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Mr. Unelectable Won Another Huge Endorsement

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:26 AM
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The early primaries and caucuses will be very close. I don't think that Bernie will back down just because he loses a state by a few thousand here and there. I personally don't know anyone excited about or voting for Clinton. Of the repubs I know, at least ten have switched party affiliation to vote Sanders instead of Participating in thinning the clown car that Trump is driving.




posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: intrptr


"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy


Er... Isn't JFK considered one of the best presidents the US has ever had?

Bernie isn't saying to believe in him, he's saying to work with him.

You must be very young, older people have seen this enough times to know its all a sham.

I gave two examples how politicians 'need your help' and 'promise change' in order to get elected.

JFK wanted to stop the war in Vietnam from happening. Thats why he was assassinated. His brother wanted to end it, and thats why they killed him. Since then, politicians don't campaign for ending war. Obama made some promise about Afghanistan, but couldn't even close Guantanamo.

I don't hear any campaigning coming from any candidate about ending any war, do you?



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

He said he will not accept them....

www.newsmax.com...

However, He accepts Union monies already. He did in previous elections. There are also PAC's that are spending money to promote him right now.

www.cnn.com...

www.theatlantic.com...

The difference is he is not 'officially' recognizing them but the money is out there and promoting him. Learn our candidate.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:50 AM
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And this from moveon.org ? You know who owns them , right ? George Soros....go figure



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: machineintelligence

Yes, Hillary Clinton. She is 68. I will, still, however, not be supporting her.

Vote for what you want, not what you think is "realistic". Sanders is special because he says "Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.


How have you never heard the term "grass roots movement" before? Seriously? I don't remember the last election that term WASN'T used. Acting as if Sanders has somehow invented the concept is just plain silly.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn


How do you get to Hillary's idea of America?

Take the exit marked hell and then lose the will to live.


I am not a fan of Sanders but at least he has credibility AND IS CONSISTENT...



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Hillary must be shIttIng her pantsuit. The same thing is happening now with Bernie that happened against Obama in '08. Bet she never saw this coming in her wildest hallucinations.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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So, Soros is backing Bernie.

He really has a thing for screwing Hillary.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn




"Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.


When Ron Paul ran for prez in 2008, he told people repeatedly that politicians can't magically change the world simply by being elected. The people need to bring about change.


First you slam on Sanders citing an opinion piece, then talk about Ron Paul?

Let me tell you a secret. The whole, "he's no different, he's too extreme, he's a CAREER-POLITICIAN," we're the exact words/phrases used in the smear campaign against Dr. Ron Paul.

I don't know where Bernie Sanders said anything about "magically changing the world," I think you fabricated this as is trying to be clever, but the same people who threw rocks at Dr. Ron Paul were some of the first to put their vote into Moneybags/Obummer ticket, and are now amongst the first that are screaming about how Obummer needs to get out.

And also... I love the BS people peddle, as if they, too, are running for president. "The people need to enact that change," - oh - you mean like a grassroots movement that has raised - how many more millions than Paul's campaign, now?

You mean, those people? Or are those not "your," "we the people?"

And lastly, Ron Paul was smeared for being too "extreme," as is Sanders for being a "Communism."

Ron Paul was "extreme," because he wanted to abolish to income tax and audit the IRS/FED.
Sanders is a "Communist," because he believes in healthcare and education, and somehow - him becoming president would unravel the U.S. into a ruthless authoritarian Communist-Fascist regime (according to some).

But then, again - most Americans believe Obummer is some sort of Muslim (which has no relevance to political standing in any public/private office), was born in Kenya, yet have no quarrel putting the same scrutiny down for a presidential candidate born in Alberta, and they have the mindset of, "What did I miss on The Voice last night," so, I really don't bother wasting my time.

"Voting for Trump is for voting against the establishment!"

Yeah - okay, just as voting for Obummer was voting for this, and that! Oh - and this, and of course, that!

All the while; people such as myself and Dr. Ron Paul's campaign stood in the background as one of the only remaining chances of an actual democratic process by an American patriot, while the (m)asses went about their typical business of not actually caring past what the television says in geopolitical affairs.

I feel as if the same machine and propoganda that was used against Ron Paul is being used here, and I don't even think people know that they are participating in it.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: machineintelligence

Yes, Hillary Clinton. She is 68. I will, still, however, not be supporting her.

Vote for what you want, not what you think is "realistic". Sanders is special because he says "Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.


How have you never heard the term "grass roots movement" before? Seriously? I don't remember the last election that term WASN'T used. Acting as if Sanders has somehow invented the concept is just plain silly.


Young and naïve. Part of the appeal is the illusion of something new and fresh, but it never is.

Lipstick on a commie, that is Bernie.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: machineintelligence

Yes, Hillary Clinton. She is 68. I will, still, however, not be supporting her.

Vote for what you want, not what you think is "realistic". Sanders is special because he says "Not Me. Us", because he says that he cannot create change just by being elected, and he needs people to remain politically active, to work hard, and to help him make things better. No one else is saying that. No one else ever has.


How have you never heard the term "grass roots movement" before? Seriously? I don't remember the last election that term WASN'T used. Acting as if Sanders has somehow invented the concept is just plain silly.


Young and naïve. Part of the appeal is the illusion of something new and fresh, but it never is.

Lipstick on a commie, that is Bernie.


Young and naive, followed up by a comment regarding "Commie Bernie," oh my, I feel as if the irony is all but lost on you.

