Terrorist attack innocent immigrants in downtown Cologne

a reply to: reldra

That is exactly what happens, considering the situation.

a reply to: theySeeme

Of course this has to be the worst terrorist incident since 9/11, if you're a Leftist clown, after all how dare Europeans react against the invasion of their countries by invaders were one minute it is the begging bowl and the next Ali Akhbar is raping and killing and looking forward to taking over the place.

So you look to shift the attention away from the greater picture toward an isolated incident, that it is the Europeans themselves that are the problem, that they are intrinsically racist and reactionary because they can't accept their humiliation and subjugation, ensure that all resistance is vilified and marginalized in order that their genocide might continue.

There is no point in denying genuine division, YOU present a serious threat due to these subversive distortions of reality and are accountable for your actions.

I'm sure if men who feel they may be targeted because of the behaviour of some (possibly) other men similar to themselves on New Years Eve follow this advice, they'll have nothing to worry about:

Keep strangers at arm's length

Cover up

Only go out in groups of two or three, never alone

Stay indoors at night

But let me say, how awful that the men who were targetted may have been innocent. I extend the same sympathy to them as I extend to the innocent European women who suffered on New Year's Eve for no other reason than they were European women.

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: wigadidga
Sounds to me like they are trying to take their country back. That's what happens when you sexually assault women in civilized countries.

The innocent immigrants attacked in this story didn't sexually assault women in civilized countries. Secondly, are you implying it's OK to sexually assault women in non-civilized countries?

Stranger yet, do you have any proof that immigrants mass assaulted women? Where are the pictures, photographic evidence, pictures of 1000 men in handcuffs? I'll wait.

Your agenda is all too clear. Where's the evidence? I don't know, but last I heard there was something around 30 police complaints filed, most if not all of which described a woman or women being groped and assaulted by groups of men who weren't natives.

But I'm sure we only accept one side of the story here, right? The side that suits the agenda and narrative that must be pushed, right?

Your comments and willful blindness make your line about being "awake" all the more ironic.

Oh, and for what it's worth, terrorism has an actual definition. You don't get to redefine it to push your agenda. Horror movies are also terrifying, but are not acts of terror. But I know it's currently en vogue to throw the terms terrorism and terrorist around. Really tugs at the heart strings.

I dont agree with using violence against people who may be innocent. I think they should leave the Police to deal with the real perpetrators.

What reakly upsets me about people denying these events is that if it were the other way round and there were allegations of a thousand German men sexualky harrasing and groping muslim migrants I would still be as outraged and upset as I am now. I certainly wouldnt deny it had happened, I just dint get it.

Sexual harrassment is wrong no matter who the victims or mindset. It is relevant though that they are migrants. Tgings like this on this scale are unheard of in western world. Sure there is rape and sexual harrassment but it usually carried out by men acting on their own because most western men know it is not something they could do in a group because men who carry out these acts are seen as sick.

a reply to: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: theySeeme
I wonder when the masses will wake up from this divide and conquere tacting taking place worldwide(...)

He mentioned the problem in his first post.

The first thing all you guys do is to embrace the problem. What the hell?

Get your emotions out of discussions, if you can't do that, stop.
If you have nothing constructive to say, stop.

a reply to: theySeeme

By your reasoning anybody feeling fear while being victimized is a victim of terrorism, so no I do not agree.

Car jackings are not terrorism, robbery isnt terrorism etc...

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

Seems like youre painting with a broad brush.

originally posted by: Sigrun
a reply to: theySeeme

Of course this has to be the worst terrorist incident since 9/11, if you're a Leftist clown, after all how dare Europeans react against the invasion of their countries by invaders were one minute it is the begging bowl and the next Ali Akhbar is raping and killing and looking forward to taking over the place.

So you look to shift the attention away from the greater picture toward an isolated incident, that it is the Europeans themselves that are the problem, that they are intrinsically racist and reactionary because they can't accept their humiliation and subjugation, ensure that all resistance is vilified and marginalized in order that their genocide might continue.

There is no point in denying genuine division, YOU present a serious threat due to these subversive distortions of reality and are accountable for your actions.

Who said these are the worst terrorist attacks since 9/11? English must not be your native language. Secondly, following your logic, every American Citizen deserves to be attacked for the 1 million+ innocent civilians we destroyed in Iraq + Afghanistan, or the 170,000 we single handedly slaughtered and the 10 million we displaced in Syria. We also raped their women and have even court martialed many of our soldiers for it because we have proof we raped their women.

