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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: intrptr
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy
Er... Isn't JFK considered one of the best presidents the US has ever had?
Bernie isn't saying to believe in him, he's saying to work with him.
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: machineintelligence
Yes, Hillary Clinton. She is 68. I will, still, however, not be supporting her.
Vote for what you want, not what you think is "realistic". Sanders is special because he says "Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.
originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
"Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.
When Ron Paul ran for prez in 2008, he told people repeatedly that politicians can't magically change the world simply by being elected. The people need to bring about change.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: machineintelligence
Yes, Hillary Clinton. She is 68. I will, still, however, not be supporting her.
Vote for what you want, not what you think is "realistic". Sanders is special because he says "Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.
How have you never heard the term "grass roots movement" before? Seriously? I don't remember the last election that term WASN'T used. Acting as if Sanders has somehow invented the concept is just plain silly.
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: machineintelligence
Yes, Hillary Clinton. She is 68. I will, still, however, not be supporting her.
Vote for what you want, not what you think is "realistic". Sanders is special because he says "Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.
How have you never heard the term "grass roots movement" before? Seriously? I don't remember the last election that term WASN'T used. Acting as if Sanders has somehow invented the concept is just plain silly.
Young and naïve. Part of the appeal is the illusion of something new and fresh, but it never is.
Lipstick on a commie, that is Bernie.
originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
He said he will not accept them....
www.newsmax.com...
However, He accepts Union monies already. He did in previous elections. There are also PAC's that are spending money to promote him right now.
www.cnn.com...
www.theatlantic.com...
The difference is he is not 'officially' recognizing them but the money is out there and promoting him. Learn our candidate.
Campaign aides would not say whether that meant the campaign would ask the super PAC to stop its spending. While the campaign is not able to tell the group what to do, a public statement disavowing the super PAC would send the pro-Sanders group a clear signal.
National Nurses United super PAC is different than those supporting other candidates, like Priorities USA, a PAC backing Hillary Clinton, and Right to Rise, a group backing Jeb Bush. Both of those organizations have raised millions of dollars with the blessing of their respective candidates and are generally run by former aides.
"What I have said over and over again is that I have not and will not raise a nickel for a super PAC," Sanders said. "I am the only Democratic candidate who does not have a super PAC. I will not have a super PAC. They are nurses and they are fighting for the health care of their people. They are doing what they think is appropriate. I do not have a super PAC."
originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
I think he is very, very old. I also think he is rather idealistic and unrealistic. Hillery is very old as well.
Is there no one under 70 that the dems can field for president?
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: ColeYounger
I was not aware of that. It seems that Ron Paul was actually a better candidate than I thought. He was right, but he came too early. The boiling point had not yet been reached.
Is there peace on Earth now?
What I see is an Earth embroiled in massive turmoil
with the politically inactive US as one of the largest instigators of that conflict.
I think you are mistaking "politically active" with "politically extreme."
When I (and Bernie) say "politically active", he means everyone going and holding their representative's feet to the fire, and forcing them to not bring about things like the TPP. I think you are mistaking "politically active" with "politically extreme."
When I (and Bernie) say "politically active", he means everyone going and holding their representative's feet to the fire, and forcing them to not bring about things like the TPP.
originally posted by: antar
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
Something just grates against me when it comes to Bernie. Something is terribly wrong. I know this.