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Hilary Clinton vs Donald Trump for President? How About Neither Of Them!

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posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:09 AM
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As a moderate liberal, I think I would rather have Trump over Hillary. Even if he is a racist, I think he would probably
help Ameria's economy more than Shillary. She is a scum in a way that is even lower than Trump's scumminess.

However, I would really like it if the people banded together an created a separate political system that was outside of the hands of the PTB, no FOX NEWS, no MSNBC... Until we have five candidates each NOV 6 we are bound to repeat the psychosis we live in today.




posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:22 AM
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originally posted by: yesyesyes
As a moderate liberal, I think I would rather have Trump over Hillary. Even if he is a racist, I think he would probably
help Ameria's economy more than Shillary. She is a scum in a way that is even lower than Trump's scumminess.

However, I would really like it if the people banded together an created a separate political system that was outside of the hands of the PTB, no FOX NEWS, no MSNBC... Until we have five candidates each NOV 6 we are bound to repeat the psychosis we live in today.


can i ask why you think hillary is scum? she was never really on my radar so i dont know much about her other than what she's said in debates. i curious why you would take a racist over anyone, hillary must have done something worse than raascism if you think that way.

i just happen to consider racism to be the hallmark of ignorance.
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posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:29 AM
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originally posted by: vjr1113

originally posted by: yesyesyes
As a moderate liberal, I think I would rather have Trump over Hillary. Even if he is a racist, I think he would probably
help Ameria's economy more than Shillary. She is a scum in a way that is even lower than Trump's scumminess.

However, I would really like it if the people banded together an created a separate political system that was outside of the hands of the PTB, no FOX NEWS, no MSNBC... Until we have five candidates each NOV 6 we are bound to repeat the psychosis we live in today.


can i ask why you think hillary is scum? she was never really on my radar so i dont know much about her other than what she's said in debates. i curious why you would take a racist over anyone, hillary must have done something worse than raascism if you think that way


I would not take Trump over Sanders or Kasich. But I have grown to dislike the way the Clinton's do politics, it is far too professional for my taste. I watched the way Bill dismisses people and it is in some funny way, more disgusting than Trump.


I also know Hillary was a board member of Monsanto which means her connections are to the shadowy entities who have completely perverted America's political system. Maybe I am just in a bad mood, but that is how I feel tonight. haha

Who do you root for?

I too think racism is a hallmark of ignorance, but I also feel it is animal and human nature to some degree.Trump is really very simian, and his supporters are probably reptilian in their core cognition. But hey, monkeys are damn smart and believe money had fook all to do with intelligence.
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posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:32 AM
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a reply to: yesyesyes

Could be the e-mail scandal will do Hillary in, and she bungled the Benghazi tragedy so badly that she simply has no business in the White House as President!

But Trump has no business in the White House either with no viable policies, and a tendency to put his foot in his considerably big mouth every time he opens it. He is a racist, a demagogue, a divider, and a zenophobic who has no respect for women, or for anyone who disagrees with him in any fashion. When cornered he lashes out.

In my opinion, the best ticket would be Chris Christie and Marco Rubio. They could defeat both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in the general election and change the direction Obama has charted for the country. A direction that simply must be changed to avoid disaster.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:43 AM
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ah well i dont really care about bill anymore, he's irrelevant and hillary shouldn't have to carry his baggage. Im all for GMOs, if we can genetically chance food to grow faster and more abundantly, easier, to feed the world, we should be doing so. i wouldnt dismiss anyone that makes a mistake, if their intentions and philosophies are good then im all for them. i do like that she is more compassionate towards 3rd world countries, more than Bernie i hate to say. and i do believe everyone should have access to health care, most other 1st world countries already have that, we should probably catch up to them, its getting embarrassing shouting USA#1, when we cant even take care of our own.

as for being "bought and paid for" i dont care, politicians will lobby and fundraise. thats politics.
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posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:43 AM
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originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: yesyesyes

Could be the e-mail scandal will do Hillary in, and she bungled the Benghazi tragedy so badly that she simply has no business in the White House as President!

