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originally posted by: kittensandpaws
I was wondering what the folks that use ATS would want in a society if they were to join one. The idea of creating a secret society has been on my mind for several years now. The basic concept would be around the focus of computer security and technology. Something like 2600 or the Chaos Computer Club, except secret and benevolent. It would be a "white hat" (good guy) society that would help society in secret.
Here are some points to consider:
- should there be dues?
- should there be a maximum number of participants? different clubs for different regions or one big club?
- what should the members receive (material things)?
- what should the members learn (technological secrets?)
- how can it benefit society? (charitable work, helping out people, groups, and the world)
- should we meet in person or online (geographical issues)?
- should members know about each other, or should it be uber secret where members don't even know of each other?
- where to recruit members from? (schools, places of worship, social clubs)?
- should there be a common clothing code?
- how to ensure non-repudiation (have it so that people can't pretend to be members and make the organization look bad?)
- should there be a secret gesture to indicate common membership?
- should the society run a business to help bring funds for the purpose of having the society easily pay its bills?
- what to do about criminals infiltrating the group?
- what to do with members that break oaths and go all crazy like?
- group health insurance?
- how to stop penetration into the society? (bug detectors, background checks?)
- plausible denyability
- help getting employment
- what other things would you want if you were to join your dream society? (such as pub nights, outings, tea, or anything else?)
- should it be covert, clandestine, or both (how secret should the society be?)
- suggestions of what not to do
- liability (if the stuff hits the fan)
- should there eventually be a society house (building) or should the meetups change every meeting?
- how should money be handled (by whom, with what permission, so that its not stolen or something like that)
- how to shut down the society if it starts turning evil, gets corrupted, or infiltrated
- how to handle the passing of the society head government when the leader or leaders eventually get old and pass away?
Thanks for your ideas and comments!
And whitehat or blackhat...entering a computer network that you do not have access too is still illegal whether you have good intentions or bad intentions.
Why would you have a secret society that is benevolent?
My preference is that any society, organisation, or body of people moving as one, be prevented from keeping secrets of any kind, for any reason. Individual privacy is something I support, but humans in large groups tend toward the dangerous and stupid, and should not be given the same dispensation.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
Corporations, governments, clubs and other organisations must never be afforded the same freedom.