Thank you for the chuckle, it was appreciated, friend.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Something just grates against me when it comes to Bernie. Something is terribly wrong. I know this.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

He said he will not accept them....

www.newsmax.com...

However, He accepts Union monies already. He did in previous elections. There are also PAC's that are spending money to promote him right now.

www.cnn.com...

www.theatlantic.com...

The difference is he is not 'officially' recognizing them but the money is out there and promoting him. Learn our candidate.


Key information I've pulled from your links:


Campaign aides would not say whether that meant the campaign would ask the super PAC to stop its spending. While the campaign is not able to tell the group what to do, a public statement disavowing the super PAC would send the pro-Sanders group a clear signal.



National Nurses United super PAC is different than those supporting other candidates, like Priorities USA, a PAC backing Hillary Clinton, and Right to Rise, a group backing Jeb Bush. Both of those organizations have raised millions of dollars with the blessing of their respective candidates and are generally run by former aides.



"What I have said over and over again is that I have not and will not raise a nickel for a super PAC," Sanders said. "I am the only Democratic candidate who does not have a super PAC. I will not have a super PAC. They are nurses and they are fighting for the health care of their people. They are doing what they think is appropriate. I do not have a super PAC."



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

I think he is very, very old. I also think he is rather idealistic and unrealistic. Hillery is very old as well.

Is there no one under 70 that the dems can field for president?


Depends.
3.bp.blogspot.com...



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: ColeYounger

I was not aware of that. It seems that Ron Paul was actually a better candidate than I thought. He was right, but he came too early. The boiling point had not yet been reached.


please don't lie to your fellow members! We all know why most if not all members who are now voting for Bernie didn't vote for Ron Paul and it was because Ron Paul ran on a republican ticket. Bernie sold out Ron Paul. Bernie isn't what you fools think he is.Bernie is hope and change 2.0 and the same people claiming they wont vote for Hilary are going to vote this idiot in to office for 8 years of more failed policies and ethics.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Consistently bad is still consistent



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn




Is there peace on Earth now?


as much as possible with all the politically active people around





What I see is an Earth embroiled in massive turmoil


I would agree with you on this one...but...apparently...we never had it so good. At least that's what we are told. There was a thread recently on the very same subject.




with the politically inactive US as one of the largest instigators of that conflict.


when you say US you mean Unites States or us ? I really couldnt say that the US is politically inactive
Far from it.




I think you are mistaking "politically active" with "politically extreme."
When I (and Bernie) say "politically active", he means everyone going and holding their representative's feet to the fire, and forcing them to not bring about things like the TPP. I think you are mistaking "politically active" with "politically extreme."
When I (and Bernie) say "politically active", he means everyone going and holding their representative's feet to the fire, and forcing them to not bring about things like the TPP.


No I wasnt. Tell you what...you go out...and be politically active...grill you representative. If you manage to prevent the TPP...I'll be your slave forever


I know I know...you dont need a slave...just the same...I'm trying to make a point...that these things you speak about...are well out of our hands. And this will never change.

To me...as disinterested in politics as I am...being politically active is a waste of my time. I can spend it much more enjoyably by doing things around the house the up my quality of living. I have long ago parted with an illusion of "change".



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Humm, Change and hope, I think that I heard that before, hum, yeah, I remember now, it was another democratic candidate that used the change and hope as propaganda and he won the white house, 8 years I remember yes, the change and hope became crap on Americas tax payers and voters.

You fool me once, you fool me twice, but not a third time.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

I am aware of what the article says, and what he says. However, There are PAC's, even if he does not want to admit it that are providing air time to promote him. If you think they are doing it not for a return if he is elected that is where I think you may be mistaken.

Question is, did he ASK them to stop? Nope. If he did then i would believe no PAC's. This is simply turning a blind eye and allowing it to happen.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: antar
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Something just grates against me when it comes to Bernie. Something is terribly wrong. I know this.


I completely understand and agree. The stars and planets have been aligning for Bernie all along:

• Hillary's 'trickling out' email scandal always in the headlines.

• There are only two democrats with any chance of winning.

• Hillary has run a lackluster campaign.

• Republicans have had 17 candidates that were/are all very similar -- except Trump -- and with so many running no one garnered a huge amount of support -- except Trump.

• Trump has reminded republicans that all the others are 'the same' & has spent all his time criticizing the party and turning voters away from it.

• Trump is running an unpredictable campaign & can go independent to fracture the conservative vote so significantly, Bernie would win by enough to give him a mandate.

• Trump has a long history as a registered democrat and DNC supporter, and a long history joining political parties and then tearing them down before he leaves them during election season -- case in point, the Reform Party, in 2000.

• If Trump is the nominee, at any moment he could completely sabotage his own campaign with his bizarre mildly vague polarizing comments, plus he's unelectable having praised democrats so much in the past and supported universal, single payer healthcare AND the highest tax on the wealthy ever, to pay off the national debt in one year -- so that will neuter his debate on Bernie's positions.

***

I think Bernie will win it all and WITH A MANDATE.

Someone sure is smiling on Bernie, because an avowed socialist would normally never have a chance to win it all with a mandate under ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. It couldn't be working out better for Bernie if it had been PLANNED for him to win.

This is not to say I am opposed to (more) socialism...I actually lean that way and would vote that way if I trusted Congress to spend money under Bernie's $18 plan for America. Then again, I don't Congress to spend money under any candidate.




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