Freedom of Speech, Donald Trump Style

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: snypwsd
a reply to: TerminalVelocity

when did the recession start? 2008.... when did obama become president 2008.

Wrong, he took office 2009...

sigh..

ok then... he took office in 2009. the recession still started in 2008 which makes it bushes fault lol which means he did not sigle handedly ruin the country. he did not bankrupt the country.

a reply to: Grimpachi
First , there is no "Freedom of the Press" guaranteed by the Constitution in specific. There is a Freedom of Speech amendment. Evidently , that does not apply to press conferences nor political get togethers. I agree , in part , there should be more . However most cases are a matter of disruption . There is a difference in upholding the freedom of speech and these people's lack of moral character. The ONLY reason these people go are to disrupt these meetings.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Freedom of the press means no censorship on the written word by the government, not that the press is free to go wherever they want and/or film whoever they want to at a private event. That is the reason why Alex Jones got in trouble when he broke into bohemian grove.

The reason they told the media to focus on Trump was because they knew companies like TYT would not get people to sign disclosure forms to be filmed, so they were illegally filming people in the first place.

Youtube and phone cameras have spoiled people into thinking that they can film whatever whenever and no one, not even the persons being filmed have a right to tell them no. Now, I won't be so silly as to say Trump was protecting the privacy of his supports, but he did not edit that footage himself, nor did he have the film confiscated and destroyed.

The press was totally free to report on this event if invited and followed the rules, they did not, so they were asked to leave, but they were not asked to censor anything they did see.

a reply to: snypwsd

Currently America is a corporate nightmare. I agree with a lot of what Sanders says, but I also know reality. I also agree with a lot of what Trump says.

America allowed corporations to become global entities, and they now have power over the country. Revolutions do not affect the elite. Sanders doesn't have an effective plan if multi-national corporations just up and decide to stop doing business inside America because of his tax plans.

Trump (being one of those conglomerates) DOES have global influence, and therefore knows a whole hell of a lot more than Sanders regarding global business. If corporations ditched out on America, the only thing we would have left is the military. Yay Sanders gets to start ww3.

Trump scripted for your viewing pleasure.

He such a control freak now I bet it would be way worse if he was elected.

a reply to: Gothmog

Actually, I think the constitution does say that there is freedom of the press. It is found in the 1st Amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Source

but that freedom, as stated in a previous post, based on the government not making censorship laws. People's personal right not to be filmed or interviewed is not suspect to this freedom, you may request not to be filmed and if you are filmed without your knowledge, you can sue that company for using your image without your knowledge or consent.

originally posted by: snypwsd

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: snypwsd
a reply to: TerminalVelocity

when did the recession start? 2008.... when did obama become president 2008.

Wrong, he took office 2009...

sigh..

ok then... he took office in 2009. the recession still started in 2008 which makes it bushes fault lol which means he did not sigle handedly ruin the country. he did not bankrupt the country.

Let me ask you, what happens when an avalanche is coming your way? Can you stop it?

originally posted by: hubrisinxs
a reply to: Gothmog

Actually, I think the constitution does say that there is freedom of the press. It is found in the 1st Amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Source




but that freedom, as stated in a previous post, based on the government not making censorship laws. People's personal right not to be filmed or interviewed is not suspect to this freedom, you may request not to be filmed and if you are filmed without your knowledge, you can sue that company for using your image without your knowledge or consent.

Two words , show me. There is no stated , as I posted , a freedom of the press. Please read the entire post. That way you get the meaning.In most cases these "showing of a__es " are not a matter of Freedom of Speech , but the heckler's complete lack of moral character.




Does anyone start yelling at the minister in church ? Did they go there just to disrupt ? If they did and do , will they be escorted out ? Yes.
If you go to a business meeting , do you start yelling at the speaker to disrupt ? If you do not only will you be escorted out , but probably terminated from that company
Same deal. Not a Freedom of Speech issue when you maliciously do these things. It is exactly the opposite.

originally posted by: hubrisinxs
Actually, I think the constitution does say that there is freedom of the press. It is found in the 1st Amendment.

