In a way it kinda is about other members, apparently other members on ATS who allegedly said they want all muslims to be wiped out or something - but
point taken and apologies.
All I ever wanted was an answer! I'll say in defence of christianity...and I ain't a fan - is that the majority that I know will acknowledge how
archaic and pretty extreme a lot of the earlier stuff actually is. There's a general sense, if you can excuse the creationist types (not that I
believe the REALLY believe the stuff they claim to) that much of what is written isn't to be taken literally.
We don't see much of this from Islam - or, at least - not in the media. I think this is key to everything and it really is wag the dog type stuff
going on here. We find the Germans playing a pivotal role in recent events...like they did in the 90's Serbia/Bosnia fiasco. Many people still believe
the Serbs attacked for no reason,w ithout provocation and simply massacred a group of people for nothing. the media played a pivotal part in all of
What Really Happened In Bosnia
I remember this and the way people reacted. I'd never heard the term "ethnic cleansing" as I was only a young teenager at the time. Naive, lived in
Edinburgh - but at that age where I was beginning to pay more attention to world events reported in the news. I remember seeing on the news lines of
grown men walking across the televistion, looking into the camera and crying.
I now wonder if they were Bosnia or Serbian...I'll probably never know. Point is we're at the mercy of the people who tell us what's happening. We
always fall for it, we probably always will.
My real question is this - there's clearly an agenda being played out. I don't believe for one iota that this whole mess is some unfortunate accident.
So I wonder who really is pulling the strings, and what outcome do they want. But instead we seem to be focusing on a non-debate that nobody can
actually win. It's the political and religious equivalent of who is better - Superman or Spiderman?
Smart people here on ATS often times we find ourselves bickering like petulant brats - I think we can do better.
Just thought I'd add a few examples - most of the time when a Muslim is shown on the news it's to defend Islam. That's a red flag right there, but
still you can ask yourself defend Islam against what...probably some stuff spat out by the media.
They used to boast now and again on the UK media about how Abu Hamza was allowed to spout hatred in Finnsbury Park and how they couldn't do anything
about it...or something.
We hear about the various concessions being made in favour of muslims. Every other week I'd pick up the current bun and there'd be some stuff about
how some school will no longer serve hot dogs in favour of halal something. It all got pretty ridiculous.
Then there was the incident with Salman Rushdie....that kinda worries folks I suppose. I don't think the media made this up, though.
Then the cartoonists who drew the prophet...death threads, mass protests. Burning embassies...it was on the news but I don't think it was CGI,
although I'm no expert.
Charlie Hebdo...uh, yeah there are a lot of things that people are pretty worried about. I'm kinda worried about Germany to be honest.
I reckon they've proper lost ze plot.
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