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Hilary Clinton vs Donald Trump for President? How About Neither Of Them!

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posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

You bet that is what we would have if Sanders becomes president. The thought of a socialist in the White House gives me a chill and flies in the face of what this country has always been all about----the Land of Opportunity for those willing to work hard to make their dreams come true.




posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

They are not all bad. Chris Cristy has a lot of solid ideas and a strong record fighting terrorism and he is rising in the polls. Marco Rubio also remains a viable candidate with a chance to increase his numbers and has some realistic ideas on how to deal with the major issues. There are also a couple others I could support who are still in the race but their poll numbers do not bode well for their being able to stay in the race much longer. Perhaps the early primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire will offer some pleasant surprises.



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

you cannot be a businessman or a CEO without knowing how to abide by the laws or knowing how to get around them to become wealthy. That's HOW they got wealthy in the first place. Knowing is over half the battle. You don't become wealthy being an IDIOT. SO, your statement is totally ignorant and Bias. Wealthy people don't get wealthy being ignorant. They do so by bending or getting around the laws to get rich. Some of these people are NOT ignorant, STUPID decisions maybe, but Not ignorant. You don't become wealthy being ignorant unless it was handed down to you, they are just very cunning and Manipulative. You need to look at the full picture. I know he is NOT perfect, but you need the right cunning , manipulative person to sway things in the RIGHT direction. I would rather have a good Manipulator for all the right reasons than a very bad Manipulator dictator. In the world today there are two people. Those who DOOOOO and those who run their mouth and say they will and DON'T. Almost all the candidates before election do this ALL the time. Because they have no spine and know how to get things done. Trump Knows the playing field and won't back down when put in a corner. He's a wild animal that will bite when backed in a corner.



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: operayt
a reply to: kendix1960

you cannot be a businessman or a CEO without knowing how to abide by the laws or knowing how to get around them to become wealthy. That's HOW they got wealthy in the first place. Knowing is over half the battle. You don't become wealthy being an IDIOT. SO, your statement is totally ignorant and Bias. Wealthy people don't get wealthy being ignorant. They do so by bending or getting around the laws to get rich. Some of these people are NOT ignorant, STUPID decisions maybe, but Not ignorant. You don't become wealthy being ignorant unless it was handed down to you, they are just very cunning and Manipulative. You need to look at the full picture. I know he is NOT perfect, but you need the right cunning , manipulative person to sway things in the RIGHT direction. I would rather have a good Manipulator for all the right reasons than a very bad Manipulator dictator. In the world today there are two people. Those who DOOOOO and those who run their mouth and say they will and DON'T. Almost all the candidates before election do this ALL the time. Because they have no spine and know how to get things done. Trump Knows the playing field and won't back down when put in a corner. He's a wild animal that will bite when backed in a corner.



Besides the fact that you repeated yourself over and over in your post , you said nothing that justifies what he did...

Great hes a businessman, well guess what, the United States cannot declare bankruptcy to improve its financial situation....

Being a businessman does not make one qualified to be a president....

Neither him NOR Hillary are qualified or deserving of the office, both IMHO are just as liberal and criminal as the other....

FYI a man who is so PRO imenent domain is in no way in FAVOR of the constitution........

Hillar im sure will get the nod for the Democratic party unless Bernie can pull it off and win Iowa

Trump will not......period.....and if by some miracle he did, prepare for an utter onslaught by Hillary and the media utterly destroying Trump and securing Hillary's victory....

Cruz or Rubio are more likely to get the Repub nomination and even though they are not my favorites, they would at least stand a chance in a debate against SHillary Clinton......

Trump cant even hold is his own water in a debate with his own party without debasing it down to kindgarden name calling and nonsensical, mealy mouthed retorts.......

/end rant



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Your right on ManBehindTheMask



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: operayt

So you seek to justify his unethical business tactics and manipulations. The ends justify the means in business. Well I do not agree with such an approach, either in business or in any other aspect of life.

Want to know how Sir Donald really got so rich? Not by being the great businessman he claims to be, but by inheriting $200,000,000. Had he invested all of that in the S&P 500 35 years ago, he would have more than he claims to have today. And what he claims to have now is inflated just as everything he says is an expression of his ego and lust for bragging and bullying.