Does the 1st amendment extend into private property?

a reply to: Grimpachi

Hillary "roping off reporters" mean anything?

a reply to: Vector99

no you cant stop it. but that hypothetical is of no use here. because you cant blame obama for Bush's Avalanche. Bush was the cannon that started the avalanche and obama was on damage control/ cleanup duty.

Up here in Canada we just had our latest election a couple months ago. Stephen Harper (former Canadian prime minister) was our version of trump. He was racist, sexist and a war monger thinking he was tougher then he actually was. Us Canadians, stood infront of the so called avalanche coming towards us and voted against him to elect Justin Trudeau.

I hope Americans will do the same as us and other developed nations and elect some one who will actually care about and help american people.
that is the only way to make a country strong. Remember trump just a little while ago was in support of lowering minimum wage.

a reply to: snypwsd

So Bush made "nice nice" with Iran...? The same Iran that captured some of our boats and fellas just before the speech?

The same Iran that Obama gave away the store to while getting nothing in return?

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Grimpachi
First , there is no "Freedom of the Press" guaranteed by the Constitution in specific. There is a Freedom of Speech amendment. Evidently , that does not apply to press conferences nor political get togethers. I agree , in part , there should be more . However most cases are a matter of disruption . There is a difference in upholding the freedom of speech and these people's lack of moral character. The ONLY reason these people go are to disrupt these meetings.

yes these people go to disrupt, yes they should be removed. but they do not deserve to be treated like animals or second class citizens being asked to show their papers or have their clothing confiscated when its -10 degrees out. I have worked in -10 degrees f as I am Canadian an know what a real winter looks like and its not fun at all. I couldnt imagine having my jacket confiscated then have to go out into the cold with no protection. but not only them but people who didnt support anyone were not allowed in, people that could have been persuaded in his direction were banned. Instead of trying to grow his base he is just pandering to the bigots.

here is another video from another trump rally a few days ago.

originally posted by: snypwsd


yes these people go to disrupt, yes they should be removed. but they do not deserve to be treated like animals or second class citizens

If you go somewhere with the intent of being a jackass, expect to be treated like a jackass.

a reply to: snypwsd

sorry mods. the vid in my last post didnt show up right away so i posted it in this one. but after i posted this.... it popped up in the last comment i made. Please feel free to delete this one.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: snypwsd


yes these people go to disrupt, yes they should be removed. but they do not deserve to be treated like animals or second class citizens

If you go somewhere with the intent of being a jackass, expect to be treated like a jackass.

Do on to others as others do on to you is the wrong mentality to have coming from a "christian" nation.

seeing as tho you like hypotheticalls.

If your child acts like a jackass, do you act like a jack ass back to them?

a reply to: snypwsd

Huh? I'm not christian, America isn't a christian nation, and that made no sense at all.

a reply to: Vector99

The constitution says it isnt, but every politician running except Sanders is a Christian or a variation of. No Athiest will ever be president. When did I say you were Christian? Laws in the states are based on christian/Catholic views. The phrase "in god we trust" is that not the american motto? it was adopted in 1956. the LGBT comunity was not allowed to marry their loved ones untill last year because american law makers and citizens believed in traditional marriages as dictated in the bible. You got people calling for religous tests for refugees to see if they are christian before allowing them into the country. Every political ad mentions god. what about the saying "god bless America"? Almost every tv show has christianity/Catholicism religions in them. You got teachers and coaches constantly getting introuble for praying or talking about religion in public schools. what religious holidays does the usa celebrate? christmas..... easter........ what budist holidays do they celebrate nationally? None what islamic hollidays does the states celebrate?None. is there any atheist hollidays? no.

so yes it does make sense if you look at the whole picture. on paper the usa is a secular country. but in reality, in real life it is not. I never said you were christian. I dont even know you so how could I make that assumption? But america as a whole is a christian country.

a reply to: snypwsd

You quoted me and stated christian values, that is where the mis-interpretation happened.

As far as America being a christian nation? Well one of the few times I'll refer to NLBS as a source, here ya go
link

originally posted by: snypwsd


If your child acts like a jackass, do you act like a jack ass back to them?

Very opinionated question here. Yes, in my opinion, you absolutely do. You also teach your children right from wrong so you don't ever have to make them cry in public for being an ass, and them make them cry later when you punish them for being an ass.

Just my 2c though.