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Silently protesting Muslim woman ejected from Trump rally

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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

What happened to Diet Coke Muslim? I would have thought she would have had an smart phone or recorded in her pocket to record what she said where the slurs...if there is no proof it did not happen.




posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs



By her own admission there were trump supporters in the crowd who were being nice and even sharing popcorn. The person you are arguing for debunks your statement.

Watch the video and read the article not everyone was nice to her.


He said we should pause immigration, specifically from countries that house terrorists. How is this not a good idea?

Get your facts straight. Der Fuhrer said stop all Muslims not just ones from nations we have invaded. It's not a good idea because you label all of them terrorist.


Last, her freedom of speech was not restricted.

She was thrown out just for standing how was her freedom of speech not restricted?


If it had been restricted, they would not have let someone with a Hajib and a Islamic statement emblazoned on her shirt in.

I come in peace is an Islamic statement?


She was saying she came in peace and that was deception.

What violence or act of aggression did she commit? Oh yeah she didn't commit any that was done by Der Fuhrer's supporters.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

The ones that weren't "nice to her" were the undercover operatives in the "crowd".

The nice people were genuine Trump supporters interested in issues at hand, not red herrings set up by trick professionals.



(post by introvert removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: matafuchs




Last, her freedom of speech was not restricted.

She was thrown out just for standing how was her freedom of speech not restricted?


You people are thick ,you have no right to free speech on PRIVATE property. It was Trumps event he paid the rent he gets to make the rules. He does not have to allow anyone in.
This may be a jerk issue but it is not a free speech issue.



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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: matafuchs




Last, her freedom of speech was not restricted.

She was thrown out just for standing how was her freedom of speech not restricted?


You people are thick ,you have no right to free speech on PRIVATE property. It was Trumps event he paid the rent he gets to make the rules. He does not have to allow anyone in.
This may be a jerk issue but it is not a free speech issue.




I completely agree. I wish many would understand that when private owners of places like apartment building ban the display of flags or other symbols on balconies, such as the American flag, or defend Home Owner Associations that are sued because they will not allow the same sort of thing.

ETA: This venue was a public university facility, from what I understand. How does private property rights come in to play for areas like that?
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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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Are you really trying to say that a Public University is not private property? Thank goodness you are not a lawyer.

If she is a local Muslim leader and wanted to start dialogue why not ask for a meeting? Of course you will say he would reject but he has talked to other Muslim leaders since his speech. Why, because this is a CAIR op.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

You are beating a dead horse....this was explained pages ago..



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

It was a question.

If a facility like a university receives public funding, does the "headliner" of an event at such a facility maintain the same rights as one that rents-out a completely private facility and can therefore deny someone their right to free speech on such grounds?



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:33 PM
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The ones that weren't "nice to her" were the undercover operatives in the "crowd".

So Der Fuhrer has undercover operatives in the crowd? Was it these "operatives" that beat other people that protested at Der Fuhrer's other speeches?



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: introvert
Not clear how it would apply to someone who is not an employee or student.
Winthrop:

Freedom of the individual may be defined as the right to act or speak, so long as it does not adversely affect the rights of others. Believing in this concept, Winthrop University protects freedom of action and freedom of speech for both students and employees, so long as it is not of an inflammatory or demeaning nature and does not interfere with the students’ living and study conditions and the administration of institutional affairs. It constitutes a disruptive act for any member of the University community to engage in any conduct which would substantially obstruct, interfere with or impair instruction, research, administration, authorized use of University facilities, the rights and privileges of other members of the University community, or disciplinary proceedings. Moreover, Winthrop University is commit­ted to improving the quality of student life by promoting a diversified educational and cultural experience for all its students. Therefore, racist conduct or other acts of bigotry are not tolerated.

www.winthrop.edu...

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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: introvert

You got your answer.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

He is not Der Furher...and are you talking about the loud, brash BLM supporter who came up swinging and has been arrested at anti white rallies at least 3 times including a tazing? Just want to make sure because that would be the guy you said was not as dangerous as a 115 lb 'white' sorority girl.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Thanks for the info.



Freedom of the individual may be defined as the right to act or speak, so long as it does not adversely affect the rights of others.


So we then have to ask if the actions of this woman adversely affected the "rights" of others during an event which had "authorized use of University facilities".



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: matafuchs




Last, her freedom of speech was not restricted.

She was thrown out just for standing how was her freedom of speech not restricted?


You people are thick ,you have no right to free speech on PRIVATE property. It was Trumps event he paid the rent he gets to make the rules. He does not have to allow anyone in.
This may be a jerk issue but it is not a free speech issue.



Wrong it was a public event and was held at University of South Carolina Aiken Campus Convocation Center so it is a public University and the laws set forth by the Constitution have to be upheld. You are right though some of you people are thick.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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It's a private property and private operated event. He can throw anyone out. Most of the people are hired goons paid to disrupt Trumps rallies.

The women u named was hired from a organization supported by the Muslim Brotherhood aka terrorists. Obviously terrorists would fear Trump the most because he would crush them like Putin. Not fund and arm them like OBama.
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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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So, since a football game is a public event at a public college I should be able to just walk in right? Why not, the Constitution says I can? That is what you are saying because you need a ticket to attend these events. They are PRIVATE events with security that is provided by the venue.

Trump did not throw anyone out either. The local PD did after it stated that any types of disruption would be grounds for removal.


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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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That is what you are saying because you need a ticket to attend these events.
She snuck in without a ticket? That would be grounds for kicking her out, I suppose.


They are PRIVATE events with security that is provided by the venue.
So the free speech policy of the college goes out the window? I'm not sure that's the case. Not sure what security has to do with it though.

Disruption. She constituted a disruption because she stood up?

Despite her silence, Trump supporters around her began chanting Trump's name -- as instructed by Trump campaign staff before the event in case of protests -- and pointed at Hamid and Marty Rosenbluth, the man alongside her who stood up as well.

Sounds like it was the supporters who were actually being disruptive. If they had shut up it wouldn't have been a problem. Of course, to enforce that would have been a violation of their free speech rights, right?

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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: buster2010

So, since a football game is a public event at a public college I should be able to just walk in right? Why not, the Constitution says I can? That is what you are saying because you need a ticket to attend these events. They are PRIVATE events with security that is provided by the venue.

Trump did not throw anyone out either. The local PD did after it stated that any types of disruption would be grounds for removal.



Free speech does not equal free access to any and all events/functions on public property. That is an entirely different matter.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 10:24 PM
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A sidewalk is public property.
An event you have to have a ticket to get into is on PRIVATE property. You getting the ticket constitutes a contract in which you give up certain rights. IE to get patted down or go through a metal detector, or be removed at the whim of the ticket provider.
NO EXPECTATION OF FREE SPEECH.
You are thick.
This is no different than a movie theater or a concert. Break their rules you get tossed.



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