But Trump has no business in the White House either with no viable policies, and a tendency to put his foot in his considerably big mouth every time he opens it. He is a racist, a demagogue, a divider, and a zenophobic who has no respect for women, or for anyone who disagrees with him in any fashion. When cornered he lashes out.

In my opinion, the best ticket would be Chris Christie and Marco Rubio. They could defeat both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in the general election and change the direction Obama has charted for the country. A direction that simply must be changed to avoid disaster.


Well funny enough because I personally think Benghazi is simply a political grasping at straws and basically a witch hunt. I can recall another, much larger failure to act that effected the US much more and didn't receive a quarter of the outrage, I digress...

I think Rubio is too keen to dance for anyone that will chuck him a dime and Christie has been proven to use his power to exact petty revenge (a thing that is common to New Jersey culture), never the less I feel that at least Trump won't be bought and paid for, and if he goes off the rails we will finally pay the piper, either humanity or the US. He and Kasich are the honest one's, Trump is just a nut sack, but he is not playing the roll.

I like Kasich, even though his union busting policies are not my cup of tea, at least he is REAL and not trying to hide his whorish soul.

Hillary is completely bought and paid for even if she would probably push policy I was more fond of.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: vjr1113
a reply to: yesyesyes

ah well i dont really care about bill anymore, he's irrelevant and hillary shouldn't have to carry his baggage. Im all for GMOs, if we can genetically chance food to grow faster and more abundantly, easier, to feed the world, we should be doing so. i wouldnt dismiss anyone that makes a mistake, if their intentions and philosophies are good then im all for them. i do like that she is more compassionate towards 3rd world countries, more than Bernie i hate to say. and i do believe everyone should have access to health care, most other 1st world countries already have that, we should probably catch up to them, its getting embarrassing shouting USA#1, when we cant even take care of our own.


I am against GMOs because my father was scientist and he really drove home the dangers of introducing chemicals into the environment. Because we simply absorb it creating a firm basis for todays long list a maladies. GMOs are bread to
withstand a much higher pesticide load which means that, Monsanto can sell three times as much pesticides through its business holdings and that we are all ingesting far too much as it is.

I do like showing compassion towards third world nations, and I think that is commendable, but there is something more base about my dislike for Hillary, like a gut feeling.

On the other hand, and I will be killed for saying it, I think Obama is a great policy maker, but I think his communications
team has been possibly the worst in history.

My neighborhoods economy is possibly more robust than the mid 90s and I think Obama's steady, calm hand can be blamed for the steady clime from the pits of economic freefall, even if these backwards closet racist think he is the antichrist.

I like Bernie, but I think he is too old, because he has a decent chance of dying in office.

Maybe I am be harsh on Hillary, but that is what my gut says, same way my gut says Ted Cruz is the slimiest politician of them all by a mile. (but not as intense)
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posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 02:05 AM
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i see GMOs like nuclear fusion. yes bad things can come from them but if we stop being greedy and regulate farming more, its an issue that can be dismissed. we shouldn't disregard the potential of an entire science because some might exploit it, especially then the world has a poverty and hunger problem.

i too like obama's policy, i will defend western imperialism over arabic theocracy any day of the week, so i like that she isnt afraid to go to war for a good cause. i really didnt want to like hillary, i wanted Bern, but she certainly acts like a president and she's willing to back it up with strong argument. still too early though, maybe time will refine politics.
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posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: vjr1113

Bernie Sanders is a socialist who is well to the left of Hilary Clinton. A choice between those two Democratic Party candidates is a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea!
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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: vjr1113':

Well, after all this time it now does look like it is coming down to Trump v Hillary Clinton after all. But where I used to say "neither of them", I now must say that Clinton would be the only viable choice between these two otherwise very poor presidential candidates.

Clinton can't seem to tell the truth, and Trump simply doesn't know what he is talking about at all, and he wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit him in the head!

Basically we may have to choose between a racist fascist violence promoting Hitler evoking narcissist megalomaniac, and a lying crook who jeopardized our nation's security by using a private E-mail server and called the Benghazy terrorist attack in Libya a you tube cartoon after our ambassador and others were killed there.

"Devil or the deep blue sea." But the lesser of these two evils is definitely Clinton.

