Gravitation under human control?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Nochzwei
This is bound to fail. Electromagnets cannot bend space any more than large inertial masses can

Everything bends space. Maybe even space.

No it doesn't. Read the thread in my signature

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Nochzwei
This is bound to fail. Electromagnets cannot bend space any more than large inertial masses can

Everything bends space. Maybe even space.

If you remove atmospheric mass...wouldn't space as a force holding the cold gases around Earth, cause space to fall in if the outside Earth gases remain heated as changed pressure?

Science by constant holding nuclear reactions maintain atmospheric heating. Metallic UFO formations in the upper atmosphere provide the evidence of this reality.....for atmospheric gases should only be gases...not a materialized metallic interaction.

If the Earth holding a mass of cold gas formed by space interaction, then thin.....isn't the thining a situation that would allow atmospheric collapse?

The ancient occultist review states that the American continent was where the largest amount of radiation hit...therefore as the poles have shifted and America gotten colder....only the ICE mass is allowing America's atmosphere to not fall in?

What would happen if the ICE melt increased?

Antarctic ice is melting so fast that the stability of the whole continent could be at risk by 2100, scientists have warned.


Widespread collapse of Antarctic ice shelves – floating extensions of land ice projecting into the sea – could pave the way for dramatic rises in sea level.

The new research predicts a doubling of surface melting of the ice shelves by 2050. By the end of the century, the melting rate could surpass the point associated with ice shelf collapse, it is claimed.

More on this topicWestern Antarctic ice sheet collapse has already begun, scientists warn

If that happened a natural barrier to the flow of ice from glaciers and land-covering ice sheets into the oceans would be removed.

Lead scientist, Dr Luke Trusel, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, US, said: “Our results illustrate just how rapidly melting in Antarctica can intensify in a warming climate

Metals account for about two thirds of all the elements and about 24% of the mass of the planet. Metals are widely used because of their properties: strength, ductility, high melting point, thermal and electrical conductivity, and toughness.

Planet Earth = stone/metal planet.....sitting in space

Space plasma = plasma body....sitting in space

Earth plasma = Plasma Volcanoes
Apr 08, 2009
The recent eruption of Mt. Redoubt in Alaska calls to mind the skeptical imperative to doubt again the accepted explanations of vulcanology.

"If I hadn't believed it, I never would have seen it with my own two eyes."
--- Dr. James C. Kroll


Hadron collider experiments.www.hsc.csu.edu.au/physics/options/quanta_quarks/3007/phy984.htmlBackground: Nuclear fission and an understanding of how elements could be ... This is much greater than the relative energy extraction in any chemical reaction. ... The fuel is U235 and/or plutonium in the form of compounds of oxides or .... How they interact determines whether they are classified as leptons or hadrons.

Earth = natural evolved nuclear dust.

Science converting unnaturally the nuclear dust...dust was fused as the radiation Earth atmospheric reaction.

Science creates an unnatural reaction.....Earth is only just surviving the creation of nuclear fuel.

Science has new artificial realizations......Earth is not an artificial body.

Science trying to destroy life on Planet Earth.

originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Nochzwei
This is bound to fail. Electromagnets cannot bend space any more than large inertial masses can

Everything bends space. Maybe even space.

If you remove atmospheric mass...wouldn't space as a force holding the cold gases around Earth, cause space to fall in if the outside Earth gases remain heated as changed pressure?

What? Space isn't some 'force', nor does it hold anything around the Earth. The atmosphere is 'held' in place by Earth's gravity. Space does not and can not "fall in" either. This is elementary school level science stuff here...

The rest of your post isn't even worth addressing, as it doesn't make a lick of sense.

originally posted by: Nochzwei

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Nochzwei
This is bound to fail. Electromagnets cannot bend space any more than large inertial masses can

Everything bends space. Maybe even space.

No it doesn't. Read the thread in my signature

Maybe you should read this:

...a message on Twitter from an Arizona State University cosmologist, Lawrence Krauss, has sparked a firestorm of speculation and excitement.

