira131
a reply to: Spider879
I hope I didn't kill your thread. I have a tendency to do that in this world and the real one. I like to believe it is because I make people think. I have no problem accepting when I am wrong, that is how we grow.. no?
I invite with ALL sincerity anyone who can show me the error of my ways. and/or show me a new way of seeing things.