The Myths of Al Qaeda

If you're one of those folks who still believe the fiction surrounding our war on terror, read this. It's a brief overview of who actually lurks behind the crime.

The Myths of Al Qaeda
By Kirwan
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In George Orwell's classic "1984," his world was held together by continuous and unending war: In the book his concept was defined by video clips of HATE, broadcast several times a day during which the population (in the novel) was required to watch and rave against the ENEMY. Those who rule this nation now, seek to use Al Qaeda as the 2005 version of the terror created in '1984' by proclaiming the now infamous phrase "Links to Al Qaeda!"

Since the war began in Afghanistan, the administration has been using this completely damning and completely empty phrase at every opportunity. "Damning " because the phrase carries all the unspoken horror, and all the unspecified terror that our Bandits want the world to feel - every time there is any activity that the USA disapproves of. "Empty" because nothing, despite Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, has ever been publicly found, no trials have been held that we know of, and no one has been convicted of being part of Al Qaeda - except the dead. So - What exactly is Al Qaeda?

Al Qaeda was created by the CIA, in their offices in Washington D.C., According to Richard Clark in his most recent book. It was created for Saudi Arabia to bankroll Osama bin Laden, through the House of Saud, "in the Afghan war against the Soviet Union during the 1980's and Riyadh and Washington together contributed an estimated $3.5 billion to the mujahideen."
www.rense.com...

Amen. The gospel truth.

I wonder why those with Bush do not believe this. Is it purely to go against Democrats? By trying to go against the democrats you accomplish nothing and hurt yourselves.
Whats it going to take?

I think I read an article a few days ago saying that USA are still paying the Taliban?

Originally posted by dgtempe
Amen. The gospel truth.

I wonder why those with Bush do not believe this. Is it purely to go against Democrats? By trying to go against the democrats you accomplish nothing and hurt yourselves.
Whats it going to take?

They'd rather check their brains at the door and listen to Rush. It's much easier than actually having to think.

Many of my fellow Republicans are of the opinion that Democrats are as bad as our nation's enemies. That is the thinking of fascists. And they don't even understand that.

What's it gonna take? A Democrat taking over and turning it on them. I mean, come on, can you imagine if Clinton had pulled this shyte? All hell would've broke loose.

Here's an article that explains what has become of today's Republican party.

Today's Conservatives
Are Fascists
Torture, dictatorship, phony "elections,"
and endless war � it's fascism
with a "democratic" face
by Justin Raimondo
The idea that today's conservatives are in any way defenders of individual liberty, the free market, and what Russell Kirk called "the permanent things," i.e., the sacred traditions that have accumulated over time to constitute the core of our Judeo-Christian culture, is no longer a defensible proposition. Instead, what used to be called the conservative movement has morphed, almost overnight, into a coterie of moral monsters, whose political program is one of unmitigated evil.

My good friend Lew Rockwell has recently come to this conclusion:

"Year's end is the time for big thoughts, so here are mine. The most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing. � What this implies for libertarians is a crying need to draw a clear separation between what we believe and what conservatives believe. It also requires that we face the reality of the current threat forthrightly by extending more rhetorical tolerance leftward and less rightward."
www.antiwar.com...

no f---ing way!! Really the Cia and the house of saud started trained and bankrolled Al Qaeida? (sarcasm)

Hey they probably still do, Whether or not you believe the government was directly involved in 9/11 it has become exceedingly apparent that we need to ask some hard questions to those in power because they are lying to us on a fundamental level.

Random articles authored by unknown persons that are riddled with unrepentant bias is hardly the way to convince anybody to see your point of view.

Not all republicans support the war & Bush, and not all democrats are anti-war socialists. The more you generalize and categorize people and groups, the more biased and narrow-minded you appear.

Those of us in the center who are rational, open-minded and bound in reality find those of you on the far-left just as ignorant and insufferable as the "fascists" you so easily criticize.

If you are going to post an opinion piece in a forum dedicated to the War on Terrorism, at least try to make it your opinion, and not someone else's regurgitated tripe. Of course, you know what they say about opinions......

Come to grips with your fear. Deriding those who are trying to spread the truth will get you no where. When the time of great suffering comes, and you are no longer afforded your blindness, you will be sorry you did not recognize the tyranny sooner.

Originally posted by Pyros
Not all republicans support the war & Bush, and not all democrats are anti-war socialists. The more you generalize and categorize people and groups, the more biased and narrow-minded you appear.

Those of us in the center who are rational, open-minded and bound in reality find those of you on the far-left just as ignorant and insufferable as the "fascists" you so easily criticize.

Excellent points, Pyros. You've stated the position quite well. Too often, people take the lazy way out and criticize all of A as good and all of B as Bad. But there is comfort in numbers and that is where many people feel safe.

FORTUNA FAVET FORTIBUS! Take your safety and spin upon it!

So. To the leftwinged extremists that posted on this previously, you ask why those with Bush do not see this? I pose this question:

Why do you assume the U.S. is ALWAYS the evil one?

