Bernie Sanders Hints Elizabeth Warren as Vice President

a reply to: Gumerk

I know it would be unorthodox, but if Bernie could get Elizabeth Warren to publicly commit prior to the primaries, it would be Game, Set, Match for Hillary.

Go Bernie!

originally posted by: Teddy916
This sounds like a promising ticket if Sanders get's the nomination. I wonder if Hillary will chose Warren as her running mate, or even Sanders?

Hell would freeze over first.

If she gets elected, you can bet your ass that she won't have so much as a bone for either one of those two.

originally posted by: boymonkey74

originally posted by: Enochstask
So Commie Sanders and the fake Indian. Now that's a ticket the Liberal Communist can get behind.

Oh look another person who doesn't know the difference between communism and socialism so calls a name hoping it sticks.
People star it also.
Well done fighting the red menace...

Oh look another person who doesn't realize that the Democrats are full on Communist the way they own the media and use government agencies (I.R.S.) to attack their political opponents. Not to mention the first thing they do in Communism is to provide free healthcare so they can get doctors to declare people mentally unfit to take their guns.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Enochstask
So Commie Sanders and the fake Indian. Now that's a ticket the Liberal Communist can get behind.

Where, exactly, are all of these Liberal Communists?

In the Democrat Party.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Enochstask
So Commie Sanders and the fake Indian. Now that's a ticket the Liberal Communist can get behind.

She's perfect for the socialist ticket though. It's "Indian Giving" to a T.

LOL! Thanks for the laugh.

a reply to: Enochstask

Wow free healthcare is communist is it?.
I forgot I live in a country with it....I must be living in a communist country...
You still don't know the difference do you?.
Sad really the state of US education.

Here educate yourself and deny ignorance.

www.diffen.com...

Anyhow back to the OP I have only heard a little bit about Warren but the things I have seen equal experience in both sanders and warren.
Much better then the Bush and Clinton dynasty and trump don't get me started on that idiot.
Idiots will vote for idiots though.

a reply to: ketsuko

Except this isn't accurate at all..

You know just because someone put some words on a picture doesn't make it a fact.

What he would say is that the guy that has 20 shouldn't be pay the same or less taxes as the guy with one.

a reply to: Enochstask

It isn't about giving it to people for free, that is just the tried and true straw man.

It is about using tax dollars, which everyone puts into, to subsidize it.

People always want to talk about taking care of our country first, but then when you talk about taking care of their health and education, you are a dirty commie...
When the hell is this Cloward Piven gonna happen? I have heard about it non stop and still nothing.

a reply to: Enochstask

No they do not.
I'm socialist and do not want to give free stuff away I want to help the people in need of help when sick and out of luck.
I do not have to worry about money when poorly (thanks NHS) and will gladly pay more tax to help others.
Sorry If that sounds all evil and stuff but Jesus would have been a socialist also.
But you just keep equating communism with socialism to push your agenda forward the knuckle draggers will lap it up and star you.

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a reply to: Kali74

I like the ticket very much, your reference about needing her in the senate I hadn't considered before, and you are on point.

dp

a reply to: boymonkey74

No, no, no ... we do not all use and enjoy all those programs.

If we did, it would be closer to the sell most people put on socialism and communism, but instead there are plenty of programs most of us will never get close to needing in our lives, but we are taxed to feed them just the same whether they are a good idea or not.

a reply to: boymonkey74

You are such a humanitarian with other peoples money. Exactly how do you know Jesus would of been a socialist, do you channel him? Jesus would probably if anything cringe at the thought of giving people free money to fuel their drug and alcohol habits. Socialism is the gateway culture to Communism and when you get a little older you will understand it more clearly.

a reply to: Enochstask

Oh look another strawman...

a reply to: Enochstask

From my perspective Bernie wants billionaires to pay their fair share of taxes, stop taking handouts from the taxpayers when they need us then bail on us and move jobs overseas when they don't need us. I don't think he wants to hand anyone the American dream but to give us all the best possible environment to achieve that dream.

From my perspective there are distinct differences between Socialism, National Socialism, and Democratic Socialism. Bernie is a Democratic Socialist. We are moving towards an Oligarchy. What about all the big money that dictates politicians support? What about the ability for huge billionaire corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money to campaigns?

What about all the lobbyist in politics as we know it today? I think there is a lot of fear associated with the word socialism. But again, from my perspective Democratic Socialism still has capitalistic ideas within its framework but has a social safety net and promotes people over profit.

When billionaires openly claim they pay as little in taxes as their secretaries that doesn't seem like a fair share to me. For example: Boeing, General Electric and Verizon have paid NO federal taxes in recent years. Global Financial Integrity, a financial watchdog agency, estimates that global corporations and wealthy individuals are hiding a total of over $21 trillion.

