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The Top 10 Reasons Libertarians Aren’t Nice To You • Christopher Cantwell

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posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 05:08 AM
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I came across this humorous yet brutally honest explanation detailing why libertarians are less than polite when discussing economics.

I have to admit that I don't completely adhere to these sentiments but, maybe I'm just not being honest with myself.




The Top 10 Reasons Libertarians Aren’t Nice To You



People often complain about libertarians being rude and obnoxious. It’s not nearly as widespread a problem as some would make it out to be, and contrary to popular belief, this did not begin with me. To the extent that it does exist, I have become to many this sort of picture of the asshole libertarian who doesn’t give a # about your feelings or opinions. So I figured I’d put this list together of why libertarians aren’t nice to you. Even libertarians who are nice to you, I think will get a kick out of it, because despite their outward appearances, they are every bit as frustrated with your statism as we are. Feel free to bookmark it and produce it every time you hear someone make this complaint.





Libertarians Aren’t Nice To You Because:

10. Ridicule works.
9. If you already have an ideology, we’re actually not terribly concerned with convincing you.
8. We’re not trying to win elections
7. We’ve already had this discussion a hundred times
6. All those “what ifs” you’re so concerned about, they’re called choices.
5. I can’t teach you economics in 140 characters or less
4. We actually are smarter than you
3. Our moral superiority is justified
2. We’re not asking for much
1. You always resort to violence


I haven’t bothered to spend any time carefully editing this since I know from experience that my efforts would just be deleted anyway.

You’ll just have to imagine what I might have attempted to focus your attention on.





posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 05:19 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

Well, I think that was a pretty comprehensive explanation of what appears to be a legitimate position for a Libertarian to take on matters.

I think, that of all the political blocs currently in existence in the world, the libertarian bloc is the one I dislike the least.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 06:09 AM
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I consider myself a Libertarian, because I actually believe in individual choice and Freedom to make those choices. I don't consider myself smarter than everyone else......but I'm smarter than many. I'm not nice, because I get so. damn. tired. of the whining. No one owes them anything. If you want something, get off your ass and earn it. I hate it when people do the "if" game. They're more worried about imaginary, far fetched scenarios, than what's right under their nose and let the fear of those far fetched ideas rule their decisions.
No, I'm not going to take the time to convince you if you already have your mind made up. If you can't see your idea is a disaster, that's on you.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
3. Our moral superiority is justified

This one is hardly unique to libertarians.
I've always considered "Our view is the righteous one, so anyone who disagrees is positively evil" to be the defining characteristic of left-wing politics, justifying extreme behaviour towards others.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: greencmp

Well, I think that was a pretty comprehensive explanation of what appears to be a legitimate position for a Libertarian to take on matters.

I think, that of all the political blocs currently in existence in the world, the libertarian bloc is the one I dislike the least.


I think you might be one of the rare people libertarians bother to try to reach.




posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
I consider myself a Libertarian, because I actually believe in individual choice and Freedom to make those choices. I don't consider myself smarter than everyone else......but I'm smarter than many. I'm not nice, because I get so. damn. tired. of the whining. No one owes them anything. If you want something, get off your ass and earn it. I hate it when people do the "if" game. They're more worried about imaginary, far fetched scenarios, than what's right under their nose and let the fear of those far fetched ideas rule their decisions.
No, I'm not going to take the time to convince you if you already have your mind made up. If you can't see your idea is a disaster, that's on you.


He really does summarize the basic source of our frustration.

Almost what a libertarian Trump might be though, he also correctly identifies why there can't be one.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: greencmp
3. Our moral superiority is justified

This one is hardly unique to libertarians.
I've always considered "Our view is the righteous one, so anyone who disagrees is positively evil" to be the defining characteristic of left-wing politics, justifying extreme behaviour towards others.


Everybody claims to have moral superiority.

Being that that is the case, it's a slightly tongue in cheek universal rebuttal as libertarians generally don't share their individual moral outlook with anyone.