Even more awful, however, is the scenario if Clinton is forced out of the race by the E-mail scandal. Then we would have Trump v Bernie Sanders, i.e. the fascist v the quasi communist. Just pick your own poison on this one!



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: yesyesyes

I'm an independent moderate but I'd rather have Clinton than the dictator Trump. Nevertheless, that having been said, I find that Clinton is a phony crony capitalist and a disingenuous untrustworthy candidate without a doubt. What an awful choice!



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 05:10 PM
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I agree that Sanders would be a disaster for America. He is mighty close to being a communist, and he'd destroy our economy and the free enterprise system upon which America was built. The very people Sanders thinks he'd be helping with expanded social programs would be hurt the most. His policies would cause the corporations and small businessmen who do the hiring to massively cut back. Then these entrepreneurs would have to lay many folks off thus resulting in a recession or even possibly a depression accompanied by a cratering of the stock market worse than we had in 2008.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to Yes,Yes,Yes:

With Rubio and Christie both out of the race for POTUS now, I endorse Gov. Kasich for President and Marco Rubio for vice president as the best bet to defeat Hillary Clinton in the national election this fall.



posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to:YesYesYes:

Hillary Clinton used her private e-mail server to hide the fact that she was accepting large donations to the Clinton Foundation from foreign countries including Libya and Syria. This despite the fact that Libya is where the Benghazy terrorist attack that resulted in the death of an American ambassador and four other people took place, and Syria is ruled by Assad, an enemy of our country and a dictator. Donations were also accepted by Hillary from Oman, Kuwait, and other M.E. countries.

Conflicts of interest and personal gain were the tools of corruption she wanted to hide from America while she was Secretary of State. The goal was to build a financial empire for the Clintons while she was on the payroll of the United States in an extremely important and sensitive position in our government.
Sickening and sad!

It is necessary that Gov. Kasich, Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, or Mitt Romney emerge from a brokered Republican convention so that we can vote for a good candidate who can defeat Clinton in November and, at the same time, prevent the Republican nomination from going to the would be dictator, Donald Trump.



posted on Mar, 24 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: yesyesyes

I agree that Cruz is very slimy but a bit less crazy than Trump. Either one would be a disaster for the country, and Trump is a racist dictator and demagogue!

But I don't think Obama's policies have been good at all. He has been an inept President in more ways than can be counted. No concrete effective plan to defeat Isis, and a terrible Affordable Care Act that is neither affordable or workable and which is forcing good internists to covert to concierge practices to name but a few.

Nor can I agree with you about Sanders. While I think he is sincere about his views, those views will not work in a free enterprise society like we have here. Perhaps good for Europe and Canada but not for America.You don't improve the economy by over taxing the corporations and small business entrepreneurs who do the hiring. All you accomplish by this kind of attempted income redistribution is to crater the stock market, diminish the hard earned savings of senior citizens, and cause the lay offs of thousands of hard working people who will lose their jobs when their employers are forced to downsize in order to avoid having to go out of business.

But I do agree that Hillary Clinton is a disingenuous lying crony capitalist and I do not support her. She was the worst and most dishonest self serving secretary of state in American history, far more concerned with building her own personal financial empire than serving the American people.

I do endorse Gov. Kasich, however, as the best bet for President running for that office today. He is a proven experienced executive with a thorough knowledge of all the issues and has a proven successful track record established while governing the state of Ohio.
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posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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Per Politico Magazine, Jon Kasich could win a plurality in the upcoming New York Republican Presidential Primary, and the Governor's campaign also feels he could even win a plurality of the votes overall in the remaining primaries.

I certainly hope so as he is the best by far of the remaining Republican Presidential candidates as to integrity, past experience, knowledge of the issues and the ability to work with Congress!



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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I think that Trump would lose in the election vs Clinton.



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: dude200181

That's for sure, but polls indicate Kasich would beat Trump also and by an even greater margin, Dude20018.



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

I guess but kasich will not get much more delegates he needs to drop out



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: dude200181

Thanks for the thumbs up, Dude200181. Really appreciate it.

Kasich needs to stay in to help Dump the Trump, however. And he really still does have a chance to be the nominee if we can have a brokered convention in July. Lets hold on and stay tuned!




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