For example, the report explains Jetblue, PG&E, PEPCO Holdings, and Ryder used accelerated depreciation a tax break that allows companies to write off the cost of their capital investments much faster than these investments wear out, to dramatically reduce their tax rates. CTJ has estimated that closing the accelerated depreciation loophole could raise more than $428 billion over the next decade.

They have took nothing from me, still I want them to pay their fair share of taxes like I do. Sander's points to the Scandinavian governments as his model of Democratic Socialism. Those countries are working hard, have health care, education, and an overall good quality of life.

They have produced world shaping companies like Volvo, IKEA, AstraZeneca, Electrolux, Ericsson, H&M, Skype, Solvatten, Spotify, Peepoople, and Wrapp for example. Surely they must have an incentive to be successful. Social democrats like Sanders want to ensure that every person has access to housing, health care, education, meaningful employment, and transportation.

Reducing economic inequality, removing the rigged influence of the rich on our political system, and importantly, preventing climate change. Sanders wants to make our taxation system more progressive by ensuring the rich pay their fair share, given how much they benefit from the labor of others.

He wants to ensure that every person has access to food, shelter, health care, and a good-paying job. I think it's a good alternative to what we have now, and if given the chance perhaps it can really thrive

How is taxation stealing if you can receive something in return? If someone steals my wallet that's obviously theft. I'm getting nothing in return! When we pay our taxes, in return our government gives us education, transportation, healthcare, safe food, protection and a commitment to justice, social security, medicare, medicaid, disability insurance, unemployment insurance, FEMA, USDA, and civilization just to name a few perks.

Democratic Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability. With this, there is also redistribution and welfare for citizens in the event of sickness, poverty, and old age.

What thief gives you the opportunity to decide where your money is spent or even how much? The US government still has to listen to the will of We The People. We choose what tax system and how much if any we should have when we vote. If taxation truly was stealing, there would be another political party emerge to represent We The People in a heartbeat and it would win by a landslide victory!

Listen, we all have a right as citizens to these benefits but we obviously all have a collective responsibility to pay our fair share of taxes for these services if able. We all have a right and what I think is a responsibility to vote, but we also have a responsibility to accept the outcome no matter if our chosen representative wins or not.

Do we not have a moral responsibility to the elderly, children, sick, or disabled? I believe we do. What's wrong with We The People collectively exercising that responsibility through our elected officials and government? Especially, when we can all improve our quality of life and environment through this portal as a collective whole.

When we are successful, did we not build upon the work of previous generations? Did we not receive some assistance from other members of society? What about energy, education, health, and public roads? Did those benefits not help us to become successful and provide us the environment we needed to take full advantage of and reach our potential?

Is it not then fair to pay into the environment and support it? I realize our current system is not fully working as intended and that is why I want Bernie Sanders to become the next POTUS. That's my opinion, thoughts, and belief.

a reply to: Enochstask


Do those same forward thinking people that provide for themselves and their families not already participate in taxation and reap a benefit that helps them provide for that same family?

Do they not benefit from the military, highways/roads, public libraries, police, fire departments, postal services, bridges, garbage collection, public landfills, the CIA & FBI, the EPA "clean air & water," social security, museums, prisons "so the 2% aren't in society with serial killers," corporate/business subsidies "the only type of socialism that is acceptable for the 2%," public parks, all elected government officials "they've been loving this benefit for years thanks to citizens united they can donate to their politician/puppet of choice -- without limits,"

sewer systems, court systems, state/city zoos, The Hoover Dam, The Pentagon, The FDA, Town/State run beaches, corporate bailouts/welfare "Obviously they love the hell out of this benefit," state construction "fixing those pesky potholes/repaving that worn out highway or bridge," city/metro buses, state snow removal, public broadcasting service, centers for disease and control, public street lightning, FEMA "for all those hurricanes and other disasters," Amtrak, national public radio,

The Department of Homeland Security, OSHA "providing safe and healthy workplaces," state and national monuments, The USDA, census bureau, department of energy, customs and border protection, department of education, secret service, department of justice, national weather service, the white house, government itself, law itself, and last but definitely not least Civilization?

These taxpayer funded programs benefit each and every one of us in one way or another, Bernie vows to have them pay their fair share just as the blue collar man pays his -- and he vows to use it much more efficiently than the current state of affairs.

a reply to: Gumerk

Well said.
People forget about all those and just label it all commie while enjoying the benefits of socialism.
Like I said uneducated....or If educated just willfully ignorant.