Krauss does not work with the Advanced Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory, or LIGO, which is searching for ripples in the fabric of space and time.

But he tweeted on Monday about the apparent shoring up of rumor he'd heard some months ago, that LIGO scientists were writing up a paper on gravitational waves they had discovered using US-based detectors.

"My earlier rumor about LIGO has been confirmed by independent sources. Stay tuned! Gravitational waves may have been discovered!! Exciting," Krauss tweeted.

His message has since between retweeted 1,800 times.

If gravitational waves have been spotted, it would confirm a final missing piece in what Albert Einstein predicted a century ago in his theory of general relativity.

A usually reliable source.

Soon it will be known that magnetic fields don't have mass, but they can form mass under the right conditions.

I dont think humanity can beat gravity any time soon. Well, levitating probably possible but strictly anti gravity is not unless a device that manipulates space-time geometry is placed in front of the space ship.

sounds actually silly, because there has to be another lead space ship with the device on board that allows mather ships to start to 'fall' into altered space-time.))))

But may be then, here on Earth it can be done for lifting something off the ground this way. Imagine network of satellites in geocentric orbit that would generate and initiate that king of space-time geometry manipulation for air travel or transport for example here on Earth.
Or imagine the highways with generators placed like light poles and cars flying along above the ground.

))

When exactly were these gravitational waves detected?
Interpreting everything under the sun to suit GR seems to be the norm with MS
a reply to: DJW001

a reply to: Phage

The Advanced Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (Ligo) might have beaten them to the discovery...

Scientists struggle to stay grounded after possible gravitational wave signal

originally posted by: greenreflections
I dont think humanity can beat gravity any time soon. Well, levitating probably possible but strictly anti gravity is not unless a device that manipulates space-time geometry is placed in front of the space ship.

sounds actually silly, because there has to be another lead space ship with the device on board that allows mather ships to start to 'fall' into altered space-time.))))

But may be then, here on Earth it can be done for lifting something off the ground this way. Imagine network of satellites in geocentric orbit that would generate and initiate that king of space-time geometry manipulation for air travel or transport for example here on Earth.
Or imagine the highways with generators placed like light poles and cars flying along above the ground.

))

Or imagine huge risen volcanoes erupting with UFO type stone formations released in the explosions. (already dug up in archaelogical evidence digs of ancient occultism)

Or imagine huge earthquakes with rising UFO mothership bodies coming out of the ground as the fusion of stone is released and the crystal's power converts.

Or imagine huge sink holes forming as the rising UFO mothership formed by the converting crystal fusion is formed as an energy body for this event.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Nochzwei
This is bound to fail. Electromagnets cannot bend space any more than large inertial masses can

Everything bends space. Maybe even space.

If you remove atmospheric mass...wouldn't space as a force holding the cold gases around Earth, cause space to fall in if the outside Earth gases remain heated as changed pressure?

What? Space isn't some 'force', nor does it hold anything around the Earth. The atmosphere is 'held' in place by Earth's gravity. Space does not and can not "fall in" either. This is elementary school level science stuff here...

The rest of your post isn't even worth addressing, as it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Know everything your self, do you....or did you learn occult science from reviewing holographic ancient memory as first male human scientist?

I see holographic ancient memory myself since I was nearly self combusted.

The information in the memory states facts.

Earth was a stone body under water mass....the saving of origin Earth.
Volcanic eruptions caused by the pressure of water mass....heated the water...converted the water...evaporated the water and replaced the atmosphere.

As the heated gases released from the stone body returned to space...the emptiness of space formed the pressure system itself...and cooled the gases by force of pressure...hot gases against a cold empty space. The equal state of hot radiated gas to radiation in space. Space also exists as a pressure of emptiness allowing radiation movement and forming gas to move.

When the gases cooled, the cooling function made Earth rotate. When Earth heats from release of the freeze...it spins faster because the heated gases make it spin faster.