In any event, getting rich does not qualify Trump to be president of the United States. If all he can do is bite when cornered like an animal, I shudder to think what he'll do when Putin corners him!
edit on 11-1-2016 by kendix1960 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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So you seek to justify his unethical business tactics and manipulations. The ends justify the means in business.


and this tactic and thought process is quintessential progressive mentality, look at the last 8yrs of Obama policies, who REALLY wants another person with that mindset in office? And if he DOES have that thought process , shouldnt people be questioning if hes really conservative? This viewpoint does not lend itself to being constitutional whatsoever...


spot on post man spot on



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder why he is so ahead in the poles. Is it because people Hate him ? Go figure. Yeah, he is a bully, but tells you what kind of people the other nominee's are, you are about to elect. Yes, I did repeat myself. For a reason. Yes, your right. Being a businessman doesn't mean your qualified to be president, but it could be an advantage maybe. I'm not saying he is perfect, he has flaws. I'm saying pick the better candidate. Most presidents come from business backgrounds that's part of my point. I think I will take my chances with Trump, the others just seem to be like puppets on a string.



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder why he is so ahead in the poles. Is it because people Hate him ?


For the same reason Obama was, buying into rhetoric and low information voters who dont look past what he says to actually investigate him....




Go figure. Yeah, he is a bully, but tells you what kind of people the other nominee's are, you are about to elect.


That makes absolutely no sense, hes personally and verbally attacked people who were in his own party who never said a bad word about him until he opened his 2nd grade mouth....




I'm not saying he is perfect, he has flaws. I'm saying pick the better candidate.


No one is perfect, but hes not even the better pick.........so....



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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So who do you think is the best pick ? and why.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: operayt
So who do you think is the best pick ? and why.


just about any of them are a better pick over Trump, other than Bush tbh

Rand Because constitution and experience, his voting record and history speaks for itself



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

At this point in time, I would endorse Christie and Rubio. A ticket with both of them on it for president and vice president would be balanced and provide the country with much stronger leadership than we have had in quite some time. I'm hopeful that either of both of these candidates will gain more support during the primaries and have enough momentum to give them a really good chance to secure the republican party nomination for president and vice president, respectively.

The above proposed ticket would also have, in my opinion, an excellent chance to defeat either Clinton or Sanders in the Nov. 2016 general election for President of the United States.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: kendix1960

Looks like Marco Rubio presently has the best chance for the nomination among my favorites so I now endorse a ticket with Rubio for president. I still think, however, that Cristie would be a good choice for vice president and that he would provide a balanced ticket with a fine chance to win the general election no matter which candidate the democrats nominate.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

So, too big to fail then? Keep dumping money in a failed system that will continue to sink further and further into debt? At what point does bankruptcy become a viable option?



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

If the choice is Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, I may change my name to None of the Above, and win in a landslide.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

I fully agree!



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 04:54 PM
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Trump is someone who gives a voice to the people. He's not afraid because he can't be bought. Politicians fear him because they want to keep their tax dollar paid cars and jets. Politicians want you quiet and inline like good little sheep. Stop learning your reality from the gov and the media. Perhaps take a little time to know the real Trump from other sources!

Hillary is laughable at best. I'll leave it there for you to do your own research on that crooked beast! heh



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: Staroth

Agree as to Hilary, but you better learn about the real Trump if you care about your constitutional rights and the future of America.



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: whyamIhere

Trump was created by Obama who set the stage for a racist demagogue to fill the gap and appeal to all those felt let down by Obama's failed policies, both foreign and domestic.


Trump's ego has had his hat in the Presidential arena for many years.

He has been rejected early and often before the year of the outsider.

Trump is what you get when you shove an agenda down people's throats.

Obama's ideas are unworkable. Trump's bravado gives people comfort.

People in DC need to be fired..."You're Fired" is what people see Trump do.

You are selling the man short. I think he will be the next President.

But, I'm an Independent...So, I'm never right anyway

I'm an independent as well, but I have the same felling about Trump winning that I had about Obama in '08. I just knew he was going to win.

Trump has this thing locked in IMO.

Wait until the field narrows, then the show really begins.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: poncho1982

I hope not! No tangible policies, a braggart, a bigot, a racist, a demagogue, a divider. I think he'll implode sooner or later.



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