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However one takes the historicity of the final days of "Jesus" in the Greek Gospels, including 'Lukes' sword purchasing sayings in 'Luke' 22:36 it does seem that R. Yehoshua bar Yosef ("Jesus") was looking for some kind of apocalyptic Miracle on the hill in accordance with the prophecies of the divine protection of the Messiah.
What is even more compelling here is the physical position of Jesus and the (11 remaining) disciples moving across the Kidron Valley and climbing one of the hills on the Mount of Olives in the light of Zechariah 14:3-4 - note the warrior/zealot language...and apocalyptic hope for the Messiah of Yisro'el:
And one of them [Simon Peter] drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his [right] ear.
Such zealot activity is ususally swept under the carpet by priests and ministers alike since it undermines their portrayal of 'Jesus' as a 'pacifist' .
originally posted by: Sigismundus
a reply to: Punisher75
I'm not sure what you mean by 'somewhat pacifist nature' - generally one is a pacifist or one is not. There's an old saying that if something lives in the sea, looks like a fish, swims like a fish and gets caught on a hook, that something is...well, a fish.
'Jesus' armed his disciples with swords and caused a riot in the Temple and was arrested and executed as an armed seditionist by Rome crucified betwen two seditioinists during 'The Insurrection' (if you believe Mark 15:7).
He lived in a time and place that was a hotbed of political unrest, he certainly had the right background as a Galilean to be influenced by and to recruit armed insurrectionists
Certainly, he was the leader of a group of armed Galileans, several with Zealot monikers ('Sons of Thunder', 'The Rock' and 'Simon the Zealot' etc.)
The question immediately arises: Would the Romans have sent this many soldiers to arrest a benign, peace-loving preacher telling harmless little parables? I think not. Jesus was a big fish with a large entourage of loyal fanatic supporters and he needed to be decisively crushed.
I would encourage everyone on this thread to read around the subject a little e.g. on the socio-political climate of first century Galilee. For example there were several major armed insurrections against the Romans in 4BC, 6CE (and in 36 CE according to Mark 15:7) and of course the 1st Failed Jewish War against Rome 66-70CE. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain stories and pictures of a revenge filled fantasy war in which the Jews were victorious against the Romans ('kittim') and the War Scroll in particular outlines zealotry - all in the context of a Holy War against Roman Occupation.
When the person 'turns the other cheek' to the offender, it would force him to slap him with the palm across the face - in other words, he is saying in effect 'be defiant' : remember who you are (i.e. the Elect of the Lost Sheep of the House of Yisro'el) don't let the filthy rotten gentiles disrespect you with a back handed slap to the head.'
Matthew 5:44-46 King James Version (KJV)
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Luke 6:35-36 King James Version (KJV)
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.