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2016: Hillary will fight against Carter's, Jackson's and Kennedy's endorsement of Sanders.

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posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the LIght,
Dear Readers,

This will be the great moment of the Democratic Campaign in the first semester of 2016: When Jesse Jackson, Jimmy Carter and the Kennedy Clan openly decide for what candidate they will give their powerful endorsements, and with an extremely high confidence I can predict here that almost surely none of them will be for Hillary Clinton.

Why?

1) The Carter Center of Political studies in multiple occasions have opposed not only in America but around the world, taking part in multiple electoral processes in many nations, against anything that looks as perpetuation or creation of Politicla dinasties, it is absolutely contrary the political Thinking of fomer President Jimmy Carter, this is the reason for which in 2008 he decidely support Barack Obama against Clinton.

2) The Kennedy Clan didn't like the way Bill Clinton used almost abusively the image of President John F Kennedy to gain the support of them and of the people in general in his campaign of 1993, but as soon as he arrived to power he didn't give any participation to any member of that family in his administration.

3) Edward Kennedy endorsed in 2008 Barack Obama against Clinton precisely for his lack of confidence in that another Clinton in Power will represent genuinely the liberal side of Politics that he had represented in the Democratic party.

4) Caroline Kennedy also endorsed Obama since she felt the Clintons in their way to rule the country in multiple ocassions abandoned the JFK idealistic positions in matter of public finances, relationship in between public and private sectors, as well as in education and promotion of culture, to move pragmatically into the clearly conservative agenda.

5) Bill Clinton didn't attend the funeral of Jacquelne Kennedy in Washington DC , as it was his dutty since she was the widow of the most prominent Democratic President of the second half off the XX century. Moreover, her funeral was absolutely private and not the state one that she deserved for her heroic performance in the events of November 22nd 1963.

6) In contrast, When Pat Nixon, the former President's wife of 53 years, died in 1993 , Clinton dispatched the plane that had served as Nixon's Air Force One to fly her body home to California.

7) Moreover, Bill Clinton offered to his predecessor Richard Nixon the most impressive State funeral ever offered to any President since the JFKs in 1963. His eulogy to Nixon is not the one for a President that was removed from power under criminal charges, but the one a National Hero might receive.

www.presidency.ucsb.edu...

www.youtube.com...

8) Jimmy Carter publically declared at the end of 2016 that the American democracy has turned to be a competition among dinasties, and that such a situation has practically corrupted the original ideals in which this nation is inspired.

9) The reverend Jesse Jackson, the leader of the civil rights movement in this country will endorse , according with the leftist ideals he always has deffended along his political career, the first Socialist candidate in the XXI century : Bernie Sanders.

10) The RFK family still remember how Bill Clinton turned his back to them for their criticism of how he handled the American role in the Yugoslavia civil war, any similarity of the way Hillary handled the Ukrainian civil war is not a mere coincidence by the way.

11) In 1968 campaign Hillary Clinton, still single, was militant of youngsters organizations supporting the Campaign of Richard M NIxon, even she was part of special committee that worked to denounce a possble democratic fraud against him. Do you really think with such a past she will have the endorsement of the JFK or RFK descendents?

12) in 1974 Hillary Clinton, recently graduated as Lawyer, took part in the first House committee that analyzed watergate and that ease a lot of legal strategies for the NIxon Administration attorneys to prevent his involvement in the scandal.

Pls read:

content.time.com...

www.bloomberg.com...

www.nationalreview.com...

13) it was a member of the Kennedy Clan, Mr. Sargent Shriver, husband of Eunice Kennedy, who was the runner mate of the very first Socialist candidate in American History, Senator George Mcgovern, the rival of Richard Nixon in the 1972 election.

en.wikipedia.org...


HIllary Clinton then will be forced to fight fiercely against the old figures of the Democratic Party to deffend her right to compete, and believe me that is not going to be an easy task, considering that she will be also so busy deffending herself of multiple accusations in the Congress for her mistakes in her time in the State Secretary.

So if you think that all is already cooked for Clinton's nomination please don't bet strong amounts of money for it, you could be sadly disspointed and even may loose it.

if Clinton gain the nomination she must negotiate with Sanders many aspects of the Democratic political platform and it would not be a surprise if we see Sanders in the Ticket with her anyway.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness


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posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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Even IF Sanders were to be favoured to get the approval of past dynasties over Clinton at the end of the day it all comes down to money and power. Clinton I think will get the nomination, but she may not get the support her husband did when he ran.

