Minute Long DeJa Vu With An 'Event". Overcome With Fear Right Now. Saw This Before

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originally posted by: cfnyaami
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a reply to: StormyStars
a reply to: burdman30ott6


" I've heard that dejavu is nearly identical in brain wave function to epilepsy and can even be an indication of experiencing a minor epileptic siezure. Might want to keep tabs on that and call a doctor if it happen again.
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From a medical, psychological & neurological standpoint, you read wrong.

Just saying...... Not dissing....
edit on th312016Sat, 09 Jan 2016 11:13:16 -06000116th31amSat, 09 Jan 2016 11:13:16 -0600 by StormyStars because: My message went into the quote

Hello, could you please explain why you say this information is wrong?

For a year now I have been dealing with my 26-yr.-old daughter having what appeared to be 'absence seizures' (petit mal). Without derailing this thread...I just want to say that the brain specialists that she saw asked her if she experienced deja vu before having an 'incident'. She agreed that she does, every time.

To the OP: Hello, and please stop apologizing for this thread! A lot of us can relate to your experience (in one or more ways).
I would maybe advise you to see a doctor, if only to rule out anything physical.

I have also had experience with psychosomatic pain (caused by extreme stress). Even though nothing physically was causing the pain...I felt it and it was excrutiating. (Many trips to Emerg...many tests...results all normal.)
My point is, that you can experience something that feels completely real...but the reason for it could be physical...emotional (extreme empathy)....stress (either personal or world-events)...or something thus far unexplained (ie. dimension slip/glitch in matrix).

My mother had one prophetic dream which came true, so I do believe that it's possible.
I've also had a feeling of impending doom the last few days, and I'm in SW Ontario Canada.

S&F & best wishes to you,
jacygirl

As someone who has dealt with severe anxiety please note that De Ja Vu is scary.... but a symptom of anxiety/stress etc. Trust me. But I don't know if you have stress/anxiety.

I've had the "normal" de ja vu. But these episodes are a lot more vivid and intense. And after them I got a lot of "visions" I guess you could call them. I can't remember them now but they were like flashes of images in my brain.

Also I see some people mentioning seizures. I self-diagnosed myself with psychogenic seizures. Which are basically seizure like events brought on by severe stress/anxiety/PTSD etc. For me, it was obvious what was happening and 2 years later now my anxiety has got a lot better, I not longer have the De Ja Vu episodes.

If it keeps happening just try think logically. De Ja Vu CAN be a symptom of epilepsy but please be aware I did get "seizure like" symptoms from severe anxiety.

a reply to: jacygirl

JacyGirl.

My eldest Grand-Daughter gets seizures from her Microscopically.
When dealing with children, if they are old enough to sort of understand De Je Vous, ALL it means when they are asked if they experience De Je Vous, is the Neurologists asking them if they can feel the onset, the feeling of an imminent seizure to come.

Children and some adults find it easier to answer the question when phrased as a felling of De Je Vous.

It is merely used as an umbrella term for certain people to understand, and my Grand-Daughter gets Catatonic Seizures which we are told, " Feels like Death everytime. "

She does not get a pre onset feeling. At all. It just comes without warning.
They were too intelligent to be asked if she experienced De Je Vous.

Plus....... HELLO...... Worked in the Medical Field for so long, then write the text books, workbooks, etc even yet.

People will believe what they want.

I've had De Je Vous many a time since childhood, nary a single seizure.

AND I DO get premonitions, which are usually the O.P's feeling of a dreadful event coming.

lol! And now he will understand as well, what is called, " Women's Intuition. " There ARE some things we just know which most men are oblivious to though we get these feelings of dread to a much lesser degree, a woman had a life time of this so unless there are underlying Psychological issues with a female, most deal with these feelings a lot more calm than the majority of men who get so very totally freaked out and tend to believe they need Psych help.
Which is no laughing matter anymore than a man will sometimes experience his woman's entire symptoms of her pregnancy..

