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Sanders’ Healthcare Plan Will Save Average American Family Nearly $1,200 Per Year

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posted on Jan, 17 2016 @ 11:10 AM

originally posted by: Edumakated

Why don't we take the reigns off the insurance industry so there can be some actual competition to drive prices down so people can afford it and decouple it from employers so people can shop around?

The first step would be to get Pharma and Big Insurance out of our government.
It used to be Big Business wanted government out of their business, but now they are going to government to see what it can do for them. Big Business is not showering records amount of money on politicians to be kind.

How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy
Business didn't always have so much power in Washington.

Today, the biggest companies have upwards of 100 lobbyists representing them, allowing them to be everywhere, all the time. For every dollar spent on lobbying by labor unions and public-interest groups together, large corporations and their associations now spend $34. Of the 100 organizations that spend the most on lobbying, 95 consistently represent business.

Things are quite different today. The evolution of business lobbying from a sparse reactive force into a ubiquitous and increasingly proactive one is among the most important transformations in American politics over the last 40 years. Probing the history of this transformation reveals that there is no “normal” level of business lobbying in American democracy. Rather, business lobbying has built itself up over time, and the self-reinforcing quality of corporate lobbying has increasingly come to overwhelm every other potentially countervailing force. It has also fundamentally changed how corporations interact with government—rather than trying to keep government out of its business (as they did for a long time), companies are now increasingly bringing government in as a partner, looking to see what the country can do for them.

posted on Jan, 17 2016 @ 11:17 AM

originally posted by: AlaskanDad
For those that oppose Sanders and wish to keep our current rulers:

Questioning Corporate rule, not capitalism itself even will get you called a socialist.
The definition of Socialism to a corporatist is not about policies but about not letting them get their way over you and the government.

posted on Jan, 17 2016 @ 11:32 AM

originally posted by: gspat

Uh.. sorry. They go to the states because they don't want to wait in line with the other pee-ons for the same treatment in their own country.

They don't go to you because it's the best, they go because they can afford to pay the outrageous fees for it.

Exactly. Majority of Medical Tourism in the US is from Big Spenders like the Saudi Princes that go to the front of the line to get care asap.
edit on 17-1-2016 by jacobe001 because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 17 2016 @ 11:39 AM

originally posted by: gspat

Who says the practice of medicine has to be a for profit business?

The problem with a capitalistic model and free market approach to Medical Care is, it is not something you shop around for the best price or quality. Hospitals do not have billboards with the costs displayed like you would see at McDonalds.
It is also not something that you have a lot of leisure time to think about since it usually requires immediate care.

How would the consumer that just got in a car wreck, bleeding and knocked out make free market choices?

The model we have now is fraudulent based where the costs are hidden from the consumer until the bill comes.

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