2 inherited space conditions can destroy life on Earth by collider experiments.

1. the ice has melted...the poles shifted...America the greatest irradiated point on Earth as the ancient fallout
America is becoming colder and demonstrating atmospheric fall out by huge storm activity.
2. radiation streams heat in out of space due to cold fusion removing atmospheric fusion and placing the fusion inside of nuclear power plants.
3. heated meteors hit America....releasing hot gas blasts.....loss of cold gas release...thins America's atmosphere.
4. atmosphere drops by other countries higher pressured cold conditions.
5. space falls in as heated radiation UNSEEN due to pressure changes. Space is caused by loss of cold....radiation stream drops.....melting both poles.....as radiation cannot complete its combusting effect. When ice melts, Earth would be completely irradiated....happened before by holographic memory.
6. combustion of human life in America.
7. cooled heated gases occur that fall in elsewhere and instantaneous snap freeze happens.

Space is only filled by cold gases.

originally posted by: Nochzwei
When exactly were these gravitational waves detected?
Interpreting everything under the sun to suit GR seems to be the norm with MS
a reply to: DJW001

I do not know whether they were or not; I am merely reporting the rumor. I don't automatically believe something because it confirms my unconscious bias, unlike some.

Why has archaeology suddenly discovered ancient remnants that determine that the ancient practice of using nuclear dust in Ark of the Convenant and Tabernacle review belongs to the destruction of life?

Isn't it evident that if you change gravity or pressure systems...that stone would once again activate into a removal situation.

This situation belongs to origin Earth...and its liquefaction of Atlantis...the crystal beds and also crystal mountains as origin Creation of Earth?

Why is it that huge land openings give impressions of crystal filament inlays? Such as in America where it was reviewed as a past life holographic image to be the owners of the mountain that attacked and destroyed life's origins?

Why is it that a huge impression of an angelic like human male with skeletal impressions is found in the desert in America...the badlands?

Because the story is real.

Because our origins do come from origin light and we were once large angelic beings...who converted their own spirit to become a smaller version of their own higher selves.

Why is it that human beings know and experience spirit manifestations of deceased relatives and animals proving that we exist in origin light.....just so that we can be comforted in our fear of ourselves.

When our ancient angelic brother activated his own conversion back to light....he did not convert back to light, instead he became incarnate and organic.

His angelic spirit sung out the light sound to change his presence and that of creation....and it emanated in the crystal creation of Earth...leaving his impression in the stone that he changed.

Why do you think that the stories were gained? Because the stories are real and we did in fact change our own life and spirit...and we belong to a self destructive persona, for we created this persona ourselves.

Why are human males so aware of conversion changes...when our nature attests that no cell can exist in a nuclear reaction? Because we are spirit and because we caused the reaction by our awareness....not by our DNA as occult brothers have considered.

Why is it that the stone bodies found look like ATOMIC ORBITALS...yet are stone themselves. What about the round ball in the fusion of the UFO like stone bodies? Hasn't Planet Earth shown that huge perfectly formed orbs are everywhere on Earth....Doesn't the Earth face demonstrate huge round holes in its body?

Stone levitation was the attack and destruction of life on origin Earth.

Our occult ancient brother who reviewed his own past life holographic memory...did not consider the UFO activation...for it was NOT RECORDED in the levitation he reviewed...for the UFO removes the condition for atmospheric recording as a method...for it removes the atmosphere itself.

He therefore did not consider the evil that he had previously caused.

He then revealed the evil he caused when the UFO began to manifest and attack his life. His orign Earth life on modern Earth was again incinerated....and his ancient scientific artifacts buried with him in coal beds.

When he re-evolved from his mutated DNA presence...he once again applied conversion of the stone.....and used levitation for building. Once again he began to get attacked...not as bad as before for the Universe and its cold fusion had increased, and the Universe did not allow the same form of attack by the UFO.