We women have no idea how deeply and intensely many, most men can feel and react to any kind of intuition whether the reason is ever found out or not, as they IS something that has occurred, if we knew what it had been, may give the same dread and sickening feeling as the intuition did.
Just because we didn't find out what happened, you can bet, something has indeed happened lol!

a reply to: jacygirl

Sorry if off topic all, but JacyGirl AND MrConspiracy or Burdma3 w/e ............, your or whose ever, sorry, I lost track, daughter has only let the Neurologist know that she indeed does feel the ONSET of the seizures. Maybe she, smart as she may be, was just most familiar with the term ' De Je Vous ' than the term ' Onset.'

Did the Neurologist ask her if this De Je Vous gave her feelings of dread though?

Either because she subconsciously knew she was going to have something as yet undermined at the time, happen to her, or no dread as there was no conscious knowledge something or anything like seizures?

There are so many types of seizures that are so difficult to find out what type to be specifically treated for the type.
But still, did the feelings of De Je Vous give her feelings of dread as the OP is experiencing? For that length of time?

Please think. Read more carefully. " Brain Doctor?" Seriously? Pfft! They are Neurologists who often times have their patients also questioned by another, ' Brain Doctor,' called a Psychiatrist to rule out mental illnesses before the expense of carrying on with deeper Neurological studies and tests which are very costly.

De Je Vous for instance,( I will not do your research for you ) , look the term up in a dictionary or Wikipedia please. For all us part of this post so you can both ask your questions with more knowledge behind you.

OP? You are NOT having freaking Seizures fps!
And yes.
STOP apologizing for your awesome post ok?

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Glitch in the Matrix, well that's what people that watch/pay attention to these things call them. It's the most commonly understood term for it.

You were probably shifting between dimensions, or one was bumping up against yours. There can be a really creepy/uneasy sensation about "falling" or "sliding" into a nearby dimension. It can feel "evil" or "demonic" because it is so alien and foreign to anything else you've ever experienced.

Not to cause offense and not to say I completely deny what your putting across to the OP but, what. You give him the response that he is switching between dimensions......

well I would say the OP was otherwise experiencing some kind of hallucinogenic/hypnopompic awareness where things feel real but are just the mind becoming confused. Not that we are shifting between diemensions.

Considering you are what seems like an avid poster, seems a little random.

a reply to: MrConspiracy

YOU. NOT your daughter?

Look..... De Je Vous is a fleeting feeling.

What the OP is feeling, be it Intuition, Clairvoyance, Visions of the future, etc, ARE LONG, FILLED WITH DREAD. NOT FLEETING.

Ok?
The OP IS NOT having seizures! Gees

originally posted by: jacygirl
a reply to: StormyStars
a reply to: burdman30ott6


" I've heard that dejavu is nearly identical in brain wave function to epilepsy and can even be an indication of experiencing a minor epileptic siezure. Might want to keep tabs on that and call a doctor if it happen again.
[/quote/]"

From a medical, psychological & neurological standpoint, you read wrong.

Just saying...... Not dissing....
edit on th312016Sat, 09 Jan 2016 11:13:16 -06000116th31amSat, 09 Jan 2016 11:13:16 -0600 by StormyStars because: My message went into the quote

Hello, could you please explain why you say this information is wrong?

For a year now I have been dealing with my 26-yr.-old daughter having what appeared to be 'absence seizures' (petit mal). Without derailing this thread...I just want to say that the brain specialists that she saw asked her if she experienced deja vu before having an 'incident'. She agreed that she does, every time.

To the OP: Hello, and please stop apologizing for this thread! A lot of us can relate to your experience (in one or more ways).
I would maybe advise you to see a doctor, if only to rule out anything physical.

I have also had experience with psychosomatic pain (caused by extreme stress). Even though nothing physically was causing the pain...I felt it and it was excrutiating. (Many trips to Emerg...many tests...results all normal.)
My point is, that you can experience something that feels completely real...but the reason for it could be physical...emotional (extreme empathy)....stress (either personal or world-events)...or something thus far unexplained (ie. dimension slip/glitch in matrix).