Americans deserve to be attacked too, right? Following your logic and what not?

originally posted by: SergeantSmoke
a reply to: theySeeme

By your reasoning anybody feeling fear while being victimized is a victim of terrorism, so no I do not agree.

Car jackings are not terrorism, robbery isnt terrorism etc...

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

Seems like youre painting with a broad brush.

Wouldn't you agree that the definition you quoted is an accurate depicition of these incidents?

The attackers used terrorism on innocent immigrants in the pursuit of the political aim of closing the border.

Admit it.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: SergeantSmoke
a reply to: theySeeme

Getting a little fast, loose, and even I'd say desperate throwing the terrorist term around.

Yeah, how dare he mentions the term terrorism... I mean, they weren't even Muslim, am I right?!?

No, you're not right. If it met the definition of terrorism such as the OKC bombing by Timothy McVeigh I would call it terrorism.

Maybe you shouldn't twist definitions in situations that dont meet them attempting to make an invalid point.

a reply to: theySeeme

I wonder when the masses will wake up from this divide and conquere tacting taking place worldwide, divisions like

Waking up into what, doing what?

on and on. Even right here on ATS the "awoken" make up less than 1% of the registered active posters.

What are your criteria for receiving that status?


Did you call the rapeparty "terrorism" too, btw?

a reply to: theySeeme

You added in "trying to close the border" from thin air and that motive has not been established. So once again, no.

The motive could be people are emotionally charged since the mass assaults on NYE. This is a case of assault WITHOUT a deadly weapon.

a reply to: NeoSpartan

The rapeparty is not the subject here. Remember, the immigrants are always the victims. In any conversation. Any day, any time.

a reply to: theySeeme

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
~Ghandi

originally posted by: theySeeme
Seems terrorism is alive and well ( since 9/11

)

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Unknown assailants attacked and injured several immigrants in two districts of Cologne on Sunday evening. One of the attacks took place near the city train station, where mass assaults on women happened on New Year's Eve.

The first attack took place at around 6.40pm, when some 20 unidentified men assaulted six Pakistanis near Cologne train station. Two of them were injured and taken to hospital. They were later released, according to the police.

About 20 minutes later, five people assaulted and injured a 39-year-old Syrian in a different location.

It is as yet unclear whether the two assaults were coordinated, German media report. Before the attacks, a group of local football fans and doormen was said to have discussed going on a “manhunt” in a closed Facebook group, according to the British Express newspaper.

Both attacks occurred despite a heavy Cologne police presence on Sunday patrolling the city center. It was part of “massive presence measures” in the wake of New Year’s Eve assaults on women by multiple suspects of “Middle Eastern” descent.

I wonder when the masses will wake up from this divide and conquere tacting taking place worldwide, divisions like

- Black Vs. White
- Right Vs. Left
- Muslim Vs. Christian
- Middle East Vs. West

on and on. Even right here on ATS the "awoken" make up less than 1% of the registered active posters.

Every day you start a thread about nonsense. You talk about divide and conquer the way you word your threads is to instigate a divide. The way you talk to people is divissive.

You dismiss the victims. You dismiss that most of the middle East except for lebanon, Jordan, and much of Turkey has laws on the books that drastically subjugate woman.

Syria used to be a modern Muslim nation I don't deny that. They had a great record of education and equality between the sexes (like Iraq before the war). However you can not deny and shouldn't in a discussion the massive social problems in many not just a few of the ME version of Islam.

If you continue to ignore the problem you justchoke out the voices trying so desperately to change their culture.

If you want to stop the divide stop being divissive you are part of the problem with these type of threads only meant to instigate fights between people who view things differently .

If you want the divide to go away you will have to acknowledge that some of these fears are very real while at the same time explaining not all Muslims view things like say Saudia Arabia, where yes woman are very subjugated and are often punished for being raped. Literally whipped for it. Even if the men are also punished.

My guess is you have never in your life been to the ME.

originally posted by: SergeantSmoke

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: SergeantSmoke
a reply to: theySeeme

Getting a little fast, loose, and even I'd say desperate throwing the terrorist term around.

