originally posted by: Robert Reynolds
a reply to: RedCairo
And do you think that that would be the end of it? I think that whatever force put this together isn't going to be defeated easily.
Well... you're right, it's a larger topic. There's basically "levels" of this.
What I see for the last 50 years is a very consistent, worldwide media-government-lawEnforcement attempt to bring IN a certain energy/people, to
ignore the chaos naturally bred from their culture, to downplay even to the point of avoiding and lying and misleading, the chaos and results, to set
legal and other precedent to further protect it, and so on.
Objectively, this would seem to me to indicate that the genuine power controlling the chess game at the highest level does in fact wish to undermine,
and to set up for destabilization upon command, the whole planet, including the first-world countries. This would seem to be a conspiracy theory but I
am not proposing the why, I am merely observing as if I am a troubleshooter and earth is a multi-division company (that's been part of my profession
so that's how I tend to model things) that this IS what has happened and is happening; I haven't any clue why, or who, or any other parameter. This
simply is what anybody can observe if looking calmly at the patterns.
I don't know what can be done about that though. I mean, whatever that is, is operating at a level that is para- even to governments. Certainly it's
far above 'the people.'
So several layers down then we have 'the people.' The ones that actually have to deal with this stuff at a street level. We're already having a hard
time at that level even outside the daesh stuff. Gang and related gun crime in inner cities and sometimes even just certain cities is out of control,
taking guns away from good people won't fix it, more laws to ignore or even if we didn't still won't fix it, but we can't carpetbomb Chicago and
Compton, either.
Nothing is an instant change but one thing that would cause 'a degree' of gradual easing would be an improvement in economy and a significant
improvement in availability of jobs, which have left our country by the tens of millions in the last half century due to the combination of tax and
trade insanity that puts every interest but 'the good of the country' at center. We'll pay for chinese children to make products and pour their toxic
waste into everything and export it back to us and not charge trade tariff so nothing made here can compete.
This particularly hurts men especially young men and those without specialized degrees I suspect. I consider young men (the 18-30 age basically) the
driving energy of any nation, so a system-wide "you have no real options" kind of helpless rage is very destructive on several levels. It's dangerous
enough when people have nothing to lose. But it's just a big ugly depressing mess when they don't really have anything to gain, either.
Then there is the illegal immigration issue. No stats are collected on a lot of this, on purpose, that always tells you a source high up is actually
trying to muddy things - executives who don't want to know facts avoid them because they already know them generally but don't want others to have
evidence, politics is the same game as business. So for example if you hear someone say something about the stats on immigrant crime you will hear a
response about the numbers which instantly change the measure to ALL immigrants -- not just the illegal portion. This matters because legal immigrants
not only can't be criminal coming in, they have to be quite clean for some time, not on the dole, etc. they are in fact less likely to commit crime
than locals! The focus on illegal drops the "overall" number of 'immigrants'in question drastically, and makes the breathtaking amount of crime and
repeat crime (and much of this violent assault-murder-rape) within that population a lot more obvious as the problem it is. (Unfortunately anybody
mentioning this is immediately dubbed a racist, even though we're talking about illegals from all over, not just one country, even though most of them
do come over the Southern border.)
We also have an open schizm in-country where for example, an illegal immigrant can commit a crime and instead of being deported and perma-banned,
they're often not even deported. They're either literally just released or we pay money to keep them incarcerated, or both in series. (Again stats are
tough but there's something like 350,000+ illegals behind bars right now. Why on earth are they here in our wallets at all? If they're illegal??) And
this can happen repeatedly and even for major crimes. And when they are released there is no notification to immigration/border personnel much of the
time, because for example, San Francisco doesn't wish to do so.
The people who work border patrol, the people who work the law enforcement part of this, are often just losing their minds about it. Their lives are
in danger, other lives are in danger, they work their ass off to apprehend criminals and then bizarre politics and policies force them to literally
just see these people walking around *still illegal, after committing multiple crimes* on our streets. It's infuriating and demoralizing for them and
for the people who live near the border regions and know what is going on. This is echoed in Germany and Sweden except in those areas they get passive
because what else can they do. Here, they maybe have to be, but there are side-effects -- that is where you start getting the very vocal, angry people
who send a bunch of locals with guns down to "help" patrol the (understaffed) border. Of course the media/left goes, "OMG they are all racists who
just hate Mexicans!" They are people living in the middle of a crime wave that sources from illegal (not at all just Mexicans, but mostly 'from' that
border) and under the oppressive dystopian politics that are somehow supporting rather than solving these problems.
In the end, I don't know what Europe will do. The USA is going to end up with someone like Trump as President because he says, this is a real problem
and it needs dealing with right now, and he says that about half a dozen things which are all, coincidentally, real problems that need dealing with
right now, and since we don't have anybody who doesn't seem like a lunatic with a ferret on their head to vote for as an alternative -- because nobody
else is addressing the issues that he is in the way he is -- unless something major happens, or unless the media throws in hard with a few dozen free
tens of mil in positive PR for Sanders the way they did with O, DT's likely to take the chair.
God only knows what happens then but I guess we can all hope that at least someone will finally do something about something -- and it might not work
or it might be a mistake but at least it would mean someone finally tried -- because until now only cola-war bozos paid off by corporate interests
have been in power, and every day stuff that vampire-bleeds us as a nation just gets worse. There is this idea that only right-wing extremists think
so, but I think the coming election will probably show otherwise. (Or, it will just convince half the population that there are vastly more RWE's than
they ever dreamed. Need more gun laws! lol.)