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Patriots TEAR DOWN Illegal Gov. Fence at OregonFront!

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: machineintelligence


This is pretty interesting to watch. Just a short video of the Bundy's and their cohort tearing down a Fish & Wildlife effected fence to restore the grazing area to the cattle in Oregon. This situation of government over reach is creating a lot of direct action to oppose it it seems.


They could have tore down the fence to restore the land rights to the American homeless which is ultra messianic patriotism. These men are cowboy patriots and act as such, preferring to ride alone with backing away from many other patriot groups and militias when they offered front and center armed support. They are not THE patriots... yet as there is still time for that. That might be left up to the nobodys and anonymous if they don't snap out of their selfish behavior and speak for all the homeless American citizens. Some say God wants them to have the glory and that is why everything is going so smoothly but the fear is God will punnish them by striking all their cattle with disease, killing every one of them if they don't lead "we the people" out of extreme poverty and homelessness.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: machineintelligence

Going against your government is not patriotism, its called treason. everyone there should be locked up. Why is it that the bundys can get away with taking over government buildings, owing millions of dollars in grazing fees and not to mention trying to go to war with the government,pointing guns and threatening to kill federal agents. But Edward Snowden leaked information about the government spying on americans and he (Snowden) is the one facing jail time if not worse if he returns to the states. but these bundy hillbilly rejects get to stay free?

America makes no sense.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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The BLM is a crooked bunch working for the Government. They are intentionally burning everything on that land, houses and cattle. It is the ranchers land and if not it is the states land, NOT FEDERAL land. I hope the BLM is ran off at gun point like they were at the Bundy ranch before its not too late.

I have heard from firemen and that is NOT how you set back burns. You have to cut breaks and have a way to stop it if it gets out of control and never let homes go up with no trucks their to put them out, they are not even trying to save anything. Letting cattle get burnt just to suffer is inhumane and PETA just stays silent, figures.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: Patriotsrevenge




The BLM is a crooked bunch working for the Government.

Um. The BLM is the government. A agency of it anyway. Not really news.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: snypwsd

Not when the Government has gone completely tyrannical and not doing the bidding of the people. They work for us, not the other way around. Read our founding documents which are the rule of law that protects the people not hell bent crooked politicians.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:45 PM
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Oh, awesome. They're tearing down the federal dividing lines of the land so that it can go back to pre-federal allocation, and back to these people...

The Wishram, who were violently forced to sign over their lands to the federal government in 1855. Awesome.








Note the sarcasm. These cowboys are nothing but profiteering opportunists.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Patriotsrevenge




Read our founding documents which are the rule of law that protects the people not hell bent crooked politicians.

Maybe you should read them. And what the founder's thought about lawlessness.

In 1776, the notion that no one is above the law was popular during the founding of the United States. For example, Thomas Paine wrote in his pamphlet Common Sense that "in America, the law is king. For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other."[23] In 1780, John Adams enshrined this principle in the Massachusetts Constitution by seeking to establish "a government of laws and not of men."[24]

en.wikipedia.org...

Like it or not, we are a nation of laws. BTW, they also create the Court, whose job it is to decide what laws are legal and which are not. Like it or not.

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge




The BLM is a crooked bunch working for the Government.

Um. The BLM is the government. A agency of it anyway. Not really news.



Just like you right lol. Everyone that WORKS for the FED government or there would be no FED gov, or is their someone not collecting a paycheck at the BLM???? This branch the FED Government that is Incorporated is NOT the State ran original government OF THE PEOPLE.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Honest question, why are these guys called patriots


Because they are opposing a corrupt Federal Government.

When they are corrupt themselves like Bundy who constantly broke the law they are hardly good examples of patriots.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

No. I don't work for the government. Federal, state, or county.



This branch the FED Government that is Incorporated is NOT the State ran original government OF THE PEOPLE.
I have no idea what you just said.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Granite

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Honest question, why are these guys called patriots


The US Constitution is their guiding document...and mine.