In particular I haven't heard HC make any reference to Nixon, Kennedy, Carter, etc...as she has been snuggling up to Obama and the other lobbyists for support.

Nicely written thread



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 08:10 PM
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Frosty the Hag can't shake that stigma that she is owed the presidency. It is a big turn off to moderate Democrats. She has all of the appeal of 7 11 sushi.



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Enochstask


She has all of the appeal of 7 11 sushi.


And the charisma of a fist.

I doubt we'd see a Bernie/Hillary Ticket however in reference to the OP.

~Tenth



posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: Skywatcher2011

Well, there are other considerations that can also have a lot of weight against a fast track Clinton nomination.

The Democratic party has this year the Historic opportunity to remain in power for more than two terms continously, but they know by sure that the Republicans are not going to accept this happily, and it is extremely probable that if they loose in the election they will use all what they have gathered along about 4 years of intensive investigation on the Benghazi and the subsequent emails scandal to try to impeach her.

What is the likelihood that all the people that has funding available to sponsor a successful campaign will risk their interests in a candidate that seems to be destinated to be removed of power legally using all that turbulent past?

Many potential sponsors easily can see this, and they are perfectly able to estimate the risk, so chances are that they can join to Sanders or even to the Republican nominee before to put the country in way to a institutional crisis. No body likes in the business world unstability.


Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Jan, 8 2016 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

Well, don't let apparent ideologic positions to deceive your judgement, there is something more very important running in this campaign.

Senator Bernie Sanders, in spite of his Socialist camouflage, has all the lobby of the Jewish capital behind him, he is the best bet of the Jewish American community to achieve a dream of many decades, to arrive to the White house. Do you really think that Wallstreet is going to endorse Clinton with such temptation served in silver plate?

Israel knows the position of the Clintons with respect to Middle east, they still remember the failed Peace agreement that Bill Clinton forced Isaak Rabin to sign with Jasser Arafat. The current ruling Party in the Jewish State , the Likud, opposed all the time such a treaty.

I can assure you that they are right now with all their hope put in the ability of Bernie Sanders to do what two Jewish candiates of the past couldn't obtain: George Mcgovern and John McKain : the Oval office.


It is true that Chelsea Clinton converted to Jewish religion by marriage, but one thing is a President that has family ties with the Hebrews and another very different is one that was born Jewish.

Bernie Sanders opened about his Jewishness

If Clinton offers to Sanders the VP the Jewish lobby in Wallstreet will see that almost as if he gets the nomination, since anyway he could have strong chance to arrive to power through a possible impeachment.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

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posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 01:49 AM
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originally posted by: Enochstask
Frosty the Hag can't shake that stigma that she is owed the presidency. It is a big turn off to moderate Democrats. She has all of the appeal of 7 11 sushi.


That was wicked awesome! LMAO!



posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 01:55 AM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Enochstask


She has all of the appeal of 7 11 sushi.


And the charisma of a fist.

I doubt we'd see a Bernie/Hillary Ticket however in reference to the OP.

~Tenth


Anyone dumb enough to put her on the ticket as VP will end up dead.



posted on Jan, 9 2016 @ 01:58 AM
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originally posted by: HUMBLEONE

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Enochstask


She has all of the appeal of 7 11 sushi.


And the charisma of a fist.

I doubt we'd see a Bernie/Hillary Ticket however in reference to the OP.

~Tenth


Anyone dumb enough to put her on the ticket as VP will end up dead.


Hey OP, if your the Angel of Light how about doin me a solid, I need to loose a few pounds?



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: HUMBLEONE

Well,

The numbers can't lie, the polls right now show clearly that the only possible scenarios in which Hillary might win is if Donald Trump become nominated, or Ted Cruz , and although it is less probable she will have a also relatively easy election against Jeb Bush.

www.270towin.com...

www.270towin.com...

Against Carson it is clear that Clinton will suffer an embarrassing defeat, she even could loose for landslide.

www.270towin.com...

while Bernie Sanders will have a tied election, similar situation occur if the Republican Nominee is Cruz, that is Clinton can beat but Sanders No.

www.270towin.com...

Nevertheless, these results are not considering the possbility that Carly Fiorina become added at last time as a runner mate of any of the mentioned possible nominees, she could reduce dramatically the efficiency of Clinton to win.


Now, the most tied of all the possbile scenarios would be the one of a Presidential Election in between Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders,

www.270towin.com...