My mother had one prophetic dream which came true, so I do believe that it's possible.
I've also had a feeling of impending doom the last few days, and I'm in SW Ontario Canada.

S&F & best wishes to you,
jacygirl

Hello, I needed to respond to you directly.

I am very aware of psychosomatic pain. I had a pain syndrome for years and studied under Dr. John Sarno, Scott Brady, Dr. Schecter. I have actually been a "Mind Body" consultant and have mentored many people out of pain in private consultation.

I understand what you're saying. The mind can trick us. Maybe mine tricked me. I'm unsure.

originally posted by: BlackProject

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Glitch in the Matrix, well that's what people that watch/pay attention to these things call them. It's the most commonly understood term for it.

You were probably shifting between dimensions, or one was bumping up against yours. There can be a really creepy/uneasy sensation about "falling" or "sliding" into a nearby dimension. It can feel "evil" or "demonic" because it is so alien and foreign to anything else you've ever experienced.

Not to cause offense and not to say I completely deny what your putting across to the OP but, what. You give him the response that he is switching between dimensions......

well I would say the OP was otherwise experiencing some kind of hallucinogenic/hypnopompic awareness where things feel real but are just the mind becoming confused. Not that we are shifting between diemensions.

Considering you are what seems like an avid poster, seems a little random.

I just wanted to say, I have ZERO evidence that I have time traveled, slipped into some other dimension, had an ESP vision, or whatever "alternative' theory that has been floated.

A lot of people on this thread have assumed what happened. I have not. I just described what happened and that's it.

I'm not a Prophet or something, that I know of. I don't think I have special powers, and I am VERY skeptical of things like that to begin with.

a reply to: jacygirl

JacyGirl.

Apologies. I truly did not intend to sound like I was ridiculing you.
I was merely trying to teach.
Have you grasp the true concept.



Which is why I write but do not teach.


Never feel ridiculed. There are no dumb questions, just dumb answers.


Sorry ATS, for off topic, but I feel I owe JacyGirl an apology in total sincerity.

JacyGirl, if you are seeking answers on seizures and De Je Vous, why not begin your own post with the questions you are actually seeking answers for then you can ask away.... I am positive it would have even more replies than this one surprisingly has.

I think it would go under medical but not sure.

Op, no offense intended. This is an awesome post, you are not alone and I am happy that you have recieve so many replies pretty much totally related to your post.


Have a Great Sunday Both of You ok

OP...some information (if you're interested) regarding deja vu and seizures.

This link is to a discussion forum on the Epilepsy Foundation site.
www.epilepsy.com...

This is a quote/reply from one of the participating members:
Re: Deja vu and Epilepsy

"Submitted by 3Hours2Live on Sat, 2008-10-04 06:39
Have you read PROUST? His autobiographical novel illustrates deja vu with and with out the actual memories; deja vu like conditioned visceral sensations from environmental (and internal) stimuli without the associated memory(presently forgotten) gives mystical feelings seemingly beyond logic, as does TLE, and they both can work together to give quite strong cascading sensations reaching illusory divine levels. Sometimes this can be artificially induced during slight seizures with Pavlovian and/or operant conditioning."

A quote from another member, same discussion:
"Hi, just want to enter the TLE/Deja Vu conversation. Feeling a bit alone until I get a diagnosis (if I get a diagnosis that is conclusive ie.)

Last week I had a day of constant peculiar type of Deja vu where I felt I was wide awake but having strange dream-like peculiar images to sum up what I thought I'd just seen or heard (ie in reality). The images were in minds eye, not hallucinations, and were quite bizarre."

I'm not saying that you had a seizure...just sharing some information about deja vu from the perspective of people who do suffer seizures.

One more member wrote this: " - I get Deja vu around once every three days, usually more actually, these experiences are very realistic and the more i get them the more i feel there leading up to something bad? Wow that sounds nuts but it's true."

jacygirl

a reply to: jacygirl

One more quote from a reply (same site as above). You might find this one interesting.