Yet our ancient brother realized by his wisdom that our occult brother was self possessed. Sadly for us all he is so possessed by his motivation to be a Creator that he never listens to reason and even ignores real data as self evidence to his destruction.

This is the reason why our ancient holier brother decided to murder him...even though his own person never murdered. He realized just how self possessed our evil minded brother is and he never listens to reason.

We face the same modern day considerations that our ancient occultist practice demonstrates....our evil possessed angelic brother....a worldwide community ownership of the same mind. No matter what religious belief he holds he has the same conscious considerations...destruction of life and his holy spiritual family.

originally posted by: beenharmed
Why has archaeology suddenly discovered ancient remnants that determine that the ancient practice of using nuclear dust in Ark of the Convenant and Tabernacle review belongs to the destruction of life?

Because it hasn't.

originally posted by: GetHyped

originally posted by: beenharmed
Why has archaeology suddenly discovered ancient remnants that determine that the ancient practice of using nuclear dust in Ark of the Convenant and Tabernacle review belongs to the destruction of life?

Because it hasn't.

It has.

The information for nuclear dust conversion as described in ancient occult literature came from the evolution of the first living human beings on Earth. Their skeletons found in coal beds with their science.

www.livescience.com...

The stone balls of Costa Rica have been the object of pseudoscientific speculations since the publication of Erich von Däniken's Chariots of the Gods in 1971. More recently, they have gained renewed attention as the result of books such as Atlantis in America- Navigators of the Ancient World, by Ivar Zapp and George Erikson (Adventures Unlimited Press, 1998), and The Atlantis Blueprint: Unlocking the Ancient Mysteries of a Long-Lost Civilization, by Colin Wilson and Rand Flem-Ath (Delacorte Press, 2001). These authors have been featured on television, radio, magazines, and web pages, where they do an incredible disservice to the public by misrepresenting themselves and the state of actual knowledge about these objects.

Although some of these authors are often represented as having "discovered" these objects, the fact is that they have been known to scientists since they first came to light during agricultural activities by the United Fruit Company in 1940. Archaeological investigation of the stone balls began shortly thereafter, with the first scholarly publication about them appearing in 1943. They are hardly a new discovery, nor are they especially mysterious. In fact, archaeological excavations undertaken at sites with stone balls in the 1950s found them to be associated with pottery and other materials typical of the Pre-Columbian cultures of southern Costa Rica. Whatever "mystery" exists has more to do with loss of information due to the destruction of the balls and their archaeological contexts than lost continents, ancient astronauts, or transoceanic voyages.

Hundreds of stone balls have been documented in Costa Rica, ranging in size from a few centimeters to over two meters in diameter. Almost all of them are made of granodiorite, a hard, igneous stone. These objects are not natural in origin, unlike the stone balls in Jalisco, Mexico that were described in a 1965 National Geographic article. Rather, they are monolithic sculptures made by human hands.www.world-mysteries.com...

Isaiah 64:8 ESV / 126 helpful votes

But now, O Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand.
Jeremiah 18:2-6 ESV / 56 helpful votes

“Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will let you hear my words.” So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do. Then the word of the Lord came to me: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.
Genesis 2:7 ESV / 37 helpful votes

Then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
2 Corinthians 4:7 ESV / 35 helpful votes

But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us.
Isaiah 29:16 ESV / 30 helpful votes

You turn things upside down! Shall the potter be regarded as the clay, that the thing made should say of its maker, “He did not make me”; or the thing formed say of him who formed it, “He has no understanding”?
Job 10:8-12 ESV / 28 helpful votes

Your hands fashioned and made me AND NOW YOU HAVE DESTROYED ME ALTOGETHER. Remember that you have made me like clay; and will you return me to the dust? Did you not pour me out like milk and curdle me like cheese? You clothed me with skin and flesh, and knit me together with bones and sinews. You have granted me life and steadfast love, and your care has preserved my spirit.
Romans 9:20-22 ESV / 23 helpful votes

But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
Psalm 139:13-16 ESV / 18 helpful votes

For you formed my inward parts; YOU KNITTED ME TOGETHER IN YOUR MOTHER'S WOMB. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
2 Timothy 2:20

EARTH = STONE.....the ancients called Earth Mother....the M 1000 other. The reason why ancient UFO ship stone bodies were found in archaeological earth digs. Earth is the ATOMIC ORBITAL fusion holding energy by FUSION...the holiness of SION.