Yeah, how dare he mentions the term terrorism... I mean, they weren't even Muslim, am I right?!?

No, you're not right. If it met the definition of terrorism such as the OKC bombing by Timothy McVeigh I would call it terrorism.

Maybe you shouldn't twist definitions in situations that dont meet them attempting to make an invalid point.

I think it is you who is twisting definitions in situations that don't meet them, to make an invalid point. The true definition of terrorism according to the FBI and webster's contradicts the nonsense in your reply.

originally posted by: SergeantSmoke
a reply to: theySeeme

You added in "trying to close the border" from thin air and that motive has not been established. So once again, no.

The motive could be people are emotionally charged since the mass assaults on NYE. This is a case of assault WITHOUT a deadly weapon.

Oh ok. So I suppose, following your logic, African's should attack innocent American immigrants because many white american pedophiles immigrate to Africa for the sole purpose of raping innocent and vulnerable young children on African soil, right?

It would make it OK, because the people of Africa are emotionally charged. Right?!

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: theySeeme
Seems terrorism is alive and well ( since 9/11

)

--

Unknown assailants attacked and injured several immigrants in two districts of Cologne on Sunday evening. One of the attacks took place near the city train station, where mass assaults on women happened on New Year's Eve.

The first attack took place at around 6.40pm, when some 20 unidentified men assaulted six Pakistanis near Cologne train station. Two of them were injured and taken to hospital. They were later released, according to the police.

About 20 minutes later, five people assaulted and injured a 39-year-old Syrian in a different location.

It is as yet unclear whether the two assaults were coordinated, German media report. Before the attacks, a group of local football fans and doormen was said to have discussed going on a “manhunt” in a closed Facebook group, according to the British Express newspaper.

Both attacks occurred despite a heavy Cologne police presence on Sunday patrolling the city center. It was part of “massive presence measures” in the wake of New Year’s Eve assaults on women by multiple suspects of “Middle Eastern” descent.

I wonder when the masses will wake up from this divide and conquere tacting taking place worldwide, divisions like

- Black Vs. White
- Right Vs. Left
- Muslim Vs. Christian
- Middle East Vs. West

on and on. Even right here on ATS the "awoken" make up less than 1% of the registered active posters.

Every day you start a thread about nonsense. You talk about divide and conquer the way you word your threads is to instigate a divide. The way you talk to people is divissive.

You dismiss the victims. You dismiss that most of the middle East except for lebanon, Jordan, and much of Turkey has laws on the books that drastically subjugate woman.

Syria used to be a modern Muslim nation I don't deny that. They had a great record of education and equality between the sexes (like Iraq before the war). However you can not deny and shouldn't in a discussion the massive social problems in many not just a few of the ME version of Islam.

If you continue to ignore the problem you justchoke out the voices trying so desperately to change their culture.

If you want to stop the divide stop being divissive you are part of the problem with these type of threads only meant to instigate fights between people who view things differently .

If you want the divide to go away you will have to acknowledge that some of these fears are very real while at the same time explaining not all Muslims view things like say Saudia Arabia, where yes woman are very subjugated and are often punished for being raped. Literally whipped for it. Even if the men are also punished.

My guess is you have never in your life been to the ME.

No no, my threads are social experiments that measure the REAL opinion of people worldwide who are signed up to ATS, this, for me, is a form of journalism. I trust the warped perceptions and minds of many members here more than I do the media, so here I am.

According to this experiment it's clear that many people are swallowing the media's cawk - without examining what they are ingesting.

And then they get angry and defensive if you simply question or suggest an alternate view point. They guard it literally with their life. Sad.

a reply to: theySeeme

You know what's also sad? That people im my (Dutch) town are advised to escort their kids to busses and schoolyards. That security is hired for kids parties, just in case. Be careful in supermarkets as they flock with many around you, touching and groping females AND kids. You like to leave that out of the convo. You probably do not live near a 1100 of them. Schoolyards and playgrounds are littered with filth as they show zero respect for anything or anyone.

Police? Nada. I'm really surprised that you cannot comprehend why this is going on. I'm not supporting violence, usually that is. But I hope this will kickstart something ugly so the politicians in their ivory towers wake up, or fall down.

a reply to: theySeeme

Even right here on ATS the "awoken" make up less than 1% of the registered active posters.

Source ?
When a guest craps on your doorstep I think you have a right to complain.