"A few years ago, I started hearing a 'voice' in my head saying "something bad is going to happen." This was during a difficult period in my life. It's happened a few times before in the past. This time, after about 6 months of it, I asked my neurologist to help me, thinking I might be going nuts (!) and she added Lamictal (100 mg daily) to my regular dose of Tegretol (300 mg daily). That worked, but it bothers me to be taking so many meds.
A few times, I've tried to reduce them, and ended up having more déjà vu - mine are wrenchingly bad, and I feel nauseated and sickly all day.
They scare me, because I "see" future events (some good, some very bad) from the point of view that I'm looking BACK at them, i.e. they've already happened in the future, and I'm farther in the future looking back at them. Whew that was hard to explain! When this scene flashes into my brain and I relive it, it is so hard to accept that my brain rejects it, or basically flips out and turns off - hah, that's what it seems like, anyway. It's as if you see something so alien that your mind refuses to believe it, so it turns off in order to prevent going insane... You can tell I've pondered on these episodes at length, trying to understand."

jacy

a reply to: jacygirl

Congratulations.

Now THAT is very informative AND logical.

Though I get De Je Vous all the time, they are merely a fleeting sensation of say, I enter a building that looks familiar but a lot of buildings look alike,so think nothing of it. When I get inside, I get an overwhelming but fleeting sense of having been in that exact building, with the exact people, conversations, etc.
Yet have never been in that building in my life, never saw those people, never had those conversations.
It is impossible to have already have experienced exactly the way it occurs, because I've never been there before at that exact time and place so my mind dismisses it as just an odd fleeting feeling.

Which is similar to OP's occurrence, only differences are, 1- I feel it only fleetingly without dread. 2- It is not something I don't know, I know what is happening, it just feels like it has happened exactly the same way at the same time which is impossible as I've said. 3- No visions or premonitory feelings.

I have actually been very screened, tested for Seizures of every kind known as I suffer from sleep paralysis which is a very strong dreadful feeling, differing from most in that my eyes are open, seeing the shadows of my dresser, etc as I always have a night light on, I can hear what is going on if anything, yet there are no dreams or nightmares with it to feel so much dread. It only lasts seconds but feels like an hour of being trapped in my body without the ability to do anything about it, can't even wiggle a finger or toe, or call for help, like dying in a horribly frightening way/

I THOUGHT this had only come on at 22 2 weeks after one of the worst MVA's I'd ever been in so far, my head nearly going through the windshield, majorly cracking it then 2 weeks later, giving birth to my youngest daughter, child. That night was the 1st Sleep Paralysis I'd recalled hence the tests of every known types of seizures known, then over again when my late parents, still alive, told me at age 28, that I'd had them from about 5 to 13.

No seizures.
Ruled out completely.
Causes? 1- Hyperthyroidism due to cancer though destroyed by radiation after some removal, still have thyroid stormed that are like the worst panic anxiety attacks you can imagine putting me in hospital with a heart rate of 180 and have been higher, bpm.
Crash carts ready as nothing else can be done.
2nd- Inherited Supreventricular Tachycardia..... Meaning I have an extra heart valve atop my heart, causing pretty much the same effects as the Thyroid Storming.


What can I say? Life can be hellish.
The testing makes it feel worse.
I was not once asked if I ever experienced De Je Vous throughout all testing twice.

Premonitions on the other hand, I experience like the OP only the visions seem longer, one was already occurring and I had to watch it without being able to even warn anyone.

I believe the OP is having premonitory visions that DO bring on such dreadful feeling and can last up to 3 weeks though we often do not find out we were actually having premonitions, though a lot of times we do find out by seeing it on news stations or in papers later.

ATS/ Am being relitive

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Hello, I needed to respond to you directly.

I am very aware of psychosomatic pain. I had a pain syndrome for years and studied under Dr. John Sarno, Scott Brady, Dr. Schecter. I have actually been a "Mind Body" consultant and have mentored many people out of pain in private consultation.