Al Qaeda is real. I am still 'iffy about Iraq. However, even democrats supported the operations in Afghanistan. I think you left wing extremists HIGHLY overestimate the U.S.' influence on the world. Way too much.

What point is there behind the U.S. paying the Taliban to take the fall? They have been around for long before these recent operations. Why do you Al Qaeda has been paid? They have been around, as well. Why do you think UBL has been paid? He has been around for long before these recent times.

So, I pose this:

a) Why do you think the U.S. is always at fault?
b) Where is your proof for these shocking allegations? (By proof, I do not mean books people write - I want hard evidence that the U.S. is corrupt, evil, and paying the Taliban. Thank you.)

-wD

Originally posted by WeBDeviL


Why do you assume the U.S. is ALWAYS the evil one?



a) Why do you think the U.S. is always at fault?
b) Where is your proof for these shocking allegations? (By proof, I do not mean books people write - I want hard evidence that the U.S. is corrupt, evil, and paying the Taliban. Thank you.)

-wD

Where are is your "hard evidence" the taliban is responsible for any terrorism anywhere, apart fom what people like bush spout... The taliban was probably the best thing for Afghanistan, they stopped lots of the opium trade, stopped warring Druglords and enforced laws which (rightly or wrongly) kept crimes low... The only reasons they where attacked is because they refused to hand over OBL without the US giving any hard evidence and bush wanted a nice pipeline...

[edit on 7-1-2005 by P Amaru]

Originally posted by P Amaru

Originally posted by WeBDeviL


Why do you assume the U.S. is ALWAYS the evil one?



a) Why do you think the U.S. is always at fault?
b) Where is your proof for these shocking allegations? (By proof, I do not mean books people write - I want hard evidence that the U.S. is corrupt, evil, and paying the Taliban. Thank you.)

-wD

Where are is your "hard evidence" the taliban is responsible for any terrorism anywhere, apart fom what people like bush spout... The taliban was probably the best thing for Afghanistan, they stopped lots of the opium trade, stopped warring Druglords and enforced laws which (rightly or wrongly) kept crimes low... The only reasons they where attacked is because they refused to hand over OBL without the US giving any hard evidence and bush wanted a nice pipeline...

[edit on 7-1-2005 by P Amaru]

Give over P Amaru Stop confusing issues
No wonder your points are so low
The Taliban was a direct issue of the CIA supported through the auspices of the ISI Pakistan intelligence agency
The Taliban refused to hand over OBL without firm evidence that he was involved with 911, which evidence couldn't be produced because he wasn't
The Taliban was an atrocious CIA regime best gotten rid of
That's not to defend the invasion of Afghanistan

Originally posted by P Amaru
Where are is your "hard evidence" the taliban is responsible for any terrorism anywhere, apart fom what people like bush spout...

One can only assume you do not watch television huH.

**Please Keep This On Topic**
Thank You

Originally posted by WeBDeviL
So. To the leftwinged extremists that posted on this previously, you ask why those with Bush do not see this? I pose this question:

Why do you assume the U.S. is ALWAYS the evil one?

Al Qaeda is real.

Yes. al-Qaeda is real. So is the fact that the CIA and their Pakistani ISI counterpart created it. Do a little research on it. You'd be amazed what the mainstream media doesn't tell you about.

You guys're gonna love this one.

Apparently "al qaeda" is Arabic slang for "the toilet." Check out one of my sources here:

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Originally posted by Amethyst
You guys're gonna love this one.

Apparently "al qaeda" is Arabic slang for "the toilet." Check out one of my sources here:

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

..or the Group.. or the BASE. Those cave-dwelling boogymen of destruction were named by the CIA. That's common knowledge. To hear the media discuss it, though, you'd never know. They make it sound like Osama came up with it. The elites believe we, the unwashed masses, are too dim to discern these things. To the elites.. I say UCK-fay OU-yay!!

Originally posted by Amethyst
You guys're gonna love this one.

Apparently "al qaeda" is Arabic slang for "the toilet." Check out one of my sources here:

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Yeah, and I heard that one interpretation of the Quran says that if they die a martyr, they will be rewarded with 72 RAISINS, not virgins.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid

Originally posted by dgtempe
Amen. The gospel truth.

I wonder why those with Bush do not believe this. Is it purely to go against Democrats? By trying to go against the democrats you accomplish nothing and hurt yourselves.
Whats it going to take?

They'd rather check their brains at the door and listen to Rush. It's much easier than actually having to think.

Many of my fellow Republicans are of the opinion that Democrats are as bad as our nation's enemies. That is the thinking of fascists. And they don't even understand that.

What's it gonna take? A Democrat taking over and turning it on them. I mean, come on, can you imagine if Clinton had pulled this shyte? All hell would've broke loose.

I believe Clinton had multiple chances to get Osama but he decided not to because he thought it might make others think poorly of the US. I did a paper on that subject of how Clinton did nothing to stop terrorism, I think i will post it in a thread.