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Who is going to watch the State of the Union tonight? Who is actually expecting a difference?

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: EightTF3

That is not entirely accurate. He is responsible for the bad when it is convenient and conversely, he has nothing to do with the successes.The is the right-wing MO




posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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wow... the rebuttal by Haley...

sounds like kids in a classroom forced to reading out loud from a book...

SMH



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:30 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: yesyesyes
a reply to: EightTF3

That is not entirely accurate. He is responsible for the bad when it is convenient and conversely, he has nothing to do with the successes.The is the right-wing MO


What successes? I voted for the guy and he turned out to be a snake oil salesmen



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: introvert
Obama is doing well and I'm glad that his last SOTU address has been a bit of a middle-finger to his haters.

Like his policies or not, he's doing well.




It's almost impossible to get a real public perspective on Obama's presidency with so many negative reactionarys.



I am laughing so hard at that. You know, us "negative reactionaries" really are that "real public perspective" that you are speaking of.

What you meant to say is "Its difficult lately to find anyone who agrees with me concerning Obama's policies, so I am happy to actually listen to you, since I agree with you"

You don't want public opinion because if you did, you would listen to those who wont sing the praises of this man. I no longer know any democrats who support Obama, and I do know several who did vote for the man. They are just as negative as am I, it is only the hardcore far left who still supports this ##.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:33 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: Annee


It's almost impossible to get a real public perspective on Obama's presidency with so many negative reactionarys.



The biggest reactionary is Obama himself.




posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:36 PM
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All I have to say is, it was a real snooze fest. The audience, both Republicans and Democrats, looked either drunk or sleepy. The speech sounded more like a Sunday sermon that you just can't wait to be over with.

Also, does anybody else think Michelle The Sleeveless has had some work done....as in cosmetic surgery?

Sorry for the off-topic comment. The speech itself was just more of blah blah blah blah blah.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:43 PM
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THe FNC love from Krauthammer, Hayes, and the host, at least for me tells me I have lying eyes.. and ears...

Krauthammer thought it was one of the BEST rebuttals in history... (smh)

Hayes thought her rebuttal was a cool calm deal in contrast with the race currently.... (smh)

AB Stoddard watched a rebuttal I didn't see...

there was another dude who bowed down to Gov Haley's rebuttal, but for the life of me... I didn't see what they were saying...


arrrrgh.....



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: hubrisinxs
Wow, thanks for that research!


That really puts some perspective in it.

I am not surprised at the similarities with 'slick willy'.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: Kitana
a reply to: yesyesyes

You do know that OPEC is responsible for the gas prices today right? They flooded the market with cheap oil in order to stop American oil production, because we were needing them less and less due to our own production rates. We posed market competition so they are currently doing all they can to put a stop to that. Shut us down it will take a while before our production hits the markets hard again. And that is exactly what they are doing, and why they are doing it.

It is a hit to American production, and therefore a hit to American jobs. Fine for gas prices, but they wont be so low for long, not even OPEC countries can afford to keep this up too long, but they are hoping for long enough to stop competition for a while once they have to jack prices back up again.


Yes, they flooded the market and it sure helps me and the majority of people I know who do not work in oil production.

You do realize that the money saved at the pump will be spent with other businesses that create jobs?

If we ramp up our alternative energy, prices will slump further, time to move to towards the future.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: Kitana

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: introvert
Obama is doing well and I'm glad that his last SOTU address has been a bit of a middle-finger to his haters.

Like his policies or not, he's doing well.




It's almost impossible to get a real public perspective on Obama's presidency with so many negative reactionarys.



I am laughing so hard at that. You know, us "negative reactionaries" really are that "real public perspective" that you are speaking of.

What you meant to say is "Its difficult lately to find anyone who agrees with me concerning Obama's policies, so I am happy to actually listen to you, since I agree with you"

You don't want public opinion because if you did, you would listen to those who wont sing the praises of this man. I no longer know any democrats who support Obama, and I do know several who did vote for the man. They are just as negative as am I, it is only the hardcore far left who still supports this ##.



20 people on a conspiracy website do not constitute the totality of public perspective, FYI

IT's funny because I know a few conservatives who turned out liking Obama's results



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen


originally posted by: Annee


It's almost impossible to get a real public perspective on Obama's presidency with so many negative reactionarys.



The biggest reactionary is Obama himself.





Now that is funny lol lol lol

Obama busy reacting lol

He is busy bombing Iran right now and nuking Russia lmao



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: yesyesyes


Best president of my lifetime.


So you are about 7 years old then?

Sorry I couldn't stomach watching it, so thanks to all for their posts on it



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: Kitana

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: introvert
Obama is doing well and I'm glad that his last SOTU address has been a bit of a middle-finger to his haters.

Like his policies or not, he's doing well.




It's almost impossible to get a real public perspective on Obama's presidency with so many negative reactionarys.



I am laughing so hard at that. You know, us "negative reactionaries" really are that "real public perspective" that you are speaking of.

What you meant to say is "Its difficult lately to find anyone who agrees with me concerning Obama's policies, so I am happy to actually listen to you, since I agree with you"


I'll wait for the educated think tank that evaluates and ranks all the presidents, yearly.


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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: stosh64

Your welcome.

Obama is a Clintonian democrat, and his rhetoric tonight proved that.

He probably has some of the same speech writers too!

I wish there were still politicians like JFK... but America is not likely to see that anytime soon.



To all the others, thanks for your comments and opinions. They were great reading during the speech.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: EightTF3

originally posted by: yesyesyes
a reply to: EightTF3

I will go anytime with you over facts. But if you are a wing nut, we should just agree to disagree.


Go ahead and shoot. I've never voted republican in my life. I just refuse to vote for Hillary so I don't think I qualify as a wing nut


Ok, There is a lot to cover.

When Obama was elected the US auto industry was teetering on the edge of disappearing, despite the fact that the industry was originally pioneered in America. A Collapse of this industry would have destroyed millions of manufacturing, distribution and maintainence jobs. That DID NOT HAPPEN specifically because the president took action despite political headwinds.

Today domestic production is double what it was 6 years ago.

Here is an article from Forbes magazine


After the best sales year since 2006, the U.S. auto industry is looking forward to a strong 2015, with sales likely to top 17 million units. A better economy, rising consumer confidence and easier access to credit have created ideal market conditions for carmakers and put the 2009 crisis firmly in the rearview mirror.


www.forbes.com...

So you are here saying Obama's policies are crap, please explain how this result is bad?

Lets do this mang
edit on 12-1-2016 by yesyesyes because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: yesyesyes

There is a difference between jobs which produce something and jobs that simply eat off other people (for example: the service industry sector, which is currently about 80 percent of this nations jobs) Creating unemployment prior to having jobs to fill the gap left by job loss is not a good thing.

Right now, solar energy is prohibitively expensive, running about 4 dollars a watt hour verses the 12 cents per watt hour of regular electricity, so we have a very long road before we get to various alternative energy forms that the masses can afford, in any form. Until we can have affordable alternative energy that is just as efficient as what we are currently utilizing, then oil it is. Plus, we use oil for much more than simply fuel, we use it in plastics and everything else.

Plus, in a free market economy, you cannot force people to manufacture nor buy, what you want them to. They will manufacture what people will be able to buy, and they will buy what they can afford.



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