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Why Bernie Sanders Has Excellent Chance of Winning Now

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 02:42 PM
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Power and money aren't mutually exclusive either...I mean, sure a lot of the time you see people with both...but there are wealthy people without much "power" and powerful people without insane wealth.

Generally, you need to have the wealth to get the power. Something something Tony Montana from Scarface.




posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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amazing that nobody is talking about getting rid of the republican governors in 31 of 50 states, or the senate republican majority, or the house republican majority, or the republican majority in the supreme court....it's the presidency of one democrat in power, that is of such consternation.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

That's going to require redistricting the districts throughout the country again. Right now they are heavily gerrymandered to win seats for Republican politicians on a broad scale.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

They are not mutually exclusive. But I suspect there are much more powerful positions within the shadow global government that we aren't privy to understanding.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx
amazing that nobody is talking about getting rid of the republican governors in 31 of 50 states, or the senate republican majority, or the house republican majority, or the republican majority in the supreme court....it's the presidency of one democrat in power, that is of such consternation.



A partisan divided nation garners results that benefit the elite. Together the two parties can pretend to only agree on that which benefits those with the most wealth.

The Affordable Care Act, as passed, is a perfect example.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: pteridine
The GOP wants to run against Bernie where they have a better chance of winning.


Bernie has consistently polled better against republicans than Hillary.


Polls, now, are unsettled as there is no clearly defined contest. I believe that the GOP fears Hilary more than Bernie and would love to have her gone from the race.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 03:18 PM
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I would agree it is too early to rely on polls. But they sure don't indicate the GOP should fear Hillary any more than Bernie.

In fact, there is far more to attack Hillary on than Bernie and he will emerge with such a gosh-darn likable image, it's going to be hard for the GOP to dig into him.

But I can appreciate that you have your own opinion! =)



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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*sigh*

At the end of the day, when it really comes down to it ... it's a popularity contest, nothing more. It's just like prom king or student body president.

People always side with who they think is the winner. People also support the person that everyone around them supports. People have hive-like-herd mentalities. If someone is perceived a "winner" -- then that's the person they'll go with.

When doctors examine people's brains, they can't tell the difference between an athlete that's just won something, or their supporter/spectator rooting for them. The same areas light up in the brain and the same chemicals are released. When your team wins, you feel like you've won too. People like to win. People like to side with the winner.

And now, politics is practically a national pastime like baseball or football...complete with "teams". It's disgusting, sickening and tiresome. I already hate organized professional sports. I don't need more rabid people chanting and ranting about something someone else is doing, achieving glory by proxy through them.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: Spider879



Why Bernie Sanders Has Excellent Chance of Winning Now


The election is... roughly, ten months distant.
In the last ten months, Trump rose from nowhere, Hillary fell to nowhere and Jeb Bush rides around in his Daddy's Limo, staying in a race that he has no chance of winning... unless every other candidate gets washed into a cesspool.

Picking any candidate at this point is reaching into that cesspool for a handful... IMESHO, that is



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
And now, politics is practically a national pastime like baseball or football...complete with "teams". It's disgusting, sickening and tiresome. I already hate organized professional sports. I don't need more rabid people chanting and ranting about something someone else is doing, achieving glory by proxy through them.


I have used this analogy so many times. The problem is most partisan fans care more about making sure 'the other team' loses than rooting for a really great team/player.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Spider879

Of course Bernie is going to win. When will people learn that the candidate with the biggest spending plan is the Establishment's Choice. The Establishment is Congress. They do the spending and misappropriate & divert America's wealth into the pockets of the Elite.

Bernie may (or may not) be anti-Establishment, but the Establishment loves Bernie and his $18 trillion spending plan.

Bernie has been the Chosen One all along. Hillary dragged Obama across the finish line in 2008, too, when she left her name on the Michigan ballot while Obama removed his. She's just playing along again.

It's all smoke and mirrors and people only clue in to what they are supposed to clue in to -- all according to plan.