The greatedst abstention would be an election in between Jeb Bush and Bernie Sanders, that should leave in home the major part of the Americans on election day.

www.270towin.com...

However, Sanders could go ahead successfully if he faces Donald Trump in November.

www.270towin.com...

Trump only could be elected President if he faces in November a completely abnormal and caotic scenario in the Democratic side, like an internal division around the selection of the Nominee or if suddenly another figure emerges from nowhere to compete in last hour for the nomination, like for instance Al Gore or Elizabeth Warren, and that right now does not look even probable.

The only really probable event that can help a lot Trump to succeed is if the current erratic peformance of the stock markets become a great fall of the economy and if Clinton is forced to drop under the pressure of a political scandal, not because Sanders is not able to defeat him, but since depending of how huge that crisis can be it may weak the credibility of the Democratic party to continue ruling from the white house.

Trump is the Candidate that can win if everybody loses their faith in the recovery of the economy, if another recession suddenly appears. He like Hitler is the logical choice in a moment of collective madness.


Remember that both Benghazi attack and the emails deletion are issues that easily can splash over people that were very close to Clinton in her time on the State Secreatary, even President Barack Obama is not exempt to be involved in some way.

Another Terrorist Attack in American soil during 2016 will definitively help the Repubicans to win in November, whoever the nominee can be, but if the attacks on Europe continue or if something worst happen either in Europe, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Korea or in Israel it is likely that the American people prefer to maintain the Democratics in power.

The crisis in Ukraine if remains unsolved will give more chances to the Republicans than to the Demcratics to win. Putin and the Iranians would prefer to see a political change in the white house than to continue dealing with anothe Democratic administration.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: The angel of light

So it's a Jewish conspiracy to put Bernie in the white house?

The united states has had a pro Israeli President since..just about forever. I really doubt that Israel has any kind of real influence in elections in the US these days anyway.

They would also be far more likely to support a member of the GOP as they are more than often very pro Israeli.

~Tenth



posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

Again, Jewish vote Jewish, that is almost the 11th Commandment of the Law.

This is the only way to answer these two fundamental so difficult questions:

Why do you think Senator Lieberman, a former Democratic VP nominee that questioned the validity of the 2000 election, supported the Republican candidate John McKain in 2008 ???

www.nytimes.com...

How is possible that a man that fought fiercely against the communists in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia like President Lyndon Johnson endorsed the first Socialist Candidate of USA History Senator George McGovern in 1972?

www.quora.com...


In the past three Presidents that were not Jewish, but they had partial Jewish Ancestry , proved that this is a rule that works for both sides, to receive votes and financial support and to return the favor politically:

Franklyn D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson

Notice that none of them were Republicans, all of them were Democratics and were rulling the country in the most critical moments of History for the Jewish community: The war against Hitler, the creation of Israel and the six days war.

Benjamin Netanyahu, The Israelian Prime Minister, openly has qualified as a disaster the policies that Hillary Clinton carried out as a State Secretary supporting revolutions in North Africa that practcally have isolated Israel completely in the region. They know perfectly that ISIS is decided to erase them from the Map, and now is moving freely not only in Syria or Iraq but also in Lybia, Tunisia and even Egypt.

Sanders looks to be in the opposite pole of the poltical spectrum of Netanyahu, but he is indeed extremely close ideologically to Shimon Peres, who has all the chances to determine who is going to be the next Israelian Prime minister.


Senator John McKain about Bernie Sanders: “He’s an honest man and his word is good,” McCain said, “Once we reached an agreement, that agreement stuck.”


mediaequalizer.com...


"Bernie Sanders, Not Hillary Clinton, Has ‘Record of Advocacy’ for Vets" John McKain


observer.com...

Finally, a white supremacist Candidate as it is Donald Trump will push by sure masively the Jewish community to vote and support the Democratic ticket, either if Sanders is in the first or second place of it.

Dwight Eisenhower was not a Pro-israel President, as a matter of fact he supported Egypt in their war against Britain and France ( in alliance with Israel). President Jimmy Carter critized harshly the policy of expansion of the Jewish settlements in the west bank, he even denounced what he called an Apartheid against Palestinians.

Peace Not Apartheid

Both Presidents, Eisenhower and Carter found the way to force Israel to return to Egypt terrotories they won in war in Sinai.

www.ihr.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

If you ask in the Jerusalem to the Israelian parliament if they believe Obama is ProIsrael almost everybody will curse him and laugh at you.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
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