The ancients took the SION out of the BODY OF THE EARTH STONE and got attacked...just as the evidence supplies.

Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for honorable use, some for dishonorable.
Jeremiah 18:6 ESV / 15 helpful votes

“O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.
Jeremiah 1:5 ESV / 13 helpful votes

The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: “Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will let you hear my words.” So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do. Then the word of the Lord came to me: ...
Psalm 100:3 ESV / 12 helpful votes


“Woe to him who strives with him who formed him, a pot among earthen pots! Does the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ or ‘Your work has no handles’?
Romans 9:21

Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?
Genesis 1:26-28
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a reply to: Nochzwei

The model proposed here goes further than GR but considers gravitational waves as well.

a reply to: beenharmed

Uhm, maybe you should continue this on your own thread. I see no connection with what everyone else is trying to discuss here.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: beenharmed

Uhm, maybe you should continue this on your own thread. I see no connection with what everyone else is trying to discuss here.

You make claims about ownership of powers that exist in a natural created state....how can you own such powers?

Levitation an ancient wisdom...all evidence states that it was....a building technique and a secret.

The information was occult known and occult created modern day science reviews.

Modern science created fuel...and caused a small amount of levitation as a signal to still exist.....Ledskhalnin proved levitation to his own person...and wrote about it. Scientists then wanted gravitational forces as a new science...a science that does not exist.

The ancients demonstrate that using levitation for building practices made volcanoes erupt via removal of the Earth seals...that look like stone atomic orbitals or stone space ships.

The ancients in review of occultist practice make statements that they created CLAY BALLS to erupt...and holes all over Earth make the same statement. Their occult statements state that using levitation caused the stone to release its natural fusion on the nuclear/atomic orbital fused state.

Their statement....For you formed my inward parts; YOU KNITTED ME TOGETHER IN YOUR MOTHER'S WOMB. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
2 Timothy 2:20

The statement says, that none of these balls existed until they were created.

Hence by radiation increase...involved in gravitational forces...magnetism (metal UFO forms as proof), the stone burns...and the UFO atomic orbital bodies arise out of the stone graves/tombs of the dead. The dead spirit by occult review is Satan.

In the review Christ - oxygen interaction keeps Satan in the stone seals...by atmospheric removal oxygen regeneration/mass to stop star radiation (Satan also - Morning Star) from penetrating/burning out the fusion.

The release of the HOLY SPIRIT/GHOST....SION demonstrates that it arises unnaturally, releasing the fusion of stone and stone UFO bodies UNSEAL planet Earth...and then volcanic eruptions occur or volcanic spill out.

This is how ancient sink holes were refilled....and the ancient attack unknown. As nuclear fusion/collider has now removed stone ground atomic orbitals once again...SINK HOLES appeared.

When enough ORBITALS are removed by applications involving levitation forces....then Earth erupts just as it did in ancient times.,

As I stated, I have seen many holographic past life messages....one was about being hit on the head with circular balls falling out of the sky. Hence nuclear radiation signals...allowed this message to reform as a WARNING.

But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
Psalm 139:13-16

The use of levitation was applied as a HOLY CONDITION..,....LEVITATION ITSELF...change of gravitational forces. Because of the holy practice...the unholy condition was gained...as the dishonorable use. This statement is a CAUSE AND EFFECT review.

Therefore as the Earth has opened huge SINK HOLES...and crop flattening..like WOOD flattening in forests has happened...it is about time that you realize how evil science is. Go and measure the SINK HOLES....I bet myself that most of them are about the same signal size as crop circles.