What is yours?


None of these guys have ever read the constitution, much less understand it. If they did, they wouldn't be putting on this dog and pony show and calling it patriotism.

~Tenth


Don't forget, they need snacks. Send snacks via the USPS.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: Swills

Don't forget, they need snacks. Send snacks via the USPS.


Drone deliveries from Amazon !!




posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: snypwsd
a reply to: machineintelligence

Going against your government is not patriotism, its called treason. everyone there should be locked up. Why is it that the bundys can get away with taking over government buildings, owing millions of dollars in grazing fees and not to mention trying to go to war with the government,pointing guns and threatening to kill federal agents. But Edward Snowden leaked information about the government spying on americans and he (Snowden) is the one facing jail time if not worse if he returns to the states. but these bundy hillbilly rejects get to stay free?

America makes no sense.


Technically, it's not treason. It's sedition.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Granite

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Honest question, why are these guys called patriots


The US Constitution is their guiding document...and mine.

What is yours?


None of these guys have ever read the constitution, much less understand it. If they did, they wouldn't be putting on this dog and pony show and calling it patriotism.

~Tenth


They may or may not have. Do you have proof they have not ? If so ,post it . If not put it in terms of a possibility or ....
Either way , they would still know of the freedoms that this country provides. (even though with the Obama admin they are seriously degrading)






posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: clay2 baraka

originally posted by: snypwsd
a reply to: machineintelligence

Going against your government is not patriotism, its called treason. everyone there should be locked up. Why is it that the bundys can get away with taking over government buildings, owing millions of dollars in grazing fees and not to mention trying to go to war with the government,pointing guns and threatening to kill federal agents. But Edward Snowden leaked information about the government spying on americans and he (Snowden) is the one facing jail time if not worse if he returns to the states. but these bundy hillbilly rejects get to stay free?

America makes no sense.




Technically, it's not treason. It's sedition.


You did know that the very same Constitution and Bill of Rights gives us the green light to overthrow a tyrannical govt...And that is the major reason for the ability to bear (bare) arms , right ? . Of course , you may not.
In the above case , ti is neither sedition nor treason. But a right.


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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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how can anyone think they can win against the federal govt? serious question. now they're destroying federal property? are they trying to taunt the feds? like i said before, it looks like they're trying to start trouble, if they keep it up they will get it. id rather live than to die proving a point. you can romanticise martyrdom, but in the end you are either dead or alive.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:16 PM
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I think this point gets lost in all of the "BLM is evil" talk.

These quotes are from the Burns, Oregon community meeting held last night:

“The federal government is made up of individuals, but the individuals here in Harney County are our community,” Frank said. “They’re our friends and family. And I think, in Harney County, we have very strong working relationships between private citizens, ranchers, etc. and those federal agencies.”

That’s something that you hear a lot in this community. While people may have problems with broader BLM policies at the national level, they really respect the local people who work here on the ground.


Source


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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: machineintelligence

are these oregon dudes constantly occupying the building?
how do they make time to do this when there is so much work to do on the ranch?

people are delusional

and leave us not forget that the Bundys and some others are NOT Oregonians. They have crossed state lines to foment their media oriented patriotism.


Is there something wrong about crossing state lines? Did they not show their papers or something?



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: Granite

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: Granite

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Honest question, why are these guys called patriots


The US Constitution is their guiding document...and mine.

What is yours?


The US Constitution is a good guiding document. Selective interpretation of it for one's own ends is not good. There are people in jail because they didn't pay those "unconstitutional" income taxes.
These "Patriots" are just bullies who are in it for themselves and are trying to coopt as many people as they can to help them.


Selective interpretation is actually the best way to desribe Liberals who concoct lame policies that failed just 3 years ago.

But Libs still try!


That doesn't absolve the occupiers of what they are doing. Hopefully, they will soon claim victory, stop bothering the local folks, and go home. Then, the Park Service people will assess the damage and send the bills to those responsible.


Is that what happened with OWS?



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