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Why Bernie Sanders Has Excellent Chance of Winning Now

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

No, I was wondering if social programs line the pockets of the wealthy and used welfare as an example. Tell me, what is Sanders gonna spend all that money on?



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: MotherMayEye

No, I was wondering if social programs line the pockets of the wealthy and used welfare as an example. Tell me, what is Sanders gonna spend all that money on?


First, tell me how millions of Obama stimulus dollars went to phantom districts and how was it spent?

Millions of dollars earmarked for investing in our infrastructure just disappeared and the only explanation we got was that some recipients typed in the wrong zip code.

If we don't have the very basic Congressional spending oversight in place, why should anyone trust Congress with spending even greater sums?

But, I will answer your question...if you can keep the people in a cycle of social welfare poverty, then you eliminate a major portion of the competitive workforce. The poor put their social welfare dollars back in the pockets of the wealthy, to survive, and there is no promise of breaking the cycle.

BTW, Bernie has a $3 trillion stimulus plan -- if memory serves.


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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well Secretary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea are beginning to 'misrepresent' (cough-cought lie) about Senator Sander's Medicare for All proposal.

www.commondreams.org...

... so they are certainly concerned.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom


The world-at-large would like to see a softer, friendlier, less moronic and sensible America with more democratic socialist policies like it's European ancestors.


Is this... Supposed to be a bad thing? I'm confused. Being "Softer" and "Friendlier" does not beget being "Weaker."



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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For those of you 'feeling the burn' I'm sure there is an ointment or cream for that.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
For those of you 'feeling the burn' I'm sure there is an ointment or cream for that.







posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Sanders Medicare plan IS a joke.

It does nothing to end poverty.




posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

The blood of the crucified 0.1%, performed upon the Sabbath, distilled with wine and honey, also maketh an excellent treatment.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: FyreByrd

Sanders Medicare plan IS a joke.

It does nothing to end poverty.



It's a healthcare reform.

Why is it meant to end poverty?



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: pteridine




This all presumes that the GOP, the stupidest political party in memory, will suddenly get smart and figure out how to get elected by not polarizing the electorate with their inability to negotiate and work toward the good of the country, for a change.

Not a bad analysis, but they can't bump off Da Donald in a brokered convention a lot of Republicans will simply walk or sit on their hands come super Tuesday ,the country is not in an establishment mood, and both Da Donald and Bernie reflect that.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
originally posted by: xuenchen

It's a healthcare reform.

Why is it meant to end poverty?


Because poverty is the main problem.

Why can't American Socialists propose plans that would solve everything in one swoop instead of playing endless games with the public.

((( see what I mean .... on your thread here




posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 02:14 AM
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The people who run our country dont care what the people want. It will be a Bush Clinton election mark my words. They control the voting machines and the electoral college. There is no vote. Its an illusion that you have a choice.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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Sanders is a career politician, and as such he will be forced to play ball with his party or get railroaded like Ron Paul.
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 09:41 AM
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Sanders can't get elected unless a majority of America actually wants to s**tcan everything that America is. America is a competitive, capitalist, private property, minimal govt template.

If you can scrape up enough malcontents and cretins who want to dismantle that, and instead have something more like Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea, then have at it.

I believe that the majority of America is decent, intelligent, and knows that we've had the best country in world history, and will vote for somebody to restore America's original framework. Not destroy it and start over foolishly.

And spare me the "we're already socialist" crap. Yeah, we actually give more to our people (and everybody else's people) than anybody ever has. But it's simply because of the largesse of capitalism, not the dumbness of the failed marx theory.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: stevieray

America is an Oligarchy.

Fact.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 09:48 AM
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Bernie also has a little problem with his beliefs about women and sexuality, and corrupt nepotism with public funds.

Both, if done / said by a republican, would be a major front page blowup for 8 months.

They will be big in a Trump / Cruz commercial, I promise.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 09:56 AM
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With the corruption and nepotism and crony capitalism that's been inserted into US govt, sure, there's a whiff of oligarchy anymore.

The constitution (and simply the damned law), if followed, should guard against that. But it isn't followed much anymore.

That's why Cruz, Paul, Sessions, and similar people actually talk about renewing our adherence to the constitution.

So what do they get for that ? Labeled as "extremists" by 100% of the dem party and 90% of the GOP.

Trump at least inherently abides by several of the constitution's most central themes. Capitalism with minimal govt meddling / corruption.....strong national defense and global presence.....strong immigration controls and laws.....etc. He's not a great conservative, but he just happens to be focused on the issues that matter most, at the moment.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: stevieray

No, it's not a "whiff." The United States is a confirmed Oligarchy.

Really? Cruz has spoken out against the Patriot Act? I may have to up my opinion of him, slightly.

Trump participated in Government corruption himself.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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Fact....confirmed.

Glad we have you here as the "decider".

America has no official ruling family or cabal. Yeah, certain groups are always vying for that honor. Roosevelts, Kennedies, Clintons, Bushes, the biggest corporations (many in Obama's pocket), now the DC crowd that plans to stay there 50-60 years.

But no, not an oligarchy as a matter of fact. Those who try to make it so, they come and go thankfully.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: stevieray

I'm not the "decider." Princeton University is.




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