Wait, so you're telling me that Congress is the Establishment and they decide who is gonna be in office? That's one weird outlook on the Establishment because everyone knows Congress is made up of puppets bought at basement bargain prices but they're the Establishment? No, they're the fake establishment. The real Establishment are the wealthy and that should come as no surprise because in human history the most power and corrupt rulers are also the wealthiest.

And the real Establishment does not want Sanders in office at all. Breaking up Big Banks sound like something the Establishment wants? Jesus, this guy is going after the god damn banks! That alone gets my vote.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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True, but like Ron Paul, Sanders seems authentic about making changes and getting teh job done. I agree elections are popularity contests and if Sanders wasn't in this race I'd be left with no one to vote for care about. So I'm gonna vote for him and if he does become president I'm gonna be watching him closely to see if he lives up to his campaign promises AND we all know how well past presidents have lived up to theirs. If he does't fulfill those promises he will be the biggest let down president in US history, imo.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: Swills

Wait, so you're telling me that Congress is the Establishment and they decide who is gonna be in office? That's one weird outlook on the Establishment because everyone knows Congress is made up of puppets bought at basement bargain prices but they're the Establishment? No, they're the fake establishment. The real Establishment are the wealthy and that should come as no surprise because in human history the most power and corrupt rulers are also the wealthiest.

And the real Establishment does not want Sanders in office at all. Breaking up Big Banks sound like something the Establishment wants? Jesus, this guy is going after the god damn banks! That alone gets my vote.


Yeah. I agree that Congress does the bidding for the wealthy. So, yeah, they 100% represent the Establishment and what the Establishment wants.

Not sure how that is fake. They spend the money and divert America's resources to the wealthy.

Going after big banks....lol. Like that will have any effect when Congress just spends the money right back in their direction.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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If you agree Congress is bought and paid for why would you say they're the establishment? If fake isn't gonna work for ya then I'll say it another way, congress represents the establishment and not the people. Therefore, Sanders is obviously not the establishments choice because he is targeting the establishment. Every other candidate, besides Paul, is the choice of the establishment. Sanders represents the people, hence his extremely successful grassroots campaign.


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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:07 PM
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Again, Bernie has the biggest spending plan: $18 trillion. Congress will be diverting those resources...

As always, that money will be diverted to the wealthiest. It always is. There is no spending oversight and partisans are too busy bickering to demand any.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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I think you may be onto something. People think to small. Globalists don't have aliegence to any one country, and they are some of the most powerful people in the world. Spending = good. If the Globalists like Bernie, he's in.

The world-at-large would like to see a softer, friendlier, less moronic and sensible America with more democratic socialist policies like it's European ancestors.

America is moving the direction Europe is now. We've always followed in the footsteps of Europe, now is not any different. Five it 30 years or so...America will look like Europe today by then.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879



Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are also close to even among likely voters in Iowa and New Hampshire

Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are neck and neck in both Iowa and New Hampshire, a new poll has found.

Clinton is slightly ahead among likely Democratic voters in Iowa with a 48%-to-45% lead over the Vermont senator, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Marist poll. However, Sanders is narrowly beating the former Secretary of State among likely primary voters in New Hampshire with 50% support compared Clinton’s 46%, the survey shows. Both leads in the early voting states are within the poll’s margins of error, the Wall Street Journal reports.

“The Democratic contests in Iowa and New Hampshire could still go either way,” Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, told the newspaper. “If your New Year’s resolution was to have clarity in 2016, you better also have resolved to be patient.”
time.com...

Those running against da Bern will be Burnt..ex; folks like Hillary and da Donald, I am convinced that barring foul play or some really stupid mistakes from Bernie or his team he got this.


Donald buried Hillary for calling him sexist in like one discussion. He can put Bernie down twice as fast. Donald is actually an intelligent human I mean really intelligent. It is a shame he was not a scientist.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:21 PM
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I just don't at all understand your line of thought here. Sanders is going after the wealthy and not looking to line their pockets. Whats your basis for this? Is it all based on the fact he's clearly pro social programs? Are people on welfare lining the wealthiest of people's pockets?


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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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Mmmmmmm Trump does taste great! Too bad he's filled with artificial flavoring!



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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You think Bernie plans to spend $18 trillion on welfare????



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