The only moral aspect of libertarianism is the non-aggression principal which is actually an axiom.
edit on 14-1-2016 by greencmp because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 07:00 AM
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I have to admit that I don't completely adhere to these sentiments but, maybe I'm just not being honest with myself.


This conflict could arise from the idea that your personal "sentiments" are in conflict with the traditional definition of a Libertarian.

The traditional definition is much close to classic Liberalism in many aspects, but modern Libertarians seem to be nothing more than disgruntled Republicans jaded by the idea of a system in which compromise is acceptable and true individual liberty exists.

In other words, Libertarian has become the lifeboat for those jumping off of the GOP ship and they interpret the Libertarian ideology as a means of justifying being complete assholes.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 07:00 AM
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Yet another application of the "broad brush" that is utterly childish and ignorant.

I thought we were done with that around here...



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: NthOther
Yet another application of the "broad brush" that is utterly childish and ignorant.

I thought we were done with that around here...


Hence the political mudpit.

Seriously, I want this.




posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 07:09 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: greencmp



I have to admit that I don't completely adhere to these sentiments but, maybe I'm just not being honest with myself.


This conflict could arise from the idea that your personal "sentiments" are in conflict with the traditional definition of a Libertarian.

The traditional definition is much close to classic Liberalism in many aspects, but modern Libertarians seem to be nothing more than disgruntled Republicans jaded by the idea of a system in which compromise is acceptable and true individual liberty exists.

In other words, Libertarian has become the lifeboat for those jumping off of the GOP ship and they interpret the Libertarian ideology as a means of justifying being complete assholes.


Uh huh, you didn't read it, did you.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 07:18 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

I did, indeed.

I am invoking the tenth:


10. Ridicule works.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 07:19 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Cool!




posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

Disclaimer: Just personal experience/observation here.... and I'm painting with the broadest brush at my disposal.

A lot of my views actually fall in line with what I see the "typical libertarian" proposing. That being said, something that urks me a bit about the "vocal libertarian" is that they kinda/sorta KNOW that they can say just about anything because it is always, ALWAYS just a theory because it will NEVER be put in place. So they just walk around with a, "Meh, I and only I know the solutions to the world's problems."



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

Absolutely the best and most all-encompassing quote from that link that describes libertarian thinking:


Seriously, what the f**k? Just leave me alone.


Seriously.




posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 09:57 AM
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Interesting article.

Libertarianism has become a bit of a self congratulatory badge for conservatives that want to separate themselves while not being particularly libertarian in their actual outlook, I'd imagine many would vehemently deny being anarchists due to the negative connotations associated with the word but what he said was true... it pretty much is anarchist ideology.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

Reduce a society to economics and you start to forget a society involves people, I suppose. I like the libertarian critique, but The ideals of libertarianism are just as abstract and unattainable as socialism.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Maybe in so much as there would still be a necessary government that would be there to protect its citizenry from being usurped by an ill-intentioned group or government. But the idea that humans should live free from oppressive governments and laws and be allowed to exist peacefully together is not an abstract idea, although I do agree that it is most likely an unattainable goal considering how globalized and interconnected all of the governments of the world have become.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: greencmp

Disclaimer: Just personal experience/observation here.... and I'm painting with the broadest brush at my disposal.

A lot of my views actually fall in line with what I see the "typical libertarian" proposing. That being said, something that urks me a bit about the "vocal libertarian" is that they kinda/sorta KNOW that they can say just about anything because it is always, ALWAYS just a theory because it will NEVER be put in place. So they just walk around with a, "Meh, I and only I know the solutions to the world's problems."


Yes, there is a very peculiar arrogance about angrily demanding that others spontaneously epiphanate.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: greencmp

Absolutely the best and most all-encompassing quote from that link that describes libertarian thinking:


Seriously, what the f**k? Just leave me alone.


Seriously.



There are a number of well timed hilarious outbursts...



so the fact that we don’t shoot you in the face really speaks volumes to our civility.


lol



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