I understand what you're saying. The mind can trick us. Maybe mine tricked me. I'm unsure.

No. Your mind did not trick you in this case....... Don't be such a man, understand, embrace, for though it feels cursed, it is a gift. Not to be treated lightly or thrown away.
If you try, you will understand what I mean when you start having insomnia and nightmares because you have not dealt with this issue in your awakened state.

Trust me on this one thing if nothing else OP

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: BlackProject

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Glitch in the Matrix, well that's what people that watch/pay attention to these things call them. It's the most commonly understood term for it.

You were probably shifting between dimensions, or one was bumping up against yours. There can be a really creepy/uneasy sensation about "falling" or "sliding" into a nearby dimension. It can feel "evil" or "demonic" because it is so alien and foreign to anything else you've ever experienced.

Not to cause offense and not to say I completely deny what your putting across to the OP but, what. You give him the response that he is switching between dimensions......

well I would say the OP was otherwise experiencing some kind of hallucinogenic/hypnopompic awareness where things feel real but are just the mind becoming confused. Not that we are shifting between diemensions.

Considering you are what seems like an avid poster, seems a little random.

I just wanted to say, I have ZERO evidence that I have time traveled, slipped into some other dimension, had an ESP vision, or whatever "alternative' theory that has been floated.

A lot of people on this thread have assumed what happened. I have not. I just described what happened and that's it.

I'm not a Prophet or something, that I know of. I don't think I have special powers, and I am VERY skeptical of things like that to begin with.

You sound like your old self again.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

I just wanted to say, I have ZERO evidence that I have time traveled, slipped into some other dimension, had an ESP vision, or whatever "alternative' theory that has been floated.

A lot of people on this thread have assumed what happened. I have not. I just described what happened and that's it.

I'm not a Prophet or something, that I know of. I don't think I have special powers, and I am VERY skeptical of things like that to begin with.

I didn't mean to label your feeling.

Only YOU can do that IF you find out or when you find out if this has had some sort of premonitory elements or not.

I believe we are all relating to you and only attempting to assist you in finding some answers that will hopefully lessen or alleviate the ' Oddness,' that this has made you need to write down and share.

a reply to: StormyStars

I never said he was. But De Ja Vu is NOT just always a fleeting thing. What I experienced were images popping up in my head for a few minutes after an INTENSE de ja vu episode. 5 or so minutes isn't fleeting. Not your usual fleeting de ja vu that everyone gets.

Oh and it IS a symptom of seizures - you know this right? Not saying the OP is having them. Just saying, mine were more than likely psychogenic seizures. Caused by extreme anxiety/stress. NOT epilepsy.

And daughter? what?

a reply to: MrConspiracy

I never said he was. But De Ja Vu is NOT just always a fleeting thing. What I experienced were images popping up in my head for a few minutes after an INTENSE de ja vu episode. 5 or so minutes isn't fleeting. Not your usual fleeting de ja vu that everyone gets.

Oh and it IS a symptom of seizures - you know this right? Not saying the OP is having them. Just saying, mine were more than likely psychogenic seizures. Caused by extreme anxiety/stress. NOT epilepsy.

And daughter? what?

WHO said anything about Epilepsy? There Are Convulsions and Seizures That have absolutely nothing to do with Epilepsy.

Have you at least Googled, "Déjà vu ? " en.wikipedia.org... "

I DID say I wasn't sure who was who exactly on 3 posts. Apologies if you are not the one with the daughter suffering seizures.

It is spelled differently than what I studied but means the same.

In comparison," en.wikipedia.org... "
" en.wikipedia.org... "

It is a symptom of EPILEPTIC SEIZURES not always if at all associated with or to... NON Epileptic Seizures or convulsions.
Check this one out for example, " en.wikipedia.org... "


THIS is Germane AND Relative to OP's Post ATS MODS

last but not least, except all I am doing for now lol!

" en.wikipedia.org... " Premonitory.